Movement vs. Exercise: Rethinking Fitness with Katy Bowman & Diana Hill
On this episode of the “NASM-CPT Podcast,” host, and NASM Master Instructor, Rick Richey, welcomes featured guests, renowned authors, Katy Bowman and Diana Hill, to discuss their new book, "I Know I Should Exercise, But..." This insightful conversation dives deep into the challenges people face when it comes to building a sustainable movement practice. Rather than focusing solely on exercise routines, Rick, Katy, and Diana explore a broader and more inclusive approach to physical activity, emphasizing the power of movement throughout daily life.
Listeners will discover actionable strategies to overcome common roadblocks, from lack of time and motivation to body image issues and environmental barriers. Katy, a biomechanist, brings fascinating expertise on how everyday movement shapes our health, while Diana, a leading clinical psychologist, shares tools from acceptance and commitment training (ACT) to build psychological flexibility and self-compassion.
This episode is a must-listen for fitness professionals, personal trainers, and anyone struggling with the "I know I should exercise, but..." mindset. Rick and his guests unveil practical tips for integrating movement into daily routines, reframing exercise as a self-care practice, and connecting movement with individual values to create lasting behavior change.
Whether you’re an avid exerciser or just beginning your wellness journey, this episode will help you shift your perspective and empower you to move more—without the pressure of grinding gym routines.
Guest Bios:
Katy Bowman, M.S.
Founder of the movement education company Nutritious Movement
Host of the “Move Your DNA” podcast
Author of eleven books, which have sold more than 350,000 copies in English and been translated into 17 other languages.
Her work has been featured by media including The New York Times, The Guardian, NPR, CBC Radio, Seattle Times, Good Housekeeping, Outside, The Joe Rogan Experience, and The TODAY Show.
She has worked with companies including Patagonia, Nike, and Google as well as a range of non-profits and other organizations
Diana Hill, PhD.
Clinical psychologist and a leading expert in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT)
Author of The Self-Compassion Daily Journal, ACT Daily Journal, and the upcoming book Wise Effort,
Host of the “Wise Effort” podcast
She contributes regularly to Insight Timer, Mindful.org, and Psychology Today.
Her work has also been featured by media including NPR, The Wall Street Journal, Woman’s Day, and Real Simple
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