Metabolic Mind

Bret Scher
Metabolic Mind
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  • Metabolic Mind

    New Study from 25-Year Eating Disorder Expert

    2026/06/05 | 35 mins.
    Anorexia nervosa has one of the highest mortality rates of any psychiatric illness, yet effective biological treatments remain limited. For many people living with the condition, even after successful weight normalization, persistent psychological symptoms, including obsessive thoughts about food, shape, and weight, continue to drive relapse.
    In this conversation, Dr. Bret Scher sits down with Dr. Guido Frank, Professor of Psychiatry at UC San Diego with over 25 years of experience in eating disorder treatment, to discuss results from the first-ever clinical trial of ketogenic therapy in anorexia nervosa.
    This 14-week supervised feasibility trial enrolled 22 individuals with weight-normalized anorexia nervosa. Among the 18 study completers:
    ✅ 72% scored in the recovered range on eating disorder assessments, no longer meeting the criteria for an anorexia nervosa diagnosis
    ✅ 100% of study completers saw improvements in depression symptoms, with 72% scoring within the normal range.
    ✅ Participants did not experience significant weight change throughout the study
    In this conversation, Dr. Frank also discusses:
    What led a self-described skeptic to investigate ketogenic therapy for anorexia nervosa
    How the study was structured, who it enrolled, and what the weekly supervision looked like
    What participants experienced as symptoms improved, including reports of mental clarity and relief
    How weight remained stable throughout the ketogenic intervention
    The pushback from colleagues and how to engage with the skepticism
    What comes next, including ongoing brain imaging research and plans for a randomized controlled trial
    Early observations in bulimia nervosa and what they may suggest about metabolic factors in eating disorders

    This trial demonstrated that ketogenic therapy is well tolerated by this population. Larger, controlled studies are needed to better evaluate efficacy.
    This intervention was conducted under close supervision by a licensed eating disorder specialist, with weekly check-ins, ketone monitoring, and regular psychiatric assessments. Anyone interested in exploring this approach should do so under close medical supervision and in partnership with their care team. If you or someone you care for is living with anorexia nervosa, please speak with your healthcare provider before making any changes.
    👉 Want to learn more about this study? Visit the Study Page on our website: https://www.metabolicmind.org/trials/featured-post/ketogenic-therapy-feasibility-trial-in-anorexia-nervosa-shows-promise-in-weight-normalized-adults/

    Expert Featured:
    Dr. Guido Frank
    linkedin.com/in/guido-k-w-frank-b7b42172
    https://profiles.ucsd.edu/guido.frank

    Resources Mentioned:
    Study
    DOI Link: https://doi.org/10.1038/s43856-026-01644-0

    Free CME Clinician Trainings:
    Are you a clinician who would like to learn more about the science behind these therapies and how to implement them in practice? Earn CME with our growing library of courses from some of the top experts in the field including Dr. Chris Palmer, Dr. Georgia Ede, Dr. Matthew Bernstein, Dr. Mariela Glandt, Dr. Deanna Kelly, Dr. Julie Milder, Dr. Zoltan Sarnyai, and Dr. Bret Scher with more coming soon.
    Our courses have been made FREE by grants from Baszucki Group, so we can spread these powerful therapies as widely as possible. Earn CME/CNE credits: https://www.metabolicmind.org/for-clinicians/trainings-courses/?utm_medium=organic-social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=cme-yt

    Follow our channel for more information and education from Bret Scher, MD, FACC, including interviews with leading experts in Metabolic Psychiatry.
    Learn more about metabolic psychiatry and find helpful resources at https://metabolicmind.org/

    About us:
    Metabolic Mind is a non-profit initiative of Baszucki Group working to transform the study and treatment of mental disorders by exploring the connection between metabolism and brain health. We leverage the science of metabolic psychiatry and personal stories to offer education, community, and hope to people struggling with mental health challenges and those who care for them.
    Our channel is for informational purposes only. We are not providing individual or group medical or healthcare advice nor establishing a provider-patient relationship. Many of the interventions we discuss can have dramatic or potentially dangerous effects if done without proper supervision. Consult your healthcare provider before changing your lifestyle or medications.
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    First Keto Trial for Anorexia Nervosa: 72% Showed Recovery

    2026/06/03 | 3 mins.
    A new study demonstrates that ketogenic therapy could be an option for individuals living with weight-normalized anorexia nervosa.
    One of the primary goals of anorexia nervosa treatment is restoring weight, and while this is an important milestone, many individuals continue to experience psychological symptoms.
    Dr. Guido Frank, Professor of Psychiatry at UC San Diego, has spent more than 25 years researching and treating eating disorders. For much of his career, the lack of effective biological treatments for anorexia nervosa has been one of his greatest frustrations.
    That changed when he began investigating ketogenic therapy.
    In this video, Dr. Frank shares results from the first-ever clinical trial of ketogenic therapy in anorexia nervosa, published in Communications Medicine.
    This 14-week outpatient feasibility trial enrolled adults living with weight-normalized anorexia nervosa who, despite weight restoration, continued to struggle with persistent eating disorder symptoms.
    Of the 22 individuals enrolled in the study, 82% completed the trial. Among those who completed, 40% experienced mild early side effects, all of which resolved by study end, providing early evidence that ketogenic therapy may be a well-tolerated option in this weight-normalized population.
    Among the study completers:
    ✅ 72% no longer met the criteria for an anorexia nervosa diagnosis
    ✅ All showed improvement in depression scores, with 72% reaching the normal range
    ✅ Participants also showed improvements in self-esteem, anxiety, and clinical impairment
    One of the most common concerns about keto in this population is whether it will cause weight loss.
    For this reason, weight was closely monitored and participants did not experience significant weight change during the study. These findings suggest that under clinical supervision, ketogenic therapy can be implemented in a way that supports weight maintenance, while also delivering far-reaching effects on brain function and psychiatric symptoms.
    These results are encouraging early evidence of feasibility, but larger, controlled studies are needed to further evaluate efficacy.
    The outcomes should not be generalized to severely underweight patients, who were not included in this trial. Dr. Frank's team is now actively studying whether ketogenic therapy can be applied at lower weights.
    This intervention was conducted under close supervision by a licensed eating disorder specialist, with weekly check-ins, ketone monitoring, and regular psychiatric assessments. Anyone interested in exploring this approach should only do so under close medical supervision and in partnership with their care team. If you or someone you care for is living with anorexia nervosa, please speak with your healthcare provider before making any changes.
    👉 Learn more about this study: https://www.metabolicmind.org/trials/featured-post/ketogenic-therapy-feasibility-trial-in-anorexia-nervosa-shows-promise-in-weight-normalized-adults/

    Expert Featured:
    Dr. Guido Frank
    https://x.com/GuidoFrank?s=20
    linkedin.com/in/guido-k-w-frank-b7b42172
    https://profiles.ucsd.edu/guido.frank

    Resources Mentioned:
    Study:
    DOI Link: https://doi.org/10.1038/s43856-026-01644-0

    UC San Diego Website:
    https://clinicaltrials.ucsd.edu/ketogenic-diet

    Follow our channel for more information and education from Bret Scher, MD, FACC, including interviews with leading experts in Metabolic Psychiatry.
    Learn more about metabolic psychiatry and find helpful resources at https://metabolicmind.org/

    About us:
    Metabolic Mind is a non-profit initiative of Baszucki Group working to transform the study and treatment of mental disorders by exploring the connection between metabolism and brain health. We leverage the science of metabolic psychiatry and personal stories to offer education, community, and hope to people struggling with mental health challenges and those who care for them.
    Our channel is for informational purposes only. We are not providing individual or group medical or healthcare advice nor establishing a provider-patient relationship. Many of the interventions we discuss can have dramatic or potentially dangerous effects if done without proper supervision. Consult your healthcare provider before changing your lifestyle or medications.
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    BITESIZE: New Study: Why Did This Drug Lower Cholesterol But Not Heart Plaque?

    2026/06/01 | 3 mins.
    Lower triglycerides, lower remnant cholesterol, lower ApoB. Zero change in coronary artery plaque. A new clinical trial is forcing a bigger conversation about how we treat cardiovascular disease.
    The drug was Olezarsen, an APOC3 inhibitor. The blood work looked impressive. The heart scans did not. So why would lowering well-established cardiovascular risk factors fail to move the needle on plaque? Dr. Bret Scher argues there's a critical difference between what we want to fix and how we go about fixing it. Lowering a number with a drug is not the same as addressing the underlying metabolic dysfunction that caused that number to be high in the first place.
    In this video, you'll learn:
    What the Olezarsen trial actually showed and why the results matter
    Why elevated triglycerides often signal deeper metabolic dysfunction and insulin resistance
    How this same drug-first thinking plays out in type 2 diabetes, hypertension, and weight management
    Why narrowing our focus to "fix the number" can keep us from healing the whole system
    How metabolic medicine reframes the conversation around root causes

    This isn't an argument against medication. Responsible drug use has an important place in patient care. But the best outcomes come when we ask why a number is abnormal in the first place and what combination of lifestyle changes and targeted treatments will actually address it.
    👉 Want to stay up to date with the latest research on metabolic health and metabolic psychiatry? Sign up for our newsletter to stay informed:
    metabolicmind.org/about-us/newsletter/
    🔎 Have questions about how to apply metabolic therapies effectively? Submit them at metabolicmind.org/questions to be featured in a future Metabolic Mailbag episode.
    #MetabolicMind #KetogenicTherapy #CardiovascularDisease

    Expert Featured:
    Dr. Bret Scher
    Baszucki Group Medical Director
    https://x.com/bschermd

    Resources Mentioned:
    Effect of APOC3 Inhibition With Olezarsen on Coronary Atherosclerosis: Essence-TIMI 73b Imaging Study
    https://doi.org/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.126.080012

    Free CME Clinician Trainings:
    Are you a clinician who would like to learn more about the science behind these therapies and how to implement them in practice? Earn CME with our growing library of courses from some of the top experts in the field including Dr. Chris Palmer, Dr. Georgia Ede, Dr. Matthew Bernstein, Dr. Mariela Glandt, Dr. Deanna Kelly, Dr. Julie Milder, Dr. Zoltan Sarnyai, and Dr. Bret Scher with more coming soon.
    Our courses have been made FREE by grants from Baszucki Group, so we can spread these powerful therapies as widely as possible. Earn CME/CNE credits: https://www.metabolicmind.org/for-clinicians/trainings-courses/?utm_medium=organic-social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=cme-yt

    Follow our channel for more information and education from Bret Scher, MD, FACC, including interviews with leading experts in Metabolic Psychiatry.
    Learn more about metabolic psychiatry and find helpful resources at https://metabolicmind.org/

    About us:
    Metabolic Mind is a non-profit initiative of Baszucki Group working to transform the study and treatment of mental disorders by exploring the connection between metabolism and brain health. We leverage the science of metabolic psychiatry and personal stories to offer education, community, and hope to people struggling with mental health challenges and those who care for them.
    Our channel is for informational purposes only. We are not providing individual or group medical or healthcare advice nor establishing a provider-patient relationship. Many of the interventions we discuss can have dramatic or potentially dangerous effects if done without proper supervision. Consult your healthcare provider before changing your lifestyle or medications.
  • Metabolic Mind

    Keto as an Adjunct to CBTp? Nicole Laurent Explains

    2026/05/29 | 22 mins.
    Could ketogenic therapy help people with schizophrenia spectrum disorders engage more successfully with CBT? A new conceptual framework explores this powerful adjunctive approach.
    CBTp is considered a gold-standard treatment for schizophrenia spectrum disorders, but many patients struggle to initiate, participate in, and complete it. Cognitive deficits, sleep disturbances, low distress tolerance, and ongoing psychotic symptoms can all stand in the way. In this conversation, Dr. Bret Scher sits down with licensed clinical social worker Nicole Laurent to discuss her recently published paper in Frontiers in Psychology, exploring how ketogenic metabolic therapy could help bridge that gap.
    In this conversation, you'll learn:
    Why CBTp is so cognitively demanding and where patients tend to struggle
    How ketogenic therapy may reduce key barriers like sleep issues, distress tolerance, and cognitive impairment
    What a conceptual analysis paper is and why it matters for shaping future research
    How clinicians and researchers can begin integrating these ideas into practice
    Whether this framework could extend to CBT for depression, OCD, and anxiety

    This discussion opens the door to thinking about ketogenic therapy not only as a direct treatment for psychiatric symptoms, but as a powerful adjunctive tool that could help patients engage more fully with the rest of their care.
    👉 Research focused on ketogenic therapy and schizophrenia continues to grow, check out the latest on our Schizophrenia Topic Page: metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/schizophrenia/
    🔎 Have questions about how to apply metabolic therapies effectively? Submit them at metabolicmind.org/questions to be featured in a future Metabolic Mailbag episode.
    #KetogenicTherapy #MetabolicMind #Schizophrenia

    Expert Featured:
    Nicole Laurent, LMHC
    https://www.instagram.com/mentalhealthketo/
    https://mentalhealthketo.com/nicole-laurent-lmhc-about-me/
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/nlaurent/

    Experts mentioned:
    Dr. Guido Frank
    https://www.instagram.com/ucsdfranklab/
    linkedin.com/in/guido-k-w-frank-b7b42172
    https://profiles.ucsd.edu/guido.frank

    Dr. Albert Danan
    Shebani Sethi, MD, ABOM
    https://www.metabolicmind.org/team/shebani-sethi-md-abom/
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/drsethi/?_l=en_US
    https://x.com/ShebaniMD

    Resources Mentioned:
    https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2026.1775511/full

    https://youtu.be/vsk5kl5sa7M

    Free CME Clinician Trainings:
    Are you a clinician who would like to learn more about the science behind these therapies and how to implement them in practice? Earn CME with our growing library of courses from some of the top experts in the field including Dr. Chris Palmer, Dr. Georgia Ede, Dr. Matthew Bernstein, Dr. Mariela Glandt, Dr. Deanna Kelly, Dr. Julie Milder, Dr. Zoltan Sarnyai, and Dr. Bret Scher with more coming soon.
    Our courses have been made FREE by grants from Baszucki Group, so we can spread these powerful therapies as widely as possible. Earn CME/CNE credits: https://www.metabolicmind.org/for-clinicians/trainings-courses/?utm_medium=organic-social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=cme-yt

    Follow our channel for more information and education from Bret Scher, MD, FACC, including interviews with leading experts in Metabolic Psychiatry.
    Learn more about metabolic psychiatry and find helpful resources at https://metabolicmind.org/

    About us:
    Metabolic Mind is a non-profit initiative of Baszucki Group working to transform the study and treatment of mental disorders by exploring the connection between metabolism and brain health. We leverage the science of metabolic psychiatry and personal stories to offer education, community, and hope to people struggling with mental health challenges and those who care for them.
    Our channel is for informational purposes only. We are not providing individual or group medical or healthcare advice nor establishing a provider-patient relationship. Many of the interventions we discuss can have dramatic or potentially dangerous effects if done without proper supervision. Consult your healthcare provider before changing your lifestyle or medications.
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    Q&A: Keto for PCOS, Cravings, & Women’s Health with Temple Stewart

    2026/05/27 | 34 mins.
    How many carbs should you eat on a ketogenic diet? Do ketone levels matter? And why do cravings hit so hard? Is Dairy recommended?
    In this Metabolic Mailbag episode, registered dietitian and medical student Temple Stewart breaks down some of the most common challenges people face when starting and maintaining a ketogenic diet, especially for PCOS (PMOS), metabolic health, and long-term sustainability.
    Temple brings a unique perspective to this conversation, combining clinical nutrition experience with current medical training and a deep focus on women’s metabolic health. Her approach is practical, individualized, and grounded in helping people build strategies they can realistically sustain over the long term.
    In this episode, we cover:
    Ketogenic therapy and the menstrual cycle
    Cravings and the “sugar dragon”
    PCOS and therapeutic ketone levels
    Dairy, protein, and hunger
    Vegetarian keto challenges
    CGMs and ketone testing
    How to personalize a ketogenic approach long term

    One of the biggest takeaways: successful ketogenic therapy is about understanding your own metabolism, building sustainable habits, and learning which strategies help you feel your best over time.
    🔎 Have questions about how to apply metabolic therapies effectively? Submit them at metabolicmind.org/questions to be featured in a future Metabolic Mailbag episode.
    #MetabolicMind #KetogenicTherapy #PCOS #FoodAsMedicine

    Expert Featured:
    Temple Stewart
    https://www.instagram.com/the.ketogenic.nutritionist/
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/templehughs

    Free CME Clinician Trainings:
    Are you a clinician who would like to learn more about the science behind these therapies and how to implement them in practice? Earn CME with our growing library of courses from some of the top experts in the field including Dr. Chris Palmer, Dr. Georgia Ede, Dr. Matthew Bernstein, Dr. Mariela Glandt, Dr. Deanna Kelly, Dr. Julie Milder, Dr. Zoltan Sarnyai, and Dr. Bret Scher with more coming soon.
    Our courses have been made FREE by grants from Baszucki Group, so we can spread these powerful therapies as widely as possible. Earn CME/CNE credits: https://www.metabolicmind.org/for-clinicians/trainings-courses/?utm_medium=organic-social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=cme-yt

    Follow our channel for more information and education from Bret Scher, MD, FACC, including interviews with leading experts in Metabolic Psychiatry.
    Learn more about metabolic psychiatry and find helpful resources at https://metabolicmind.org/

    About us:
    Metabolic Mind is a non-profit initiative of Baszucki Group working to transform the study and treatment of mental disorders by exploring the connection between metabolism and brain health. We leverage the science of metabolic psychiatry and personal stories to offer education, community, and hope to people struggling with mental health challenges and those who care for them.
    Our channel is for informational purposes only. We are not providing individual or group medical or healthcare advice nor establishing a provider-patient relationship. Many of the interventions we discuss can have dramatic or potentially dangerous effects if done without proper supervision. Consult your healthcare provider before changing your lifestyle or medications.
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Metabolic Mind is working to transform the study and treatment of mental disorders by exploring the connection between metabolism and brain health. Metabolic interventions like ketogenic therapy are being used to treat serious mental illnesses like Bipolar Disorder, Schizophrenia, and Major Depressive Disorder. We explore topics that can help you understand how Metabolic Psychiatry might help you or a loved one treat mental disorders Watch our videos at https://www.youtube.com/@metabolicmind Our channel is for information only. Consult your physician before changing your lifestyle or medications.
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