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Evidence Based Birth®

Rebecca Dekker, PhD, RN
Evidence Based Birth®
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  • EBB 380a - Combatiendo el trauma del parto en México con Sofía Herrera, psicóloga e instructora de EBB
    Tras lo que debería haber sido un parto feliz, Sofía Herrera, (educadora perinatal, instructora de EBB, instructora de Hipnoparto y psicóloga social y clínica) pasó casi 20 años creyendo que padecía depresión posparto, hasta que sus estudios revelaron la verdad: había sufrido un trauma obstétrico. Esta revelación se convirtió en el motor de su trabajo de apoyo a las mujeres que dan a luz y de su lucha contra la violencia obstétrica generalizada y la desinformación arraigada en el sistema de atención a la maternidad en México.   Sofía comparte lo que realmente significa el trauma, cómo las intervenciones sin consentimiento y la atención paternalista influyen en la experiencia del parto, y por qué tantas familias creen erróneamente que "fracasaron" cuando, en realidad, fue el sistema el que les falló. También describe los desafíos del parto en México —desde las altísimas tasas de cesáreas hasta las episiotomías de rutina— y cómo la educación basada en la evidencia empodera a las familias para encontrar una atención más segura y respetuosa.   (02:26) El recorrido de 20 años de Sofía viviendo con un trauma no tratado (06:45) Patrones que observó como educadora de parto (10:20) Por qué el trauma psicosocial en el parto está poco investigado y mal comprendido (12:18) La propia experiencia de parto de Sofía (18:23) Las altísimas tasas de cesáreas en México (19:48) Cómo se manifiesta el paternalismo culturalmente y en las relaciones clínicas (21:08) Episiotomías de rutina y "protocolos" obsoletos que aún se enseñan (22:24) ¿Puede la educación sobre el parto prevenir el trauma? Cómo las familias informadas cambian el sistema (28:35) Diferencias entre hospitales privados y públicos en México (32:38) Cómo Sofía utiliza los recursos de EBB para apoyar y empoderar a las familias (35:19) El mejor consejo de Sofía para las familias que temen la violencia obstétrica o un trato irrespetuoso   Recursos Conecta con Sofía: @sukhamoms Obtén folletos de EBB en español: evidencebasedbirth.com/translations/   Para obtener más información sobre Evidence Based Birth® y un curso intensivo sobre atención basada en la evidencia, visite www.ebbirth.com. ¡Síganos en Instagram y YouTube! ¿Listo para aprender más? Descargue la Guía de escucha del podcast de EBB o lea el libro de la Dra. Dekker, "Babies Are Not Pizzas: They're Born, Not Delivered!". Si desea participar en EBB, únase a nuestra membresía profesional (hay opciones de becas disponibles) e inscríbase en la lista de espera para nuestro programa de instructores de EBB. Encuentre un instructor de EBB aquí y haga clic aquí para obtener más información sobre las clases de preparación para el parto de EBB.
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  • EBB 380b - Combating Birth Trauma in Mexico with Sofía Herrera, Psychologist and EBB Instructor
    After what should have been a joyful birth, Sofía Herrera (childbirth educator, EBB Instructor, Hypnobirthing instructor, and social & clinical psychologist) spent nearly 20 years believing she had postpartum depression, until her investigation revealed the truth: she had experienced birth trauma. That realization became the catalyst for her work supporting birthing families and confronting the widespread obstetric violence and misinformation embedded in Mexico's maternity care system.   Sofía shares what trauma really means, how unconsented interventions and paternalistic care shape birthing experiences, and why so many families mistakenly believe they "failed" when in reality, the system failed them. She also describes the challenges of childbirth in Mexico—from extremely high Cesarean rates to routine episiotomies—and how evidence-based education empowers families to find safer, more respectful care.   (02:26) Sofía's 20-year journey living with untreated trauma (06:45) Patterns she saw as a childbirth educator (10:20) Why psychosocial trauma in birth is under-researched and misunderstood (12:18) Sofía's own birth experience (18:23) Mexico's extremely high Cesarean rates (19:48) How paternalism shows up culturally and inside clinical relationships (21:08) Routine episiotomies and outdated "protocols" still being taught (22:24) Can childbirth education prevent trauma? How informed families change the system (28:35) Differences between private vs. public hospitals in Mexico (32:38) How Sofía uses EBB resources to support and empower families (35:19) Sofía's top advice for families fearing obstetric violence or disrespectful care   Resources Connect with Sofía: @sukhamoms Get EBB Handouts in Spanish: evidencebasedbirth.com/translations/   For more information about Evidence Based Birth® and a crash course on evidence based care, visit www.ebbirth.com. Follow us on Instagram and YouTube! Ready to learn more? Grab an EBB Podcast Listening Guide or read Dr. Dekker's book, "Babies Are Not Pizzas: They're Born, Not Delivered!" If you want to get involved at EBB, join our Professional membership (scholarship options available) and get on the wait list for our EBB Instructor program. Find an EBB Instructor here, and click here to learn more about the EBB Childbirth Class.
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  • REPLAY: EBB 221 - Evidence on Birthing Positions and Tried-and-True Midwifery Practices for Protecting the Perineum
    In this episode, Dr. Rebecca Dekker explores the research on birthing positions and tried-and-true midwifery practices for protecting the perineum during childbirth. She explains why the flat-on-your-back position we often see on television isn't ideal and walks through the key differences between upright, sacrum-flexible positions, and common hospital practices like lithotomy and routine episiotomies.   Dr. Dekker reviews data from global research as well as real-world wisdom from midwives, including the extraordinary outcomes of hands-off, undisturbed birth approaches in the Philippines. She uncovers how hospital system pressures, caregiver convenience, and even obstetric violence drive the overwhelming use of recumbent positions and invasive interventions while sidelining evidence-based, patient-centered care. You'll hear firsthand strategies for minimizing severe tears, promoting intact perineums, and advocating for birth plans that prioritize the autonomy and comfort of birthing people.   Content Warning: Discussion of tears of the vagina, severe tears from the vagina to the rectum, obstetric violence related to episiotomies, and being forced giving birth on your back.   Resources For a full list of resources, visit: ebbirth.com/221 Watch the video version here on our YouTube channel which includes study breakdowns and PowerPoint slides. Protecting the Perineum Series: EBB 206 - Evidence on Perineal Tears and the Importance of Avoiding Episiotomy with EBB Founder, Dr. Rebecca Dekker EBB 210 - Evidence on Warm Compresses and Hands-on vs. Hands-off for Protecting the Perineum EBB 216 - The Evidence on Prenatal Perineal Massage for Preventing Tears in Childbirth with Dr. Rebecca Dekker EBB 218 - The Evidence on Perineal Massage during Labor with Dr. Rebecca Dekker   For more information about Evidence Based Birth® and a crash course on evidence based care, visit www.ebbirth.com. Follow us on Instagram and YouTube! Ready to learn more? Grab an EBB Podcast Listening Guide or read Dr. Dekker's book, "Babies Are Not Pizzas: They're Born, Not Delivered!" If you want to get involved at EBB, join our Professional membership (scholarship options available) and get on the wait list for our EBB Instructor program. Find an EBB Instructor here, and click here to learn more about the EBB Childbirth Class.
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  • EBB 379 - A Challenging Birth Story with GBS, Prolonged PROM, Pitocin, and an Epidural, with EBB Childbirth Class Graduate Erica Wright and EBB Instructor Tara Thompson
    After more than 80 hours of labor, Erica Wright found herself exhausted, emotional, and determined to keep trusting her body. With the steady support of her doulas (including EBB Instructor Tara Thompson), she discovered that birth doesn't have to go "according to plan" to be powerful.   In this episode, Dr. Rebecca Dekker talks with Erica and Tara about how preparation, advocacy, and teamwork carried them through a marathon labor filled with unexpected turns. From switching hospitals late in pregnancy to finding strength through challenges, their story exemplifies flexibility, informed choice, and the power of doula support.   (05:55) Tara's updates from Atlanta and her path to becoming an IBCLC (09:17) Erica's lightbulb moments from the EBB Childbirth Class (11:22) Switching hospitals at 35 weeks and advocating for the right fit (16:18) Labor begins: prodromal labor, GBS, and waiting for spontaneous birth (24:30) Hospital admission, challenges with staff, and early interventions (32:17) The Pitocin battle and advocating for movement and monitoring choices (35:40) Finding a supportive nurse and regaining freedom during labor (39:53) Tara's night shift: rest, affirmations, and encouragement (44:20) Deciding on the epidural and reframing "failure" as flexibility (49:18) The final stage: rest, relief, and meeting baby (55:12) Postpartum recovery and breastfeeding challenges (01:00:25) Tara's advice for navigating long labors (01:02:43) Erica's reflections on flexibility, intuition, and informed choice   Resources Get in touch with Tara: tarasbirthservices.com | @taras.birthservices Connect with Tara's teammate, Brittany: @wellpreparednest Listen to EBB 146 - How Doula and EBB Instructor Tara Thompson Supports Families in Atlanta Listen to EBB 357 – Making Decisions about Elective Induction of Labor with Dr. Ann Peralta & Kari Radoff, CNM, from Partner to Decide The Evidence on: GBS (Group B Strep): evidencebasedbirth.com/groupbstrep/ The Evidence on: Pitocin During the Third Stage of Labor: evidencebasedbirth.com/evidence-on-pitocin-during-the-third-stage-of-labor/ Epidural during Labor for Pain Management: evidencebasedbirth.com/epidural-during-labor-pain-management/ Learn more about the Evidence Based Birth Childbirth Class: evidencebasedbirth.com/childbirthclass   For more information about Evidence Based Birth® and a crash course on evidence based care, visit www.ebbirth.com. Follow us on Instagram and YouTube! Ready to learn more? Grab an EBB Podcast Listening Guide or read Dr. Dekker's book, "Babies Are Not Pizzas: They're Born, Not Delivered!" If you want to get involved at EBB, join our Professional membership (scholarship options available) and get on the wait list for our EBB Instructor program. Find an EBB Instructor here, and click here to learn more about the EBB Childbirth Class.
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  • EBB 378 - Embracing the Dual Calling of Doula Work + Midwifery with Chanté Perryman and Elder Charlotte Shilo-Goudeau
    Across generations, birth workers have held space for families with skill, love, and deep purpose. In this episode, Dr. Rebecca Dekker talks with Elder Midwife Charlotte Shilo-Goudeau, a licensed Certified Professional Midwife from Louisiana, and Chanté Perryman, Director of Programs at Evidence Based Birth®, certified doula, and student midwife. Together, they explore what it means to embrace the dual calling of doula work and midwifery and how both roles are acts of service, advocacy, and healing.   Elder Charlotte shares her journey from personal loss to becoming one of only a few Black midwives in Louisiana, carrying forward the wisdom of generations. Chanté reflects on how her experiences as a doula shaped her path into midwifery and her vision for compassionate, individualized care. They remind us that titles may change, but the heart of this work remains the same: being present, being of service, and being called to birth.   (03:46) How Chanté's Birth Experience Inspired Her to Become a Doula (05:42) Elder Charlotte's Journey from Stillbirth to Midwifery as a Calling (10:59) How Doula Work Shapes Midwifery Care and Philosophy (14:34) Serving Underserved Communities as One of Four Black Midwives in Louisiana (19:01) Shifting from Midwife to Doula During Hospital Transfers (24:08) Chanté's Perspective on Identity, Service, and Humility in Birth Work (28:40) Micro vs. Macro Advocacy: Supporting Families and Legislative Change (37:29) Navigating Hospital Restrictions During the Pandemic (42:57) Lessons from Midwifery School (45:30) Advice for Those Considering Doula or Midwifery Paths   Resources Follow Chanté on Instagram: @babydreamsmc Connect with Ms. Charlotte: midwifecharlotte.com Connect with an Evidence Based Birth® Instructor: directory.evidencebasedbirth.com Learn more about the National Perinatal Task Force: perinataltaskforce.com Visit the Commonsense Childbirth School of Midwifery: commonsensemidwifery.org Check out the Kentucky Birth Coalition: kentuckyhomebirthcoalition.com Visit the Mercy In Action College of Midwifery: mercycollegeofmidwifery.edu   For more information about Evidence Based Birth® and a crash course on evidence based care, visit www.ebbirth.com. Follow us on Instagram and YouTube! Ready to learn more? Grab an EBB Podcast Listening Guide or read Dr. Dekker's book, "Babies Are Not Pizzas: They're Born, Not Delivered!" If you want to get involved at EBB, join our Professional membership (scholarship options available) and get on the wait list for our EBB Instructor program. Find an EBB Instructor here, and click here to learn more about the EBB Childbirth Class.
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In the Evidence Based Birth® podcast, we cover the research evidence on hot topics about pregnancy and childbirth! Our mission is to help birth workers build the evidence based knowledge, skills, and power they need to protect families' ability to give birth with empowerment. The work we do has a huge impact on parents who are searching for accurate information to empower their prenatal, birth, and postpartum experiences!
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