THE RUNNING EFFECT PODCAST

The hat made the Hall of Fame before he did. 

Dave Wottle’s white golf cap was a freebie handed to meet officials while he was injured in 1971, and it went into the National Track & Field Hall of Fame four years ahead of its owner.

Dominic sits down with the 1972 Olympic 800m champion, still the last American man to win the event. Their conversation starts with a shy Canton freshman who almost walked away from the track sign-up, and ends with the photo finish in Munich, when his name flashed first on the scoreboard. Wottle explains why he always considered himself a miler. He also tells how an 800 he ran purely as a speed workout ended in a tied world record he didn’t know existed, and what it felt like when Roger Bannister stopped him on his jog back to the village.

He revisits Bill Bowerman’s “traded a gold medal for a wife” jab and the chance flight that turned it into a dinner invitation. He talks about the 1973 Hayward mile against Steve Prefontaine, which he still regrets not racing for the record. He also looks back on the short-lived pro circuit, the U.S. middle-distance revival, Cooper Lutkenhaus, and the faith that grounded him.

Fifty-four years later, the autograph requests still arrive every week. Wottle’s final message is a gift to every runner: find the talent you’ve been given, do the work, and trust that the lessons this sport teaches stay with you long after the last race.

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Jerry Schumacher called it on day one.

When Kieran Tuntivate joined the Bowerman Track Club in 2020, Jerry told him he could run any event he wanted, but he was going to be a marathoner someday. Six years later, Kieran has been with Jerry longer than anyone else in the group, and the prediction came true with a 2:08:01 Thai national record in his Chicago Marathon debut. 

Kieran thinks it could have gone better.

He takes Dominic through the whole build. He spent the summer at 4,500 feet in Park City, Utah, with peak weeks around 125 miles. Kieran explains why he kept super shoes out of his long runs and how lifting heavy twice a week held his legs together over the last 10K. 

He also lays out how the training partnership with Charles Hicks works. Charles is the marathon veteran, and Kieran brings the track speed, which is how he outkicked him at the New Haven 20K. They also get into why Kieran stayed while so many friends left Bowerman, and how Jerry coaches each generation differently. Kieran talks about Alex Ostberg as the analytical counterweight to Jerry’s eye, makes a bold call on how fast Charles can go, and describes the running boom back in Thailand.

More than anything, Kieran wants young runners in Thailand to believe they can be great distance runners, too. With 18 national records already, he’s showing them it can be done.

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Two years ago, Emily Venters almost quit. Now she’s the hottest name on American roads.

Emily returns to TRE for her second conversation, two years after a July 2024 episode about the dark side of professional running. Since then she has won three U.S. road titles in 2026, run a wire-to-wire championship record of 31:09 at the USATF 10K, and set a half marathon PB of 1:07:37 in Valencia to finish as the top American woman.

The two talk about keeping running from becoming her whole identity, even in a career-best year, and how being diagnosed with leukemia at age three may have put the fight in her early. Emily explains why she won’t post her training online and why coach David Roche, who started working with her in May, has been “a godsend” for her nerves and overthinking. She also tells the full story of her 2025 Chicago Marathon debut: the dizzy spells, and why she finished anyway after dropping out of races in the past. That decision changed how she races.

Then she says her goal out loud: the American half marathon record. She wants to see 1:05 on the clock and to help close the gap between American women and the best in the world.

This is an honest conversation with a runner who learned not to fear failure. Stay to the end to hear what she’d tell the version of herself who almost quit, and about the pizza she celebrates with.

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Dominic didn’t listen, and he’s the first to admit it.

Josh Blatchford, founder and CEO of Attuned, returns to The Running Effect to put Dom’s sub-three Columbus Marathon attempt on blast. Dom took five Endurance Scans, starting with one of the best scores Attuned has seen in November 2025. Four weeks before Columbus, an Achilles injury ended his race. Josh explains how Attuned’s pattern recognition flagged Dom’s lower leg and Achilles on August 22, weeks before he felt any pain. According to Josh, the training block wasn’t the problem. Dom neglected the foundation: his feet, his posterior chain, adrenals that were already shot, and the custom remedies he never took.

Then they zoom out to data from more than 600 runner scans. Seventy-six percent flag hydration and electrolyte balance as critical, which reopens Dom’s electrolyte debate with Riley Witt. Also, runners who report great sleep are 40% more likely to avoid a critical system. Josh also explains why all but one of the Attuned runners who missed their goal in Berlin had gut issues. 
 
He covers why a breakup stresses the body the same way a training block does, what carbon-plated shoes may be doing to the lower leg, and why so many athletes get their results and never act on them. He also makes an emotional plea for female runners struggling with RED-S.

It’s an honest, funny conversation between two friends who log miles together, and a reminder that your body starts talking long before it hurts.

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Fifteen seconds down with 600 meters to go is not supposed to be a winning position. 

For South Eugene senior and Duke commit Yosuke Shibata, it was how his undefeated fall began. In this installment of our Fleet Feet x Brooks High School Cross Country Series, Dominic talks with the Brooks NIL athlete about how a summer of Achilles and peroneal tendonitis issues turned into the best season of his life. 

He explains why his mileage has barely changed since sophomore year, how hours on an Arc Trainer at the local YMCA kept his fitness alive, and how he scouted the final hill at Bob Firman the day before he ran everyone down on it. Yosuke goes back to seventh grade, when he joined track because his friends did, and describes himself now as a runner whose “fitness has finally caught up to my mentality.” 

He’s candid about whether the Rose City course was short behind his 14:20. He also breaks down Coach Jeff Hess’s double threshold and critical velocity training, his salt-and-a-banana take on electrolyte powders, and why he rotates his shoes. Then he describes winning the Virginia Showcase while sick, and buried in IB coursework. 

When Dominic asks how he beats Marcelo Montecon for a national title, Yosuke keeps it simple: whoever wants it more. 

Whatever happens at Balboa Park, Yosuke has already shown how far belief, consistency and a real love of the work can carry a runner, and we can’t wait to watch him chase the rest. 

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