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We talk so much about intention and communication in romantic relationships, but our friendships deserve the same amount of effort.

My beautiful girl (and Unwineding Podcast regular), Angie Lassman, is back and we’re doing what we do best: talking about female friendships.

We’re exploring how the love languages show up in friendship (vs. romantic relationships) and why understanding how your friends feel loved can completely change the way you show up for each other. We also talk about the importance of communication, navigating misunderstandings, and why friendships deserve the same level of care and intention we often reserve for romantic relationships.

And we’re circling back on a challenge we gave each other last summer—on being less avoidant (lol). Angie worked on her avoidance with friends (and killed it), and I worked on my avoidance with men (and didn’t exactly kill it). But we live and we learn.

We also chat about:

• love languages in friendship and how they show up differently than in romantic relationships• why understanding your friends’ love languages can strengthen your friendship• how to communicate better in friendships• asking for what you need from your friends• why healthy friendships require effort, intention, and communication• navigating misunderstandings and conflict in friendship• how we’re working on our people-pleasing tendencies• why many of us struggle to voice our needs in relationships• how small acts of care can make friends feel loved and supported• the importance of nurturing female friendships• why strong friendships are built (they don’t just exist)

As always, I hope there’s something in this conversation you needed today—take whatever resonates and leave the rest. See you next week. x

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Why do we glamorize not caring? Why are we so embarrassed to be seen trying?

In the second installment of our DEBRIEF series, we’re exploring the cultural obsession with being effortless and why pretending you don’t care about something might actually be holding you back.

From dating advice and relationships to careers, confidence, and personal growth, we’re constantly told to play it cool: don’t try too hard, don’t text first, don’t show how much you care. But the truth is that the most meaningful things in life—deep friendships, healthy relationships, successful careers, and personal development—are built through effort, intention, and perseverance (not magic. and most DEF not by pretending you don’t care).

If you’ve ever wondered whether struggle means something isn’t meant for you, or felt embarrassed for wanting something badly, this conversation will shift how you think about effort, discipline, and success.

We’re debriefing:

• why society glamorizes effortlessness and natural talent• the pressure to appear unbothered in dating and relationships• why trying hard isn’t embarrassing (and why we think it is)• the difference between forcing something vs. putting in effort• why hard doesn’t mean something isn’t meant for you• the psychology of grit, perseverance, and skill development• how discipline and consistency shape success more than talent• the fear of visible effort and public failure (especially on social media)• why the most meaningful things in life require intentional effort• a closing journaling prompt for self-reflection and personal growth

As always, take whatever resonates & leave the rest. And please remember: nothing meaningful is built by pretending you don’t care.

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No one teaches you how to lose a parent. And no one teaches you what to say to someone who has.In this episode of Unwineding, Destinee and I talk about what it actually means to navigate grief—especially after losing a parent. We open up about losing our dads, the identity shift that comes with that kind of loss, and the strange, quiet ways grief shows up long after everyone else thinks you’re “okay.”Because sometimes grief is so loud.But sometimes it’s subtle.Sometimes it hits you months later on a random Wednesday.

And then there’s the other side of it:What do you do when someone you love is grieving?How do you support someone coping with loss when you’re afraid of saying the wrong thing?How do you show up when you can’t fix it?

In this conversation, we talk:• what navigating grief really looks like after losing a parent• how coping with loss can reshape your identity• why grief doesn’t follow a timeline• the unexpected emotional waves of grieving• what actually helps when you’re grieving—and what doesn’t• how to support someone who is grieving• what to say to someone grieving (and what to avoid)• how to be there for someone navigating loss without trying to solve it• why grief doesn’t end—it evolves

This episode is for anyone who is grieving a parent, coping with loss, or trying to figure out how to support someone who is grieving.Because grief is universal (unfortunately) we will all experience loss, but the way we carry it is deeply personal. So if you’re navigating grief right now, I hope this makes you feel seen and understood (we truly feel you).If you love someone who is grieving, I hope this gives you clarity and confidence in how to show up for them (because we need you).And remember, sometimes support isn’t about having perfect words.It’s just about staying.

Welcome to a conversation about love, loss, and the kind of grief that changes you forever.

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This episode is a case of the blind leading the blind. Lauren takes an attachment style quiz to find out what her style is (spoiler alert: we were wrong) and we talk about what we're learning about dating in our 30s, how attachment styles actually show up in real life (not just in psychology books), and why we both might need a little therapy (but like, who doesn't?).

We get into anxious vs. avoidant vs. disorganized attachment, what it means to “earn” secure attachment, and why the smallest shift in texting cadence can send your nervous system into a SPIRAL. We talk about overanalyzing, needing reassurance, taking space personally, and the story your brain makes up when you really like someone.

If you’ve ever wondered why you react the way you do in dating or why intimacy can feel both exciting and terrifying—this conversation will probably (hopefully) feel a little too relatable. As always, take whatever resonates and leave the rest. LOVE YOU. x
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What if I told you that you could go through a breakup with someone you thought you were going to marry... and not be heartbroken? And what if I told you that you actually CAN have it all—the career, the standards, the dream relationship—without settling or shrinking yourself?

Emma Paige, host of the Too Much Podcast, is back on Unwineding this week, and this is exactly what we’re getting into.

How do you not self-abandon in a relationship? How do you walk away from someone who's great on paper but you just don’t feel excited about it? How do you actually enjoy being single instead of treating it like a waiting room? And how does raising your standards actually make dating MORE fun, not harder?

In this episode we cover:

healing after a breakup without losing your confidence

how to stop settling in dating

rebuilding your standards after heartbreak

why high standards attract better partners

walking away from someone who’s good on paper

how to enjoy being single and stop rushing a relationship

dating in your 30s and choosing intentionally

not self-abandoning in relationships

boundaries, self-respect, and emotional availability

why patience leads to a healthier long-term relationship

creating a life that attracts the right partner

If you're single, heartbroken, or just trying to figure out what you deserve—this episode is gonna hit different. This conversation is equal parts therapy session and pep talk, and I promise you're gonna walk away feeling so empowered.

We talk about what happens when you stop dating out of fear and start dating with clarity—why some breakups feel devastating while others feel like relief, and how building a full life actually changes who you attract. This episode is about self-worth, boundaries, and the mindset shift that leads to healthier relationships and real commitment. As always, take whatever resonates & leave the rest. LOVE YOU. x

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