The Man Enough Podcast

TW: This episode discusses suicide and depression In this uplifting episode, we sit down with Kevin Hines, an award-winning speaker and mental health advocate, to explore resilience, hope, and the journey to self-love. At the age of 19, Kevin survived a suicide attempt that forever changed his life. He shares his path from the miracle that saved him that day to now dedicating himself to helping others overcome "brain pain" and find their way to healing. Throughout the conversation, Kevin shares profound insights on the power of empathy, the importance of positive self-talk, and the critical need to reach out for help when it’s needed most. They touch on the complexities of mental health, the impact of childhood trauma, and the transformative effect of forgiveness. He also discusses his advocacy work, including his role in the installation of suicide prevention nets at the Golden Gate Bridge. This is a powerful reminder that no matter how difficult life gets, there is always hope, and that each life holds immense value. Whether you’re seeking inspiration or practical advice on mental health, this conversation is for anyone striving to live a fuller, more compassionate life with the ability to find light in the darkest moments. Don't miss this chance to hear from a man who has turned his pain into a mission to save lives. If you are in Crisis, or struggling with thoughts of suicide please call or text 988 or text CNQR to 741-741 TIMECODES: (01:47) Introducing Kevin Hines (5:11) Kevin Hines' background, challenges he faced growing up, and his life-changing experience at the Golden Gate Bridge.  (12:19) Current state of boys/men and skewed perceptions of suicide (17:45) Moving from self-hate to self-love (24:35) Jamey reflects on his own mother and experiences (28:18) Reframing definitions, perceptions and approach to suicide and people that need help (57:26) Gender trends and differences related to suicide, normalizing struggle for all (1:05:22) The initiative to get suicide prevention nets installed at the Golden Gate Bridge (1:09:51) Exercise to reduce negative self-talk and depression (1:12:15) What does it mean to be “man enough”? QUOTES: "Suicide is not the answer to the problem. It is the problem. You're beautiful just as you are, and you are enough." - Kevin (1:10:50) "We are all human who want the same things. We want to experience joy and love. We want to be seen…We want to build some legacy, to be valued, to make a mark in some way." - Jamey (24:57) "The thoughts are…It's almost like you're on this radio station and you can't change the channel...And it's constant and it's all the time and it is inescapable in many ways…But the solution is not for you to go. It’s to actually ask for help." - Liz (16:48) "Without self-love we cannot give of ourselves to any other human being." - Kevin (14:15) KEVIN HINES LINKS:  Books: The Art of Being Broken, How Storytelling Saves Lives; The Dimly Lit Star - https://kevinhinesstory.com/shop/  Film: The Net - https://TheNetMovie.com  https://www.instagram.com/kevinhinesstory/  https://x.com/KevinHinesStory   http://YouTube.com/KevinHines http://YouTube.com/HinesightsPodcast    SUPPORT MAN ENOUGH https://manenough.com/newsletter  https://manenough.com/books  https://boyswillbehuman.com  FOLLOW THE HOSTS Liz Plank https://instagram.com/feministabulous https://tiktok.com/@lizplank https://facebook.com/feministabulous https://twitter.com/feministabulous http://www.elizabethplank.com/ Jamey Heath  https://instagram.com/jamey_heath_ https://tiktok.com/@jameyheath https://twitter.com/jamey_heath_ https://facebook.com/jameyjaz http://www.jameyheath.com/ Executive Producers: Justin Baldoni, Jamey Heath, Tarah Malhotra-Feinberg Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hosts Jamey Heath and Liz Plank discuss the significant shifts happening in our society and the crucial role men play in supporting these changes. This moment is a catalyst for broader conversations about gender and racial equality, challenging us to reconsider who gets to lead and whose voices matter. Moving beyond politics, they recognize the cultural crossroads we face right now — a chance for America to reckon with its history and redefine its future.  Liz and Jamey highlight how men are actively dismantling long-standing barriers to equality. They stress the importance for men, the traditional power holders, to actively support women in leadership roles, especially Black women and other historically marginalized people.  Men will make great impact when they recognize women’s contributions and help to break down barriers that have long kept them from positions of power. By standing with them and championing their leadership, men can help shape a future where everyone thrives. This episode encourages all of us, particularly men, to engage in meaningful conversations, challenge the status quo, and work together to build a society that values and uplifts everyone. It is a collective movement toward a more just and inclusive world, where men and women unite in a societal awakening that drives people to build something new together. QUOTES: "The best room is not a room full of women. It's a room full of everybody." – Liz (32:57) "We look for all reasons to keep people down, to oppress, and to not let women (I don't even like saying the word 'let' like it's mine to even give), but to not champion women being in their full glory." – Jamey (20:20) "This is a huge moment for women, for women of color being our leaders and us following them and supporting them." – Liz (5:26) “I need my son and my daughter, other sons and daughters to learn how to see with their own eyes, hear with their own ears, to make an assessment that's borne out of truth, and not just false imitation. Just because my parents thought it, just because someone else said it. It's like really dive in yourself. And I feel like men…the more that we take a good look at ourselves, look at who's in front of us, look at the capacity of people, look at the beauty of people, look at some of the faults…do it with our own eyes and not get caught up in the mob, we become better, and better, and better.” - Jamey (33:02) “it's not men versus women. A lot of people will try and convince you that that's the way that it is. If you give a lot to women, that means you're taking away from men...The other option is men plus women equals even infinity, that when we work together, and we collaborate, and we love each other, and we unite, and we connect, then the world is our oyster. Then we all get more freedom. We all get more possibility. We all get more liberty, and all of the beautiful things that we want in life. And it's a lot more fun...when we get along.” - Liz (31:59) “We're seeing men…[that] are the fruit of all the labor that you have been doing, of so many people who are saying, "Don't ignore us. We have incredible things to say. Get your foot off my neck." And that's what makes me feel proud when I see men of this nature raising money for something 10 years ago would've not. 100 years ago, they would've been in jail for raising money for a Black campaign, or shot and killed.” - Jamey (10:01) SUPPORT MAN ENOUGH https://manenough.com/newsletter  https://manenough.com/books  https://boyswillbehuman.com  FOLLOW THE HOSTS Liz Plank https://instagram.com/feministabulous https://tiktok.com/@lizplank https://facebook.com/feministabulous https://x.com/feministabulous http://elizabethplank.com/ Jamey Heath  https://instagram.com/jamey_heath_ https://tiktok.com/@jameyheath https://x.com/jamey_heath_ https://facebook.com/jameyjaz http://jameyheath.com/ Executive Producers: Justin Baldoni, Jamey Heath, Tarah Malhotra-Feinberg Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TW: This episode discusses domestic and gun violence.  This inspiring episode focuses on the journey from trauma to healing and loving relationships, featuring a conversation with A Call to Men Chief Communications Officer Kimya Motley, who is a domestic violence (dv) survivor, and psychologist and relationships expert Dr. Alduan Tartt.  Kimya shares her remarkable story of resilience and recovery after surviving repeated violence, emphasizing the importance of recognizing red flags and finding positive role models for healthy manhood.  Dr. Tartt, who also played a pivotal role in Kimya's healing journey, serving as an example of positive masculinity, provides insights into fostering healthy relationships and offers practical advice on breaking the cycle of abuse.  They explore the power of community, policy reform and media representation in an effort to create a safer and more supportive world. Despite the harrowing realities they discuss, this conversation shines a light on the hope and healing that can emerge from even the darkest experiences.  They also discuss IT ENDS WITH US, the new film from Wayfarer Studios and Justin Baldoni, which depicts situations and themes of dv between its two lead characters. The film, which just celebrated its global theatrical premiere, was made in close consultation with our partners at NO MORE and is based on the best-selling novel by Colleen Hoover.  Join a hopeful conversation, providing valuable tools for anyone committed to understanding and combating dv. Watch the video version on our YouTube. If you or someone you know has experienced domestic or sexual violence, help is available: http://nomore.org/ QUOTES: "You don’t just wake up one day to get shot by your husband. There are things that you go through in your life that bring you to that." - Kimya "We have to produce more media where people can see examples of positive manhood because we take it for granted that everyone sees this." - Dr. Tartt "To be man enough means to be your authentic self, not being defined by what other people say you should be or represent as a man, but what does being a man feel like to you?" - Kimya "The most healing came from me sharing my story with other people, hearing women and men come and say, ‘Thank you for sharing that,’ and then they were able to share their stories of abuse, surviving, and men who had a part." - Kimya "Being man enough means being bigger than your pride and admitting that you need help." - Dr. Tartt "The emotional abuse usually sets the groundwork for the physical abuse to then feel normal or even deserved." - Liz ABOUT THE GUESTS Kimya Motley is an educator, activist, and author dedicated to ending violence against women and girls. At A Call to Men, she uses her personal story to inspire change and promote healthy manhood. Her memoir, Born of Violence, gained national attention, and her work has been featured in Essence, Red Table Talks, and more. She co-produced the documentary Intentionally Erased and created violence-prevention trainings for the NFL and MLB. IG: @kimyamotley TikTok: @kimyamotley FB: KimyaNMotley Dr. Alduan Tartt is a psychologist, minister, speaker, and author, recognized as a leading expert in relationships and mental health. He has a PhD in Clinical Psychology and received the NAACP Lifetime Achievement Award for his dedication to empowering youth and families. He's a passionate advocate for redefining masculinity to include emotional expression, compassion, and strength, and he's committed to helping people build healthy, fulfilling relationships. IG: @drtartt drtartt.com YT: DRTARTT1 X: @drtartt MORE MAN ENOUGH https://manenough.com/newsletter  IG: @wearemanenough TikTok: @wearemanenough FOLLOW THE HOSTS Liz Plank IG: @feministabulous TikTok: @lizplank X: @feministabulous http://elizabethplank.com/ Jamey Heath  IG: @jamey_heath_ TikTok: @jameyheath http://jameyheath.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The hosts tackle what it means to be a provider today, discuss how men can balance financial and emotional support, and explore the evolving roles in relationships. In the spirit of the trend “Guys Under 30 Ask, Guys Over 30 Answer”, Jamey answers audience questions on self-compassion, accountability, and being present in a fast-paced world. From redefining traditional gender roles to maintaining healthy relationships with exes, this episode offers relatable insights and practical advice.  Whether you're seeking self-compassion or reflecting on life's journey, Jamey and Liz provide an engaging discussion on modern masculinity and building fulfilling, balanced lives. TIMECODES: (02:58) Topic Begins: Men Under 30 Ask, Jamey (Man Over 30) Answers (04:57) @lookforrev: “What skills have you learned around self-compassion?” (09:22) @AustinCA03: "Dads who had kids relatively early, how do you maintain balance in your life while also providing for your child and spouse?" (13:58) Theo: "What are the interpersonal or relationship skills you wish you could have learned earlier and how would you have gone about learning them?" (20:37) James: How are expectations of what it means to be a provider changing when we are all struggling in this economy? (25:25) Riley: "What are the positives of getting older?" (31:06) "What can I do to help overcome the voice that's telling me to keep being miserable?" (35:49) Jamey asks Liz: "At what point does it become easier?" (39:31) "Who has been able to maintain strong and healthy relationship with their exes?" QUOTES: "I think you fall in love much more easily when you accept the person that you are trying to be in love with." - Jamey “The voice inside my head that I thought was me for 30 plus years is actually a liar. And in the moments where I feel like that voice is really loud, that's a signal to me that I need to behave differently. Because I think it's hard to change the voice, but if you are treating yourself with compassion and you're treating yourself kindly, then that voice will become less high-pitched.” - Liz “In this day and age where more and more women are being seen and valued for their contributions, as they should, have opportunities more than maybe at one time were afforded to them, I think families have to consult and discuss what providing means. It doesn't just mean financially. Does dad provide for the family emotionally, taking care of the home, watching out for the children, taking them to baseball practice or laundry and dishes?” - Jamey "I feel like friendships, relationships are built in the nothingness, in the mundane stuff, and just the normal stuff." - Jamey "I'm gonna look back at this time and think I was so young. I'm not gonna think about all the insecurities that I have right now about how aging is showing up in my body." - Liz “How we can be better in the world, how we can be better to our parents, our children, our friends, our workmates? When you are fully accountable, then you can have real forgiveness for yourself.” - Jamey “If you can see the end in the beginning, you might think that very thing that you were distressed about, knowing that that's what's going to then get you to the next stage. So I think part of the thing to make life easier is embrace where you are in this day.” - Jamey SUPPORT MAN ENOUGH https://manenough.com/newsletter  https://manenough.com/books  https://boyswillbehuman.com  FOLLOW THE HOSTS Liz Plank https://instagram.com/feministabulous https://tiktok.com/@lizplank https://facebook.com/feministabulous https://x.com/feministabulous http://elizabethplank.com/ Jamey Heath  https://instagram.com/jamey_heath_ https://tiktok.com/@jameyheath https://x.com/jamey_heath_ https://facebook.com/jameyjaz http://jameyheath.com/ Executive Producers: Justin Baldoni, Jamey Heath, Tarah Malhotra-Feinberg Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices