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Intangible Podcast

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  • Jake McKenzie | Identity & Grit in the New Locker Room
    In this episode of the Intangible Podcast, Chris Spencer sits down with Jake McKenzie, VP of Membership & Community Engagement for PAC (Pro Athlete Community). Jake’s journey from foster care and instability to becoming one of the most trusted leaders helping pro athletes transition into life beyond sports is powerful and deeply human.Jake opens up about his early upbringing, the identity battles that came with leaving football, and how vulnerability became his greatest strength. He explains the heart behind PAC and the “new locker room” they’re building—one designed to give current and former pros a space to grow, connect, and rediscover their purpose.This conversation is full of insight for athletes navigating transition, parents raising resilient kids, and coaches trying to develop true leaders. Jake breaks down why values matter, how to train mental toughness through hard things, and what it looks like to carry your intangibles into the next chapter of life.Discover your own intangibles at Intangible.io and share this episode with an athlete who needs it.👉 Follow the Intangible Podcast for more stories of grit, resilience, and peak performance: https://intangiblepodcast.buzzsprout.com/ 📱 Stay connected with us: Instagram: @Intangible_Podcast YouTube: Intangible Pod ⭐️ If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to rate, review, and share the podcast—it helps us bring more athlete stories to life. This episode was sponsored by The Legacy Group and Jim Candella, Senior Vice President with UBS Financial Services in their Frankin, TN office. https://advisors.ubs.com/ubslegacy/
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  • Rodney Mcleod | Going Undrafted to Super Bowl Champion
    Super Bowl Champion and 13-year NFL veteran Rodney McLeod joins host Chris Spencer on The Intangible Podcast to talk about the intangibles that fueled his career—from going undrafted to hoisting the Lombardi Trophy with the Philadelphia Eagles.Rodney opens up about his upbringing in D.C., lessons in leadership and composure, the faith and family foundation that grounded him, and his transition into life after football—now as an ESPN SEC analyst and co-founder of the Change Our Future Foundation with his wife, Erika.This conversation dives deep into the mindset behind longevity, the importance of education in the NIL era, and how athletes can build purpose beyond the game. Whether you’re an athlete, parent, or coach, this one’s a masterclass on character, patience, and personal growth.👉 Follow the Intangible Podcast for more stories of grit, resilience, and peak performance: https://intangiblepodcast.buzzsprout.com/ 📱 Stay connected with us: Instagram: @Intangible_Podcast YouTube: Intangible Pod ⭐️ If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to rate, review, and share the podcast—it helps us bring more athlete stories to life. This episode was sponsored by The Legacy Group and Jim Candella, Senior Vice President with UBS Financial Services in their Frankin, TN office. https://advisors.ubs.com/ubslegacy/
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  • Mac Hereford | Inside Nick Saban’s Culture & The Work Ethic Mindset
    Former Alabama wide receiver Mac Hereford joins The Intangible Podcast to unpack what it’s really like to grind your way into Nick Saban’s program — and how that experience shaped his mindset beyond football.From waking up at 4:30 AM to catch passes in front of D1 scouts, to earning his spot on one of the greatest college football teams ever, Mac reveals the discipline, faith, and character that carried him through it all.This episode dives deep into mental toughness, leadership, and the transferable skills athletes can carry into life after sports. Whether you’re an athlete, a parent, or a coach — this one’s packed with lessons on work ethic, confidence, and keeping the main thing the main thing.📲 Follow us on Instagram: @intangiblepodcast👉 Follow the Intangible Podcast for more stories of grit, resilience, and peak performance: https://intangiblepodcast.buzzsprout.com/ 📱 Stay connected with us: Instagram: @Intangible_Podcast YouTube: Intangible Pod ⭐️ If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to rate, review, and share the podcast—it helps us bring more athlete stories to life. This episode was sponsored by The Legacy Group and Jim Candella, Senior Vice President with UBS Financial Services in their Frankin, TN office. https://advisors.ubs.com/ubslegacy/
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  • Derrick Furlow Jr. | Life After Sports and The Reinvention Mindset
    What happens when the game ends — but your purpose is just beginning? In this powerful episode of The Intangible Podcast, former Tennessee defensive back Derrick Furlow Jr. joins host Chris Spencer to talk about the real work that begins after the final whistle.Derrick opens up about growing up in southwest Atlanta, finding football as his escape, and how a devastating ACL injury forced him to face a bigger question: Who am I outside the game? Now an author, speaker, and entrepreneur, Derrick has dedicated his life to helping athletes navigate transition, mental health, and leadership with intention and purpose.From walking on at Tennessee to earning two degrees in four years, Derrick’s journey is a masterclass in resilience, mindset, and service over self.If you’re an athlete, coach, or parent wondering what separates the good from the great — this conversation is for you.👉 Follow the Intangible Podcast for more stories of grit, resilience, and peak performance: https://intangiblepodcast.buzzsprout.com/ 📱 Stay connected with us: Instagram: @Intangible_Podcast YouTube: Intangible Pod ⭐️ If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to rate, review, and share the podcast—it helps us bring more athlete stories to life. This episode was sponsored by The Legacy Group and Jim Candella, Senior Vice President with UBS Financial Services in their Frankin, TN office. https://advisors.ubs.com/ubslegacy/
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  • Katy Sullivan | “Why Not Me?” – From Paralympian to Broadway
    Katy Sullivan is proof that limits are meant to be redefined. Born without the lower halves of her legs, Katy grew up in Alabama in a family that never saw her disability as something to fix — only something to face head-on. That foundation shaped her into one of the most inspiring performers and athletes in the world.In this powerful episode, Katy joins Chris Spencer to talk about the resilience that carried her from the track to the stage — from representing Team USA at the Paralympic Games to starring on Broadway in Cost of Living. She opens up about facing rejection, rebuilding after injury, and how vulnerability became her greatest strength.Katy’s story is a reminder that greatness doesn’t come from talent alone — it comes from belief, curiosity, and a relentless will to grow. Whether you’re an athlete, a parent, or a coach, her journey will make you rethink what’s possible.🎯 Learn more about unlocking your own intangibles at Intangibles.io👉 Follow the Intangible Podcast for more stories of grit, resilience, and peak performance: https://intangiblepodcast.buzzsprout.com/ 📱 Stay connected with us: Instagram: @Intangible_Podcast YouTube: Intangible Pod ⭐️ If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to rate, review, and share the podcast—it helps us bring more athlete stories to life. This episode was sponsored by The Legacy Group and Jim Candella, Senior Vice President with UBS Financial Services in their Frankin, TN office. https://advisors.ubs.com/ubslegacy/
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Welcome to the Intangible Podcast. We sit with professional athletes, coaches and experts to uncover the intangible qualities that drive peak performance. Through our conversations we discover the strategies, mindset shifts, and hidden strengths that elevate athletes to new heights.
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