The Allan Gray Podcast

• 31. The cost of chasing perfection when investing – with Dr Thomas Curran

  Is perfectionism costing us more than we realise in mental health, life and investment decision-making? Our head of Group Savings and Investments, Shaheed Mohamed, and Dr Thomas Curran, a leading academic on perfectionism and bestselling author, explore how striving for perfection can undermine long-term outcomes. Their conversation ranges from burnout and analysis paralysis to the hidden cost of chasing short-term gains. They also delve into the difference between perfection and excellence, the role of behavioural bias in investing, and the value of cultivating self-compassion and working towards realistic goals. Allan Gray website

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• 30. Investment ideas that make us go hmmm – with Grant Williams

  While what worked for the last 40 years of investing may not work for the next 40, history offers valuable lessons for the path ahead. Chief investment officer Duncan Artus and renowned author and publisher Grant Williams unpick past events and explore future opportunities. From Japan’s decades-long battle with deflation and the unique opportunities in its bond market to the rise of gold as a counterweight to fiat currency, they reflect on market cycles across regions and eras. The conversation spans geopolitics and power, inflation, disruptor industries and the slow pivot from virtual to virtuous value. ·

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• 29. Separating the numbers from the narratives

  There is often a great disparity between a stock’s market value and what it is fundamentally worth. In conversation with portfolio manager Rory Kutisker-Jacobson, Mark Dunley-Owen, portfolio manager from our offshore partner, Orbis, explores global investment opportunities beyond those currently in vogue. They delve into high-conviction picks in China, standout businesses in frontier and emerging markets, and promising US mid-cap industrials, as the rise of AI ripples across sectors. Against the backdrop of shifting geopolitics, they remind investors of the importance of challenging dominant market narratives to avoid overpaying – a key factor in achieving long-term outperformance. Allan Gray website

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• 28. Gold in the age of fiscal dominance

  With government debt levels at historic highs and inflationary pressures lingering, fiscal dominance is reshaping the global monetary landscape. Central banks are increasingly caught in a delicate balancing act – controlling inflation, while also managing the burden of sovereign debt and excess liquidity. At the same time, the US dollar’s role as the world’s primary reserve currency is facing growing scrutiny. Amid this evolving environment, gold is reasserting itself as a trusted store of value. Horacia Naidoo-McCarthy, Institutional Clients manager, hosts portfolio manager Thalia Petousis and investment analyst Umar-Farooq Kagee to explore a wide range of themes – from the recent gold rally to fiscal dominance and safe-haven assets. Allan Gray website · Rebuilding the global monetary order with bricks of gold

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• 27. From pints to Pixar

  Shifting consumer patterns and behaviour. Disruptive innovations. Generational changes. These are not simply headlines; they are real challenges being navigated by investors. However, that is not all they are. They are also opportunity creators for investors who have done their homework and are deeply focused on fundamentals. Allan Gray portfolio managers Rory Kutisker-Jacobson, Jithen Pillay and Siphesihle Zwane delve into British American Tobacco, AB InBev and Disney – three large, long-standing businesses that have managed to reinvent themselves despite existing within rapidly evolving industries, experiencing major changes in their core economics and having made major acquisitions in recent times.

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