Keegan and Company

Jesse Campbell grew up in New Zealand, and works full time as an accountant on the Gold Coast while juggling Marathon training himself, coaching and Content Creation. He ran his first marathon in Queenstown in November 2024 in 3:28 18 months later he ran 2:44 in Osaka. That is 45 minutes off a marathon in under two years, done around a nine to five.

In this episode Jesse and I discuss why he started running, which had nothing to do with racing and everything to do with being lost after he stopped playing basketball. He explains what a day actually looks like at 4:30am, seven runs a week fitted around a full working day, and why that stopped feeling like discipline a long time ago. We get into the race he blew up in after Osaka and his honest read on why it went wrong. Most of it lands wider than running though. What putting a goal out in public actually does to you. How he handles comparison when everyone is posting their times. And what he would say to someone who looks at the people ahead of them and decides there is no point starting, which is that if you stick at anything you can progress at it, and that has carried into the rest of his life further than the running has.
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In this episode, we discuss the difference between motivation, discipline and obsession, and why they behave like three different fuel sources rather than three settings of the same one. We get into the 2017 research on self control that found the most disciplined people are not the ones winning daily fights with themselves, they are the ones who face fewer fights in the first place. We talk about discipline as obsession residue, the two kinds of passion that look identical from the outside and run in opposite directions underneath, the red flags that show the needle has gone too far, and Craig Alexander asking himself at the back end of his career whether he was being selfish. Keegan lands on where he sits on the spectrum, and leaves you with the question he could not shake: if the thing disappeared tomorrow, would you still know who you are.

This podcast is supported by Denza. Thanks DENZA Gold Coast for getting behind the show. https://www.denzagoldcoast.com.au/
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#151 Lachlan Jones: The Discipline Blueprint
#199 Eddie Hearn: What It Takes to Be Great, "You Will Never Outwork Me"

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This is episode 200. In the last hundred episodes I got married, found out I am about to become a dad, and took this podcast full time. I ran Tokyo, Boston and London, with Berlin, Chicago and New York still to come. We brought on our first full time staff member, and we have not missed a weekly episode in three and a half years. Thank you to everyone who has listened along the way. In this episode, I answer the same nine questions past guests recorded for episode 100, and then I watch back what I said the first time and react to it. I talk about the advice from Ali Day I have done every day since, finding out my partner was pregnant on the second of January, sitting in my car at the shops unable to see a way forward, and the stranger who knocked on the window. I cover what I do for my own mental health, why rest turned out to be the fuel rather than the reward, and the whats next for Keegan & Company.

This podcast is supported by Denza. Thanks DENZA Gold Coast for getting behind the show. https://www.denzagoldcoast.com.au/
If you want to watch our last Q&A, here is the one we did at 100 episodes:
#100 Keegan Hipgrave: Q&A
If you want to listen to some of our most listened to episodes from the last 100 episodes, check these out:
#106 Mary Fowler: ACL, Art and Long Distance Relationships
#164 Jai Arrow: Fatherhood and What Really Matters
#170 Grace Grove: Doctor, Runner & Content Creator | Being Yourself & Ditching Toxic Productivity
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This week on a special edition of the Keegan & Company Podcast we welcome Eddie Hearn.
Eddie Hearn took over a promotion built by his father and turned it into the biggest name in world boxing. He runs around forty fight nights a year. This year Matchroom landed in Australia. A new deal with Foxtel brings seven of those cards onto Australian soil, available on Kayo, and the first is at The Star on the Gold Coast, headlined by Teremoana Teremoana and Michael Zerafa. The morning before the card, Eddie and Keegan ran 5k together and then sat down on the sand and recorded this. Grateful he gave us the time.

In this episode, we discuss growing up as Barry Hearn's son and why outperforming a successful father is its own kind of hard start, the drive behind his rule that nobody in his industry will ever outwork him, and why the person with a nine to five walking this beach can be more successful than the billionaire. We also discuss consistency (keep banging on the door, it might take one bang or a thousand), why his favourite saying, this too shall pass, is really about the good times, what interviewing Adam Peaty, Mark Cavendish, Mo Farah and Frank Lampard taught him about the cost of obsession, the selfishness it takes to be the best at anything, and the legacy he wants to leave by making boxing a prominent sport in Australia.

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Johnny Gannon grew up in Maroubra in the Bra Boys era, when you did not talk about your problems and showing any weakness put you at the bottom of the pile. He has spent the last 25 years on the jiu-jitsu mats, took nearly 20 years to earn his black belt, and now runs eight-week health challenges with chapters right across Australia. At 54 he still trains most days, teaches his three kids, and is as curious as he has ever been. We were stoked to get him in.
In this episode, we discuss how training became his way of coping, why he reckons you have to look after number one before you can look after anyone else, and the mate who told him to respect himself. He explains his wheel of health, the eight-week challenge that has people quitting the drink for good, and learning to hold his breath for three and a half minutes on an empty lung by getting curious instead of scared. We also get into the Bra Boys years, the grit that came out of them, and what he wants for his own kids instead.

This podcast is supported by Denza. Thanks DENZA Gold Coast for getting behind the show. https://www.denzagoldcoast.com.au/
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