Keegan and Company

Gretel Bueta grew up on the Gold Coast playing everything she could get her hands on. She signed her first professional basketball contract at 17, played three junior world championships and was named WNBL Rookie of the Year. Then she got glandular fever, stopped enjoying it and walked away from the sport entirely. Three months later she started playing netball socially with school friends, and did not make the district team. She went on to play more than 100 games for the Queensland Firebirds and over 50 for the Diamonds, won Commonwealth Games gold and the Liz Ellis Diamond as the best player in Australian netball, and came back after her first child playing some of the best netball of her life. She is now a mother of three. Grateful she came in and talked about all of it.
In this episode Gretel and I discuss what happened when she came back to netball after having Bobby and found she was hungrier than she had ever been, why she decided she would either come back and be the best or not come back at all, burning out at 17 and her parents telling her to go work at the local bank and be happy, the netball trial she did not get picked for, how trying to play the perfect game cost her a Commonwealth Games, the quote she used to force selection, the 15 minutes a day nobody ever saw, her mum running the house as the family CEO, and whether motherhood is harder than professional sport.
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#33 Allie Smith: Swifts Cult, Perfectionism and Building Confidence | Apple | YouTube Another netballer on perfectionism, and the New South Wales Swifts, the club Gretel played for in 2014.
#27 Kelsey Browne: Journey with Body Image, Clinical Depression, and a Glass Half Full Perspective | Apple | YouTube A former professional netballer on what the sport took out of her.
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In this episode I get into bids for connection, the Gottman Institute's term for the small moments when your partner reaches out to you, and why how often you turn towards them is one of the biggest predictors of whether a couple stays together or gets divorced. I go through the newlywed research that followed couples for six years and sorted them into masters and disasters, and the part that actually matters, which is not catching every bid but going back to repair the ones you miss. I talk about the emotional bank account, Alexis Fernandez's tennis ball, the bird theory trend and Robert Irwin's answer to it, and why the phone is the biggest killer of all of it. I go into the year I spent making big grand gestures while missing the small ones, and what changed in the two weeks before I recorded this.
This one was made with Denza. We packed the B5, drove up into the hinterland and set camp for the night, and that is where the episode was recorded. The cooler in the centre console kept the sandwiches cold on the way up, the boot is spacious and fits everything we need and this car is just such a pleasure to drive. Thanks DENZA Gold Coast.
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#186 Alexis Fernandez The Neuroscience of Connection, Creativity & Heartbreak:
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The conversation this whole episode came out of, and where the tennis ball comes from.

#190 The Psychology of Monotasking: Why Being Bored Makes You More Creative:
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The companion to the phone half of this one.

How to Help People Feel Comfortable | Episode 179:
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The instinct I did not have a name for until this one.

#146 Harry Garside: Masculinity, Vulnerability & Boxing:
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Jesse Campbell grew up in New Zealand, and works full time as an accountant on the Gold Coast while juggling Marathon training himself, coaching and Content Creation. He ran his first marathon in Queenstown in November 2024 in 3:28 18 months later he ran 2:44 in Osaka. That is 45 minutes off a marathon in under two years, done around a nine to five.

In this episode Jesse and I discuss why he started running, which had nothing to do with racing and everything to do with being lost after he stopped playing basketball. He explains what a day actually looks like at 4:30am, seven runs a week fitted around a full working day, and why that stopped feeling like discipline a long time ago. We get into the race he blew up in after Osaka and his honest read on why it went wrong. Most of it lands wider than running though. What putting a goal out in public actually does to you. How he handles comparison when everyone is posting their times. And what he would say to someone who looks at the people ahead of them and decides there is no point starting, which is that if you stick at anything you can progress at it, and that has carried into the rest of his life further than the running has.
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#162 Jake Barraclough (RanToJapan): 280km Weeks, Running in Japan & Finding Your Limit: Spotify · Apple · YouTube
#160 Andy Buchanan: Finding Purpose In Running: Spotify · Apple · YouTube
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In this episode, we discuss the difference between motivation, discipline and obsession, and why they behave like three different fuel sources rather than three settings of the same one. We get into the 2017 research on self control that found the most disciplined people are not the ones winning daily fights with themselves, they are the ones who face fewer fights in the first place. We talk about discipline as obsession residue, the two kinds of passion that look identical from the outside and run in opposite directions underneath, the red flags that show the needle has gone too far, and Craig Alexander asking himself at the back end of his career whether he was being selfish. Keegan lands on where he sits on the spectrum, and leaves you with the question he could not shake: if the thing disappeared tomorrow, would you still know who you are.

This podcast is supported by Denza. Thanks DENZA Gold Coast for getting behind the show. https://www.denzagoldcoast.com.au/
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#129 Craig Alexander: Harder Than Ironman The episode Keegan quotes in this one, and the clearest example of the leash being held.
#151 Lachlan Jones: The Discipline Blueprint
#199 Eddie Hearn: What It Takes to Be Great, "You Will Never Outwork Me"

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This is episode 200. In the last hundred episodes I got married, found out I am about to become a dad, and took this podcast full time. I ran Tokyo, Boston and London, with Berlin, Chicago and New York still to come. We brought on our first full time staff member, and we have not missed a weekly episode in three and a half years. Thank you to everyone who has listened along the way. In this episode, I answer the same nine questions past guests recorded for episode 100, and then I watch back what I said the first time and react to it. I talk about the advice from Ali Day I have done every day since, finding out my partner was pregnant on the second of January, sitting in my car at the shops unable to see a way forward, and the stranger who knocked on the window. I cover what I do for my own mental health, why rest turned out to be the fuel rather than the reward, and the whats next for Keegan & Company.

This podcast is supported by Denza. Thanks DENZA Gold Coast for getting behind the show. https://www.denzagoldcoast.com.au/
If you want to watch our last Q&A, here is the one we did at 100 episodes:
#100 Keegan Hipgrave: Q&A
If you want to listen to some of our most listened to episodes from the last 100 episodes, check these out:
#106 Mary Fowler: ACL, Art and Long Distance Relationships
#164 Jai Arrow: Fatherhood and What Really Matters
#170 Grace Grove: Doctor, Runner & Content Creator | Being Yourself & Ditching Toxic Productivity
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