170 episodes
- Everyone believes power in Lagos belongs to one man, that he holds it, transfers it at his pleasure, and there's nothing anybody can do about that. GRV has spent three years trying to prove that's a myth.
Gbadebo Rhodes-Vivour (GRV) is an architect, activist, and the ADC's gubernatorial candidate for Lagos State, one of the most recognizable political figures of his generation. He took his 2023 election petition all the way to the Supreme Court, and he's back with a harder, more organized run at 2027.
In this episode, we get into how Lagos government actually works from the ward level up, the ₦160 million generator hidden in the state budget, carrying a five-generation Lagos family legacy, the Funsho Williams murder that still shapes Lagos politics today, the diaspora land scam that still haunts him, why he calls integrity "expensive," and his unfiltered message to Nigerians abroad thinking about coming home.
WHERE TO FIND GBADEBO RHODES-VIVOUR (GRV)
Campaign Website: https://grvlagos.com/
X/Twitter: https://x.com/GRVlagos
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grvlagos/
X/Twitter (Media): https://x.com/grvlagosmedia
Instagram (Media): https://www.instagram.com/grvlagosmedia/
Become a Member of The Room (Afropolitan Private Membership)
Join our private community for deeper insights and exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/c/Afropolitanpodcast
EPISODE SPONSORS
Zobo Money — Zobo is a money transfer app built for Africans in the diaspora. It lets you send money from the US, UK, and Europe to countries like Nigeria, Cameroon, Ghana, and more. https://www.zobo.money/afropolitan
BONUS OFFER: Use code AFROPOLITAN and get a $10 bonus when you sign up, complete your KYC, and send $50 or more to Africa.
CONVO BY AFROPOLITAN
Book 1:1 calls with Africa's boldest thinkers: https://convo.vip/
AFROPOLITAN
Twitter/X: https://x.com/afropolitan
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/afropolitanpodcast
Newsletter: https://www.afropolitan.io/newsletter
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/Afropolitanpodcast
Timestamps:
0:00 – The Biggest Myth About Power in Lagos
1:41 – Quick Ask Before We Go Deeper (Subscribe to the Afropolitan Family)
2:03 – Is Lagos Really a Six-Horse Race?
4:19 – Why 2027 Feels Different From 2023
5:48 – "The Worst Experience in 20 Years": How Bad Governance Broke the Naira
6:59 – Divide and Rule: How Tribal Politics Kept Nigerians Fighting Each Other
9:39 – What Happens When Voters Finally Wake Up
10:26 – Breaking Down the Six-Horse Race
12:28 – How Lagos Government Actually Works, Ward to State
17:23 – What a Governor Controls That the President Can't Touch
19:04 – The IGR Number Every Diaspora Nigerian Should Know
20:40 – Where Do Lagos's Trillions Actually Go?
23:03 – The ₦160 Million Generator: Inside Lagos's Budget Padding
26:37 – Carrying a Five-Generation Lagos Legacy
27:22 – How Fighting GMOs Turned Into a Political Career
28:38 – The Grand-Uncle Who Died Bombing Nazi Germany
29:46 – "Integrity Is Expensive": Why Not Everyone Can Afford to Stand
32:55 – Zobo Money: How GRV Sends Money Home
33:35 – Why Nigeria's Elite Have Failed the Country
34:04 – From "The Giant of Africa" to Where We Are Now
41:15 – Philosopher Kings vs. Rulers: What Real Leadership Looks Like
45:19 – The Murder That Still Haunts Lagos Politics (Funsho Williams)
48:56 – What a Singapore Minister's Salary Taught Him About Corruption
51:58 – Why Nigerians Sell Their Votes, and Why He Won't Judge Them
53:48 – How a Clean Politician Gets Compromised From the Inside
55:16 – "A Part of Me Died After the Election Cycle"
58:19 – Going to the Supreme Court and Losing
1:01:46 – His Honest Message to Nigerians in the Diaspora
1:07:23 – The Diaspora Land Scam That Still Haunts Him
1:09:04 – "Why Are These Things Unthinkable?": Naming What We Normalize
1:10:51 – We Glamorize Our Suffering, and He's Tired of It
1:14:14 – The Demolition, the Tear Gas, and the Man Beaten in Front of Him
1:16:21 – Anthony Joshua's Emergency and What It Says About All of Us
1:19:20 – The Direct Question: Can He Actually Win?
1:22:01 – Why He Left the Coalition Talks and Joined the ADC
1:24:06 – Building a 50-Year Plan for Black People
1:28:59 – "We Should Be Like Wakanda": On Africa's Vulnerability
1:33:47 – Why Africa Needs Leaders Who Plan in Secret
1:37:51 – The Federalist Papers Quote That Explains Africa's Struggle
1:41:31 – What Lee Kuan Yew Understood That Nigeria's Leaders Don't
1:43:27 – "I Will Not Go to Court": His Line in the Sand
1:46:35 – Rapid Fire: Food, Cities, Songs and Regrets
1:47:59 – The Man He Calls His Hero
1:48:52 – The Unpopular Decision That Cost Him Support
1:53:38 – His Real Plan to Win Lagos
1:55:05 – What Power Does to People Who Were Never Ready for It Billionaire Ex-Gubernatorial Candidate Exposes Why Nigerian Politics Is Rigged
2026/07/29 | 1h 38 mins.Tonye Cole co-founder of Sahara sit down with Eche Emole and Chika Uwazie, one of Africa's largest energy conglomerates, and a Nigerian politician who walked away from the comfort of the private sector to run for office. An architect by training who started out making models for cash in his university years, he went bankrupt overnight when a new administration cancelled every contract his young company had and rebuilt.
In this episode we get into why power trumps money every single time, the trick he and his partners used to get around Nigeria's expatriate bias in the '90s, why politics in Nigeria functions like a lottery ticket, what he learned processing the 2023 election, the three reasons business partnerships collapse, 43 years of compounding and why he says he can't go broke, the difference between outward humility and inward pride, and how his wife's housemanship salary kept the family alive while he built the company. Also: mental health, grief, and the year his mother died. A long, unhurried conversation about power, faith, and building something that outlasts you.
Become a Member of The Room (Afropolitan Private Membership) Join our private community for deeper insights and exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/c/Afropolitanpodcast
EPISODE SPONSORS Zobo Money — Zobo is a money transfer app built for Africans in the diaspora. It lets you send money from the US, UK, and Europe to countries like Nigeria, Cameroon, Ghana, and more. https://www.zobo.money/afropolitan
BONUS OFFER:
Use code AFROPOLITAN and get a $10 bonus when you sign up, complete your KYC, and send $50 or more to Africa.
AFROPOLITAN Twitter/X: https://x.com/afropolitan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/afropolitanpodcast Newsletter: https://www.afropolitan.io/newsletter Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/Afropolitanpodcast- Preston Ideh is the co-founder and CEO of Stears, the company building the data infrastructure for African markets (think Crunchbase meets the Bloomberg Terminal, built for Africa). A UK-qualified lawyer who walked away from big law, moved back to Nigeria, and bet everything on one idea: information is power, and Africa is dangerously under-documented.
In this episode we get into why data is "structured history," how investors quietly hold the edge over founders, the real difference between PE and VC money, why the next wave of African wealth is hiding in boring businesses, what the AI shift means for builders, and a rare, personal story about learning grief far too young. One of our sharpest conversations yet on money, power, and what it actually takes to build.
Become a Member of The Room (Afropolitan Private Membership)
Join our private community for deeper insights and exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/c/Afropolitanpodcast
EPISODE SPONSORS
Zobo Money — Zobo is a money transfer app built for Africans in the diaspora. It lets you send money from the US, UK, and Europe to countries like Nigeria, Cameroon, Ghana, and more. https://www.zobo.money/afropolitan
BONUS OFFER: Use code AFROPOLITAN and get a $10 bonus when you sign up, complete your KYC, and send $50 or more to Africa.
CONVO BY AFROPOLITAN
Book 1:1 calls with Africa's boldest thinkers: https://convo.vip/
WHERE TO FIND PRESTON IDEH
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/preston-timeyin-ideh-06484775
X/Twitter: https://x.com/TimeyinPI
Stears (website): https://www.stears.co
Stears on X/Twitter: https://x.com/StearsInsights
Stears on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stearsco
Stears on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/stears
AFROPOLITAN
Twitter/X: https://x.com/afropolitan
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/afropolitanpodcast
Newsletter: https://www.afropolitan.io/newsletter
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/Afropolitanpodcast
⏱️ TIMESTAMPS
0:00 – Cold open
0:41 – The #1 thing you need to build in Nigeria
1:42 – Building a network from scratch (Twitter DMs & Saturday breakfasts)
3:58 – From UK lawyer to founder: the pivot home
6:01 – Nigerian law school, wig and tie
6:50 – "Data is a form of power"
8:03 – Why data is structured history
9:02 – The investor's edge founders don't have
10:17 – Why Nigeria didn't rebase its GDP for 20 years
14:41 – What Opay & Moneypoint reveal about the informal economy
16:36 – Inside The Room (Patreon)
17:29 – A word from Zobo Money
18:12 – The cultural reasons Africans won't share data
23:21 – What Stears actually is
25:02 – PE vs VC: how the money really works
28:51 – Boring businesses that make money
30:40 – Growth vs profitability: what investors want now
33:24 – The unsexy businesses that will build wealth
35:02 – Logistics, cold storage & agriculture
40:04 – Creative industries as a dollar export
42:25 – The $10 trillion succession problem
44:10 – Why Nigerian family businesses don't sell
49:09 – Franchises: iFitness, Chicken Republic & the PE playbook
55:07 – AI, data, and the future of Stears
56:29 – Why people are the real friction with AI
1:00:34 – Advice to founders who just raised: slow down
1:01:34 – The Loyola plane crash & learning grief young
1:05:27 – What legacy means in the age of AI
1:08:29 – Rapid fire
1:09:45 – Due diligence, culture & "remote intelligence"
1:12:22 – Who needs to be on this couch next? - She went from a Birmingham estate to 104 caps for England, qualified as a lawyer at one of the most elite firms in the world, and wrote a six-figure check to prove women's football is an investable asset. But Eni Aluko's story was never just about sport.
In this episode, Eche and Chika sit down with Eni Aluko — former England and Chelsea striker, qualified solicitor, sporting director, and investor — for a conversation about identity, money, and what it costs to stand alone. Eni breaks down why she put her own money into women's football, what she learned taking on the FA and winning a landmark case against Joey Barton, and how Blackness feels different living between the US and the UK. She gets honest about the friendships she lost, the version of herself she had to grieve, and why she'd rather be respected than liked.
This is a conversation about legacy, power, and who gets to control the narrative — and it's our first-ever sit-down with a sports figure on the couch.
Become a Member of The Room (Afropolitan Private Membership)
https://www.patreon.com/c/Afropolitanpodcast
—
EPISODE SPONSORS
Zobo Money — Zobo is a money transfer app built for Africans in the diaspora. It lets you send money from the US, UK, and Europe to countries like Nigeria, Cameroon, Ghana, and more.
https://www.zobo.money/afropolitan
BONUS OFFER: Use code AFROPOLITAN and get a $10 bonus when you sign up, complete your KYC, and send $50 or more to Africa.
Hisa — Borderless investments for Africa. Use code AFROPOLITAN: https://hisa.co/
CONVO BY AFROPOLITAN Book 1:1 calls with Africa's boldest thinkers: https://convo.vip/
—
WHERE TO FIND ENI ALUKO
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enialuko
X/Twitter: https://x.com/Eni_Aluko
LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/eniola-aluko-mbe-4922032a
—
AFROPOLITAN
Twitter/X: https://x.com/afropolitan
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/afropolitanpodcast
Newsletter: https://www.afropolitan.io/newsletter
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/Afropolitanpodcast
—
#AfropolitanPodcast #EniAluko #WomensFootball #Diaspora
0:00 - Intro
2:08 - Why women's football is an investable asset
3:45 - The six-figure check into Mercury 13
7:48 - Birmingham estate, a senator father, an economist grandfather
10:02 - Her mother's sacrifice as a young immigrant
12:18 - Running law and football in parallel
14:48 - The one phone call that changed everything
17:08 - Grieving the "magic circle partner" she could have been
18:44 - The doors football opened: World Cups, royalty, CAF & UEFA
22:14 - The Room on Patreon
23:07 - Zobo Money
23:50 - Blackness in the US vs the UK
28:42 - Stephen Bartlett, proximity to whiteness & African identity
33:17 - Who protects Black women? Shicks & Gigs, BAFTAs, Michael B. Jordan
36:46 - Class: the UK ceiling vs Nigerian "splash"
39:48 - Ambition, guilt, and the UK tax exodus
43:18 - The FA case and standing on principle
45:59 - Taking on Joey Barton and setting a legal precedent
48:06 - What the fight cost her — and getting herself back
50:28 - What the storm revealed about friendship
55:02 - When she stopped hiding being Nigerian
56:39 - On being disliked: haters, Meghan Markle & security
1:00:30 - Online accountability, anonymity & her work with Ofcom
1:03:01 - Living up to her name: dignity and wealth
1:04:40 - Firing managers, Abramovich & the Chelsea winning culture
1:07:27 - Players as assets and the private-equity model in football
1:09:44 - Player leverage: Messi, Beckham & Ronaldo
1:11:40 - Apple TV vs Netflix in sports
1:12:53 - The 2026 World Cup ticket mess
1:17:13 - Why Mexico is the "real Bali"
1:18:22 - Spa & wellness culture in Mexico and Lagos
1:20:18 - Investing in African sports infrastructure
1:23:55 - The AFCON final drama: Senegal, Morocco & the walk-off
1:27:15 - Hisa
1:28:27 - Rapid fire
1:37:54 - Who should be in the chair next
1:41:26 - Come home: the diaspora pulling back to the continent - Iyinoluwa "Iyin" Aboyeji helped build two of Africa's most important tech companies — Andela and Flutterwave. Now he's after something bigger: making sure every African can earn at least $10,000 a year by leveraging AI. In this episode, Iyin sits down with Eche and Chika to break down why "investing is for lazy people," the two competing visions of the future (America vs. China), why the real origins of AI trace back to Africa, and why anyone in the diaspora who doesn't come home in the next two years may regret it. A conversation about power, capital, energy, and who you actually choose to build for.
Become a Member of The Room (Afropolitan Private Membership)
Join our private community for deeper insights and exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/c/Afropolitanpodcast
EPISODE SPONSORS
Zobo Money — Zobo is a money transfer app built for Africans in the diaspora. It lets you send money from the US, UK, and Europe to countries like Nigeria, Cameroon, Ghana, and more. https://www.zobo.money/afropolitan
BONUS OFFER: Use code AFROPOLITAN and get a $10 bonus when you sign up, complete your KYC, and send $50 or more to Africa.
Hisa — Borderless investments for Africa. Use code AFROPOLITAN: https://hisa.co/
CONVO BY AFROPOLITAN
Book 1:1 calls with Africa's boldest thinkers: https://convo.vip/
WHERE TO FIND IYIN ABOYEJI
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iaboyeji
X/Twitter: https://x.com/iaboyeji
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eaboyeji
Future Africa: https://www.future.africa/
Accelerate Africa: https://acceler8.africa/
AFROPOLITAN
Twitter/X: https://x.com/afropolitan
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/afropolitanpodcast
Newsletter: https://www.afropolitan.io/newsletter
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/Afropolitanpodcast
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 – "Investing is for lazy people"
2:27 – Two visions of the future: America vs. China
7:11 – How China engineered 70 years of growth
9:43 – A message to the diaspora
14:13 – Breaking down the Dangote blueprint
19:01 – The mission: every African earning $10,000 a year
26:44 – Trump, power, and who you make money for
33:41 – Sponsor: Zobo Money
36:01 – The real origins of AI
42:36 – Inside the raise: radical capital, built for Africa
46:38 – Why Africa wins the energy war
49:23 – Owning the rails: data, goods, and payments
53:32 – Data centers, Netflix, and the creative economy
1:00:18 – Building the diaspora bridge with intention
1:09:14 – Future Africa and the fundraising reset
1:15:32 – Co-founders, equity, and valuing contribution
1:29:47 – Accelerate Africa vs. Y Combinator
1:32:32 – One executive order from eviction: why come home
1:39:33 – "Anybody who doesn't come home in the next two years…"
1:43:59 – Unicorns, monopolies, and the Dangote debate
1:48:24 – Validation vs. inspiration
1:59:59 – Who needs to be in the room
2:02:03 – The closing question: who belongs on this chair
More Business podcasts
Trending Business podcasts
About Afropolitan
The Afropolitan Podcast
Hosted by Chika Uwazie & Eche Emole
This isn’t just a podcast. It’s a mirror to the soul of the African diaspora.
Each week, co-hosts Chika & Eche sit down with founders, culture-shapers, and bold thinkers to explore the truth behind the highlights, shedding light on grief, growth, legacy, power, identity, and everything in between.
You’ll hear the stories you won’t find on panels.
The questions most people are too afraid to ask.
The answers that stay with you long after the episode ends.
From billion-dollar builders to first-gen visionaries, we go there.
About Afropolitan:
Afropolitan is building a digital nation for Africans and the diaspora—powered by culture, capital, and code.
The podcast is one piece of a global movement to create infrastructure for Black and African ambition at scale.
This is the sound of a new era.
Raw. Soulful. Unapologetically Afropolitan.
Watch on Youtube as well
https://www.youtube.com/@Afropolitan?sub_confirmation=1
Podcast websiteListen to Afropolitan, Honest Money and many other podcasts from around the world with the radio.net app

Get the free radio.net app
- Stations and podcasts to bookmark
- Stream via Wi-Fi or Bluetooth
- Supports Carplay & Android Auto
- Many other app features
Get the free radio.net app
- Stations and podcasts to bookmark
- Stream via Wi-Fi or Bluetooth
- Supports Carplay & Android Auto
- Many other app features


Afropolitan
Scan code,
download the app,
start listening.
download the app,
start listening.
Afropolitan: Podcasts in Family






















