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    From Springs to Taiwan to London: Why South Africa Is Calling Again -Ep 92 with Quinton Pullinge

    2026/10/05 | 50 mins.
    Quinton Pullinger’s story is anything but a straight line.
    He grew up in Springs, South Africa, trained as a goldsmith, and then took an unexpected leap to Taiwan after seeing an advert to teach English. What he thought would be a one-year adventure became nearly nine years.
    In Taiwan he learned Mandarin, built a career in the bicycle industry, travelled extensively and learned how to adapt to a completely different culture. He eventually moved into senior roles, including an eight-and-a-half-year journey with Brompton, before another opportunity took him to the UK in 2008.
    Now, after 18 years in Britain, Quinton is asking a question many long-term South African expats eventually face: could South Africa become home again?
    We talk about:
    • Leaving South Africa with no long-term plan
    • Arriving alone in Taiwan and surviving the first six months
    • Learning Mandarin and adapting to a new culture
    • Why negative expat thinking can hold people back
    • Building an international career by saying “yes” to opportunities
    • His journey through the bicycle industry and Brompton
    • Starting again in the UK with no contacts
    • Raising a family abroad and how that changes your risk profile
    • The NHS and the UK cost of living
    • Why Cape Town would be his choice if he returned to South Africa
    • Whether a part-time “swallow” lifestyle could work
    • His advice to his younger self: be more adventurous and take more risks
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    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 Introduction
    01:27 Weybridge and life near London
    02:41 Growing up in Springs
    06:00 The unexpected move to Taiwan
    07:14 Learning Mandarin and surviving the first six months
    09:16 Working and living in Taiwan
    13:26 Returning to South Africa — and leaving again
    15:10 Building a career in the bicycle industry
    16:06 Why he eventually left Taiwan
    18:13 Getting the opportunity to move to the UK
    20:12 Meeting his wife and starting a family
    21:08 Moving abroad alone
    22:26 The danger of negative expat thinking
    25:32 Values, friendships and identity abroad
    26:08 A career built without a plan
    29:44 Starting over in the UK
    31:08 The mindset needed to make emigration work
    33:49 Could South Africa become home again?
    36:14 Why Cape Town would be his choice
    37:33 Could a part-time return work?
    39:33 South Africa, France or the UK?
    40:14 The NHS and healthcare
    42:32 The UK cost of living
    44:08 What would he do differently?
    46:21 How family changes your risk profile
    47:17 Advice to his younger self
    48:56 Staying true to your values
    50:05 Final thoughts
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    From South Africa to Chile: Love, Language and a New Life-Ep 91 with Wynand Kuhn

    2026/09/28 | 48 mins.
    Wynand Kuhn's move to Chile was never part of a grand plan.
    Born and raised in Upington, Wynand was working in the restaurant industry in Durban when his brother-in-law invited him to Chile in 2005 to help set up a South African-themed restaurant.
    He arrived knowing almost no Spanish. Then he met the woman who would become his wife — and decided to stay.
    More than 20 years later, Wynand lives with his wife and three sons near Santiago and has built an international career in business and renewable energy.
    In this episode, Wynand talks about arriving in Chile, learning Spanish without formal classes, building a career from English teacher to senior executive, returning to South Africa in 2011 and eventually making his way back to Chile.
    We discuss life in Chile compared with South Africa, safety, healthcare, education, cost of living, food and wine, raising children between two cultures, and why Chile could be an option for South Africans considering a less conventional destination.
    Wynand also talks about the Chilean South African Chamber of Commerce, his possible future move to the United States, and whether South Africa could ever be home again.
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    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 Introduction
    01:15 Growing up in Upington
    02:50 How Wynand ended up in Chile
    05:56 Meeting his wife
    06:24 Learning Spanish without classes
    07:25 Returning to South Africa in 2011
    08:09 Raising three boys
    09:03 The challenges of starting out
    10:16 Building a career in Chile
    12:41 From supermarket worker to general manager
    14:31 Returning to South Africa
    16:00 Finding opportunities through Spanish
    18:00 Why Chile became home again
    23:49 Considering another move
    25:16 Chilean residency and citizenship
    25:40 The possibility of moving to the USA
    26:46 The Chilean South African Chamber of Commerce
    28:19 Living outside Santiago
    29:19 Safety and crime in Chile
    32:27 Healthcare and schooling
    33:57 Minimum wages and cost of living
    34:46 The cappuccino index
    36:12 Chilean food and seafood
    37:53 Chilean wine
    38:54 Staying connected with family in South Africa
    40:32 Could Chile work for South Africans?
    42:52 Tax in Chile
    44:07 Would Wynand ever return to South Africa?
    46:01 His advice to young South Africans
    47:20 Final thoughts

    CONNECT WITH WYNAND
    Wynand Kuhn is active on LinkedIn. You can connect with him here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wynand-kuhn/

    THE RELOCATED SOUTH AFRICAN
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    South Africa, UK, Singapore... And Back to Cape Town-EP 90 with Tracey Shearer

    2026/09/21 | 45 mins.
    Tracey Shearer left South Africa in 2003 with an Irish passport, a printer and no real plan beyond seeing what life abroad had to offer.
    What followed was a 13-year journey through the UK and Singapore before eventually returning to Cape Town.
    Tracey grew up on Johannesburg's East Rand and spent 13 years running a design agency with her sister before deciding it was time to leave. In London, her original entrepreneurial plans didn't work out, and she eventually found her way into maritime recruitment, a career she has now been in for around 20 years.
    Singapore became a major part of her life. She ran a recruitment company there for seven years, built an international network and experienced a very different way of living.
    Eventually, however, her heart was pulling her back to South Africa.
    In this episode, Tracey talks honestly about leaving South Africa, the realities of starting again overseas, the cost of living in London, Singapore's safety and efficiency, healthcare, building an international career, and why she ultimately chose Cape Town.
    We also discuss the role of family, the idea that the grass is always greener somewhere else, and how technology has made it possible for Tracey to continue recruiting internationally while living in South Africa.
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    SABLE INTERNATIONAL
    For over 30 years, Sable International has offered seamless solutions that simplify the complexities of cross-border movement and financial management, so that you can focus on what matters most: building your future beyond borders.
    Find out how Sable International can support your journey:
    https://bit.ly/3R3g1sy
    _______________________________________________________________
    TIMESTAMPS
    00:01 Introduction
    01:15 Growing up in Johannesburg
    02:36 Leaving South Africa in 2003
    03:44 Arriving in London with a printer
    04:17 Trying entrepreneurship in the UK
    05:16 Finding maritime recruitment
    06:13 Discovering the maritime industry
    10:52 The cost of living in London
    12:24 Adjusting to life overseas
    13:05 Moving from London to Singapore
    21:58 Healthcare in London and Singapore
    23:27 Why Singapore works so well
    29:47 Building a recruitment company in Singapore
    30:19 Returning to South Africa
    30:52 Working internationally from Cape Town
    32:10 Why family pulled her home
    32:47 Is the grass really greener?
    33:15 Choosing Cape Town
    34:00 Building a life back in South Africa

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    www.therelocatedsouthafrican.com
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    From Durban to Budapest: A South African Finding Home in Hungary-Ep 88 with Connor Jackson

    2026/09/14 | 43 mins.
    Connor Jackson was born in Durban, spent much of his childhood in Tanzania, returned to South Africa, and then unexpectedly found himself building a life in Hungary.
    At 18, Connor went to Hungary on a Rotary exchange programme. He didn't choose Hungary as his first option, but what began as a one-year adventure became a life-changing experience.
    He returned to South Africa after the exchange, started studying at Stellenbosch University, but soon realised that he wanted to return to Hungary. He eventually moved back to Budapest, restarted his degree, learned Hungarian and began building a career there.
    In this episode, Connor talks about:
    Growing up in Tanzania and living in an expat mining community
    Arriving in Hungary with virtually no Hungarian
    The challenge of learning one of Europe's most difficult languages
    Returning to South Africa and discovering that he had changed
    Leaving Stellenbosch and moving back to Budapest
    Studying international relations and starting his career in Hungary
    Finding community through Muay Thai, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and rugby
    What life in Budapest is really like
    Safety, public transport and the cost of living
    Working for Hungarian companies
    The challenges of Hungarian immigration and bureaucracy
    Being forced to leave Hungary after a visa problem
    How a lawyer helped him return
    Why he recently became a Hungarian citizen
    Travelling and building a life across Europe
    Connor also explains why putting yourself out there is so important when you move abroad, and why joining a sports club or other community can be one of the best ways to make friends and build a new life.
    And despite becoming Hungarian, Connor says you never stop being South African.
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    For over 30 years, Sable International has offered seamless solutions that simplify the complexities of cross-border movement and financial management, so that you can focus on what matters most: building your future beyond borders.
    Find out how Sable International can support your journey:
    https://bit.ly/3R3g1sy
    _______________________________________________________________
    TIMESTAMPS
    00:11 Welcome from Budapest
    01:02 Growing up in Tanzania
    03:43 Life in a Tanzanian gold-mining community
    07:20 How Connor ended up in Hungary
    09:08 Living with Hungarian host families
    10:59 Arriving in Hungary with no Hungarian
    13:35 Learning the Hungarian language
    14:51 Returning to South Africa
    16:28 Leaving Stellenbosch for Budapest
    18:23 Studying and working in Hungary
    19:12 Finding community through martial arts
    21:35 Living in Hungary during COVID
    23:44 Building a social life in Budapest
    24:40 What Connor loves about Budapest
    27:52 Cost of living in Hungary
    30:50 Working in Budapest
    32:42 Hungarian immigration and bureaucracy
    35:23 Advice for South Africans considering Hungary
    36:55 Becoming a Hungarian citizen
    38:25 Travelling around Europe
    40:00 Committing to your new life abroad
    41:28 Braai, biltong and staying South African

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    From Green Card Lottery to HR Director: Starting Again in America-Ep 87 With Andreas Pyper

    2026/09/07 | 55 mins.
    Andreas Pyper's journey to America began almost by accident. In 1997, he and a group of friends entered the US Green Card Lottery as a joke. His wife Amanda won. A few years later, they packed up their lives in South Africa and moved to California.
    What followed was anything but easy.
    Andreas arrived in America as an experienced HR manager, but found himself starting again at the bottom. His first job was as an HR filing clerk. He had no US credit history, no professional network and no company waiting to welcome him. His wife also had to start over, completing the requirements to become licensed as a therapist in California.
    The first 18 months tested their family and their marriage. They experienced financial pressure, loneliness and uncertainty. Later, they lost their home during the 2008 financial crisis and had to rebuild again.
    But Andreas kept going.
    Today, 26 years after moving to the United States, he is a Human Resources Director for a large county organisation in California. He shares the practical lessons he learned along the way, from building a US credit history and choosing the right employer to understanding pensions, healthcare and the importance of accepting that you may have to take a few steps backwards before moving forward.
    Andreas also has some strong advice for South Africans considering America: build relationships with Americans, don't expect your South African career success to transfer immediately, be prepared to work your way up, and don't underestimate the importance of having a strong marriage and family partnership.
    This is an honest conversation about immigration, resilience, humility, career rebuilding, marriage and making a new life work.
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    SABLE INTERNATIONAL
    For over 30 years, Sable International has offered solutions that simplify the complexities of cross-border movement and financial management, so you can focus on what matters most: building your future beyond borders.
    Find out how Sable International can support your journey:
    https://bit.ly/3R3g1sy
    _______________________________________________________________
    TIMESTAMPS
    00:17 Welcome and Andreas' life in California
    02:32 Growing up in Durban and Cape Town
    07:44 His political upbringing
    09:13 University and national service
    10:31 Working in HR and the Green Card Lottery
    11:16 How his wife won the Green Card Lottery
    13:16 Discovering California
    16:07 His father's life after politics
    17:10 How the Green Card process worked
    19:19 Leaving family behind
    21:02 Starting again in America
    24:29 Building a US credit history
    28:25 His wife's professional re-licensing
    29:30 The difficult first 18 months
    35:29 Immigration and marriage
    37:25 Losing their home during the financial crisis
    42:24 Building their lives again
    42:41 The importance of government jobs and pensions
    45:10 Healthcare in America
    47:02 The biggest mistakes South Africans make
    49:25 Advice for anyone considering emigrating
    52:45 The one thing he would have done differently

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About The Relocated South African | Emigration stories
The show for navigating emigration from South Africa for a better future. Join host Jan Hugo as he shares authentic emigration stories from South Africans who've taken the leap. You'll hear about what drove their decision to leave, the mistakes they made, and how they've built new lives abroad. We'll explore everything from the emotional reality of leaving friends and family behind, to the challenges of emigrating to a foreign country. Relocating isn't always simple, but this show will provide you with the certainty, practical information and support to make the whole process easier.
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