The David Avocado Wolfe Podcast

SUMMARY
What if one of the most misunderstood subjects in nutrition is also one of the most important?
In Episode 48 of the David Avocado Wolfe Podcast, David sits down with longtime friend and legendary fats and oils researcher Udo Erasmus, author of Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill, for a wide-ranging conversation about essential fatty acids, the way oils are processed, omega-3 and omega-6 balance, longevity, purpose, peace, and the extraordinary intelligence of life itself.
At 84 years old, Udo brings decades of research, experimentation, teaching, and personal experience to this conversation, along with the unmistakable energy that has made him such an influential figure in the natural health movement.
David and Udo go deep into the fascinating chemistry of fats — including ALA, linoleic acid, GLA, EPA, DHA, omega-7s, saturated fats, monounsaturated fats, olive oil, flax, sesame, hemp, and other sources of dietary fats — while Udo explains why he believes balance and careful processing matter so much.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
The Truth About Fats
* Why omega-3 and omega-6 fats are both essential
* How processing, heat, light, and oxygen can damage oils
* Why the balance of essential fatty acids matters
The Story Behind Udo’s Oil
* How pesticide poisoning launched Udo’s journey into nutrition
* What his experiments with flax oil taught him about essential fats
* How those discoveries ultimately led to Udo’s Oil
Beyond Nutrition
* Why Udo believes “everything affects health”
* The connection between physical health, self-awareness, and inner peace
* What decades of inner practice have taught him about our relationship with life
From Trauma to Purpose
* How Udo’s childhood as a World War II refugee shaped his search for truth
* Turning difficult experiences into opportunities for growth
* The lesson that moved him from complaining about problems to helping solve them
Longevity & Living Well
* Udo’s perspective on staying active and engaged in his 80s
* Living more closely in alignment with Nature
* Why creating a better future begins with how we live today
Memorable Quotes
“You don’t war yourself to peace. You peace yourself to peace, and you love yourself to life.” — Udo Erasmus
“Everything I was so studiously looking for in the world was all present already inside of me.” — Udo Erasmus
If you make today the best day, then your future is going to be the best ever.
LINKS & RESOURCES
Learn More About Udo Erasmus
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* Udo Erasmus Book: Your Body Needs An Oil Change
Learn More About David Avocado Wolfe
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SUMMARY
In Episode 47, David Wolfe sits down with Brandy Gillmore to explore the connection between the mind, emotions, and physical pain. Brandy shares her personal journey from nearly seven years of debilitating pain and limited mobility to developing an approach centered on identifying and changing subconscious emotional patterns. The conversation explores what she calls the “miswired mind,” the emotional “recipes” that may influence the body, and her use of medical thermography to demonstrate changes in pain responses. David and Brandy also discuss positive emotional patterning, music, neural pathways, subconscious programming, healthy living, and the possibility of transforming deeply ingrained patterns that may be limiting health, happiness, and personal potential.
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EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
1. Brandy Gillmore’s Journey from Chronic Pain
Brandy shares how two accidents radically changed her life, leaving her with spinal injuries, severe neurological pain, and years of limited mobility.
* Discovering the Mind-Body Connection: Her search eventually led her to explore how thoughts, emotions, and subconscious patterns may influence physical responses in the body.
2. What Is Pain?
David asks one of the central questions of the episode: What actually is pain? Brandy describes pain as a signal that something is off, like a check-engine light.
* Survivor’s Guilt and Brandy’s Personal “Recipe”
* Emotional Recipes Rather Than One Universal Cause
* The “Miswired Mind”: One of Brandy’s central concepts is the idea that the subconscious mind can connect seemingly unrelated experiences.
* When Positive Goals Have Negative Associations: People may consciously seek health, happiness, confidence, or success while subconsciously associating those outcomes with guilt, rejection, jealousy, or other negative consequences.
* Reverse Emotional Processing
3. Identify and Challenge Old Programming
David and Brandy discuss recognizing old beliefs, questioning whether they are true, and deliberately replacing them with healthier ways of thinking and feeling.
* Positive Emotional Patterning and the “180 Shift”
* Music as a Tool for Emotional Repatterning
* Positive Thinking Versus Emotional Change
* Gratitude, Confidence, and Hidden Emotional Blocks
* Medical Thermography and Visualizing Pain Responses
4. Making Mind-Body Work More Systematic
Brandy wants her approach to develop into a structured, teachable approach that practitioners can use to help people identify and change emotional patterns.
* Health, Happiness, and Achieving Your Dreams: David and Brandy discuss how changing subconscious patterns may influence not only physical well-being but also happiness, success, and the ability to pursue personal goals.
* Tropical Foods, Farming, and Life in Hawaii: The conversation closes on a lighter note as David shares stories about life in Hawaii. Unusual tropical delights abound, including soursop, pineapple-skin tea, dragon fruit, avocados, and breadfruit.
FINAL THOUGHTS
Episode 47 explores a deceptively simple question: What happens when the mind wants one thing while deeper emotional patterns are pulling in another direction?
Brandy Gillmore’s story begins with years of severe physical pain but develops into a broader exploration of subconscious programming. Her central message is that changing our lives may require more than thinking positively. We may also need to recognize the emotional associations that make health, happiness, confidence, love, or success feel unsafe.
David repeatedly returns to the idea of “countercurrents.” These hidden patterns move against our conscious intentions. Brandy’s approach focuses on identifying those patterns, questioning them, deciding how we want to feel instead, and repeatedly strengthening a different emotional response.
The conversation ultimately moves beyond pain management into the larger possibility of changing how we experience life. For Brandy, what begins as an unwanted pattern can become a “gift” — when recognizing it allows us to create a healthier emotional direction and a different future.
LINKS & RESOURCES
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* Why most healing approaches don’t work at the subconscious level — and what to do differently
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Discover More from Brandy Gillmore
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Learn More About David Avocado Wolfe
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SUMMARY
In Part 2 of David Wolfe’s conversation with Christof Melchizedek, the discussion continues into Christof’s framework of the synthetic matrix, spiritual embodiment, planetary energetic architecture, and what he describes as the return of a Christic or Source-based frequency to Earth.
A major theme throughout the episode is the difference between spiritual performance and genuine embodiment. Christof describes what he calls “flame plasma” as a Source-based intelligence that can become activated within the body, particularly within the bones and bone marrow. David connects this idea with his own emphasis on cleansing, fasting, nutrition, herbalism, and grounding spiritual work in the physical body.
Part 2 expands on the hierarchy Christof introduced in Part 1, describing what he sees as coordination layers operating between nonphysical influences and institutions in the physical world.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
1. Planetary Thrones, Vaults, and the Return of Source Frequency
Christof expands his model of planetary spiritual architecture, describing twelve “thrones” connected with different areas of human civilization and twelve energetic “vaults” containing what he calls Source or Christic frequency. He discusses ongoing journeys intended to reopen these structures and restore what he views as Earth’s original energetic design.
2. Flame Plasma and Embodiment
One of the episode’s central concepts is “flame plasma,” which Christof describes as Source intelligence embodied within the human system, particularly the bones and bone marrow. He connects its activation with shadow work, spiritual coherence, regeneration, and oversoul embodiment. David relates this to his own emphasis on grounding spirituality through cleansing, fasting, nutrition, and physical health.
3. Authenticity Versus Performative Spirituality
David and Christof explore the growing distinction between genuinely embodied spirituality and spiritual performance. Christof suggests that greater inner coherence naturally increases discernment, making people less likely to resonate with teachers or influencers whose outward presentation does not match their internal embodiment.
4. Solar Activity, the Flame Return Pulse, and the Synthetic Matrix
Christof describes the years 2025–2032 as a period he calls the “Flame Return Pulse.” He connects future coronal mass ejections with planetary purification and predicts that large solar events could disrupt technologies and systems associated with surveillance, AI, digital currencies, and centralized control.
5. Oversoul Embodiment and Navigating What Comes Next
The conversation repeatedly returns to the importance of embodying the oversoul. Christof describes this as the process through which deeper spiritual intelligence becomes integrated into the nervous system and begins guiding everyday decisions. His closing message is to focus less on predicting the future and more on recognizing the next step that inner guidance presents.
FINAL THOUGHTS
Episode 46 brings David and Christof’s conversation back to a central idea introduced in Part 1: spiritual development is not simply about acquiring information; it is about embodiment.
Whether discussing planetary vaults, collective consciousness fields, solar activity, relationships, technology, or spiritual teachers, Christof repeatedly frames discernment as something that develops through greater internal coherence.
The conversation ultimately becomes less about understanding every layer of the larger spiritual architecture and more about what an individual can do within it. For Christof, that means clearing deeper patterns, becoming more authentic, listening to the oversoul, and allowing one’s spiritual understanding to become fully expressed through the physical body.
David closes with a similarly practical message: listen inwardly, trust the guidance that arises, and take the next step in the direction of the life you are here to create.
LINKS & RESOURCES
🔗 Discover more about Christof’s work here: ChristofMelchizedek.com
🔗 The Energy Transmission Library is available here: https://www.christofmelchizedek.com/energy-transmission-library
🔗 Find Christof on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/@official_christofmelchizedek
🔗 Visit the David Wolfe Shop here: DavidWolfe.com
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SUMMARY
In Part 1 of this wide-ranging conversation, David Avocado Wolfe welcomes Christof Melchizedek for a deep exploration of consciousness, plant medicine, spiritual embodiment, and what Christof calls the “synthetic matrix.” Christof shares the path that took him from physical training and energy medicine into years of shamanic work with Iboga and ayahuasca, along with the experiences that shaped his understanding of the human soul matrix. The discussion moves into the difference between “ascending” out of the body and bringing higher consciousness more fully into the physical body, which Christof describes as embodied ascension. From there, David and Christof explore spiritual control systems, ancient civilizations, the architecture of consciousness, religion, New Age teachings, Stargates, planetary grids, and Christof’s view of the forces influencing humanity.
Part 1 closes with David encouraging listeners to absorb the many ideas introduced before the conversation continues in Part 2.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
1. Plant Medicine and Embodied Consciousness
Christof shares how his work evolved from physical training and energy medicine into years of shamanic practice with Iboga and ayahuasca. He describes ayahuasca as expanding consciousness “up and out,” while Iboga takes consciousness “in and down.” This leads into one of the episode’s central ideas: spiritual development is not about leaving the body, but bringing higher consciousness more fully into it. David resonates with this idea and describes the process as “incension” rather than ascension.
2. The Soul Matrix
Christof introduces his model of the larger human soul architecture, describing the soul, oversoul, avatar, and Rishi as different levels of consciousness. He explains that ceremonial work with Iboga led him to explore what he sees as deep energetic anchors within this larger structure and how those anchors may influence an individual’s present experience.
3. The Synthetic Matrix
A major portion of the conversation focuses on what Christof calls the “synthetic matrix,” an artificial consciousness system that he believes exists apart from organic Source consciousness. He describes a layered hierarchy involving archonic consciousness, Draconian forces, bloodlines, technological systems, and other mechanisms that influence human civilization.
4. Religion, New Age Teachings, and Spiritual Infiltration
Christof argues that control can also occur through spiritual systems. He discusses Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Theosophy, New Age teachings, channeling, ascended masters, and other esoteric traditions. His central distinction is between receiving spiritual information and actually embodying higher consciousness in the physical body.
5. Stargates, Planetary Grids, and Operation Golden Return
Christof describes what he believes are twelve planetary Stargates and associated energetic structures located around the world. He discusses recent ceremonial work involving Egypt, Iran, the Golden Eagle Grid, and Operation Golden Return, including a worldwide network of crystals intended to strengthen what he calls the organic or Christic planetary architecture.
FINAL THOUGHTS
Part 1 of David’s conversation with Christof Melchizedek establishes the foundation for a much larger discussion about consciousness, spirituality, and humanity’s relationship with what Christof describes as organic and synthetic systems.
Across plant medicine, ancient spiritual architecture, religion, planetary grids, and the soul matrix, one theme repeatedly returns: information alone is not transformation. For Christof, the deeper spiritual path involves bringing consciousness fully into the body rather than continually seeking experiences outside of it.
David closes Part 1 intentionally, giving listeners time to absorb Christof’s extensive framework before the conversation continues in Episode 46, which will be Part 2.
LINKS & RESOURCES
🔗 Discover more about Christof’s work here: ChristofMelchizedek.com
🔗 Find Christof on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/@official_christofmelchizedek
🔗 Visit the David Wolfe Shop here: DavidWolfe.com
🔗 Learn more about Wolfe University & David’s Inner Circle here: university.davidwolfe.com
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BACKGROUND / SUMMARY
David Wolfe visits Ars Biomedica in Driebergen, the Netherlands, for a conversation with bioresonance practitioner Rogier Zwijsen. Rogier explains his view that the body is both physical and energetic and describes how bioresonance may be used to identify imbalances and support the body’s self-healing capacity. He also shares his nine-step approach to recovery, beginning with vitality and mitochondrial support before progressing to nutrition, nervous-system balance and, ultimately, detoxification. Throughout the episode, Rogier emphasizes personalized care and the importance of moving slowly with people who are seriously depleted.
Rogier Zwijsen has spent more than 40 years exploring complementary medicine. He began searching for more effective approaches to healing after witnessing serious illness within his own family. Moving beyond his training in psychology, Rogier continued his education in homeopathy, traditional Chinese medicine, acupuncture, herbalism, and Ayurveda before discovering bioresonance and opening his clinic. And with his training and clinical experience, he has discovered this truth: healing should be personalized, carefully paced, and focused on rebuilding the body’s capacity to recover.
🥑 EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
1. Rogier’s Background and Search for Effective Healing
Rogier studied psychology at university but felt that it did not offer the kind of healing approach he wanted to pursue. He continued with training in homeopathy, traditional Chinese medicine, acupuncture, herbalism, and Ayurveda.
His interest in healing was shaped by his mother’s chronic illness and the loss of his nephew Karel to liver cancer. These experiences strengthened his determination to find approaches that went beyond symptom suppression.
As an early adopter of bioresonance technology, Rogier became one of the first practitioners using the technology in the Netherlands. He describes bioresonance as a way of working with the biological and energetic field of the body. In his view, the body contains harmonious and disharmonious patterns that may be detected and influenced.
2. David’s Early Experience with Bioresonance
Bioresonance uses an input-and-output process in which information from the body or from specific substances is processed and returned in a different form.
David shares an experience from the early 2000s involving mosquitoes in his New York apartment.
He placed captured mosquitoes into a bioresonance device, transferred the output into water, and sprayed the water around his home. He describes this experience as an early turning point in his belief that frequency-based technology could produce noticeable effects.
David and Rogier discuss the idea that the human body is more than physical matter.
They refer to chakras, meridians, the aura, quantum physics, simulation theory, and the view that life operates through energy, vibration, and information.
3. The Origins of Bioresonance Technology
Rogier recounts a story about an early healer who received detailed information about bioresonance during a visionary experience. According to the story, the healer wrote down the information and worked with a technically skilled family member to build one of the first devices.
A skilled healer may function in a way similar to a bioresonance device, and people may harmonize their own energy and act as channels for healing. Bioresonance machines, however, can provide a more standardized system for many different patients.
4. Rogier’s Meningitis Infection & Near-Death Experience
In 2014, Rogier developed acute bacterial meningitis while working at the clinic. He describes collapsing, entering a coma, leaving his body, and experiencing other realms of consciousness.
After returning, he felt that his life purpose was to continue developing and sharing his healing work.
During the early stages of recovery, his brain function was severely affected, and he initially experienced paralysis and difficulty walking. Rogier used herbs, energy practices, movement, connection with Nature, and what he describes as spiritual guidance during his recovery.
He returned to movement and work more quickly than expected and developed an herbal formula intended to support the brain and nervous system.
5. The Self-Healing Capacity Scale
Rogier introduces a scale representing different levels of the body’s self-healing capacity. This scale helps estimate how much support a person may need and how slowly treatment should proceed.
At the upper end, a person feels vital and responds well to stressors. At lower levels, vague symptoms, chronic illness, severe disease, and immobility may develop.
* Step One: Balancing the Five Elements and Restoring Mitochondrial Function
* Step Two: Biochemistry and Nutrient Utilization
* Step Three: Regeneration: Peptides and Repair Mechanisms
* Step Four: Immune Deficiency and Confusion (autoimmunity)
* Step Five: Neuro-Body Regulation
* The Pituitary-Hypothalamic Block
* Step Six: Increase O₂ & Lifeforce Capacity
* Qigong and Breathing Exercises
* Step Seven: Parasympathetic - Sympathetic Balance
* Everyday, Emotional, and Karmic Stress
* Step Eight: Nutritional Status
* Food Intolerances and Individualized Diets
* Vegetarianism and Changing the Diet Gradually
* Fasting as Part of Healing
* Step Nine: Strong Detoxification — The Big Wash
* Electromagnetic Exposure
* Radiation Exposure
* Heavy Metals and Chemical Exposures
* Parasites and Chronic Illness
* Fungi, Mold, and Mycotoxins
* Bacteria and Viruses
* Pharmaceutical and Hormonal Residues
* Vaccine-Related Burdens
* Strengthening the Liver and Kidneys
Rogier discusses Herxheimer-type reactions in which symptoms may temporarily intensify during detoxification.
6. Moving Slowly with The Elements
Rogier openly discusses mistakes he made earlier in his career by trying to detoxify very sick patients too quickly.
He learned that severely depleted people may become worse if the body is asked to process more than it can manage. Rogier’s daughter, for example, experienced severe neuro-Borreliosis and neurological inflammation. Attempts to address microorganisms directly made her condition worse. So he shifted to supporting the water element, mitochondria, and foundational vitality before progressing further.
For extremely weak patients, Rogier may begin only with the water element. Once the person becomes more stable, then he may introduce the earth element and later the fire element. This illustrates how slowly treatment may need to proceed.
Lastly, Rogier expects patients to participate actively in the healing process.
Treatment cannot replace the individual’s own effort.
7. Traveling to Ars Biomedica
The clinic is located in Driebergen, near Utrecht and within reach of Amsterdam and Schiphol Airport. International patients sometimes stay nearby for two to four weeks and complete a concentrated series of treatments.
David describes Ars Biomedica as a “Superhero Headquarters” and encourages people to explore facilities like it before becoming seriously ill. He compares the experience to visiting a gym, sauna, or rejuvenation center and presents it as part of an active health routine.
FINAL THOUGHTS / KEY TAKEAWAYS
Rogier’s approach begins by asking how much strength the body currently has and what it can safely manage. Rather than attacking every suspected problem at once, he focuses first on rebuilding energy, organ function, immunity, and nervous-system balance.
The nine-step model includes the five elements, mitochondria, nutrient utilization, peptides, immunity, brain-body communication, oxygenation, nervous-system balance, diet, and detoxification.
The conversation also emphasizes that healing is highly individual. The same protocol, food, or pace may not work for everyone, especially when the body is severely depleted.
The larger message is that healing is not passive. Treatments may offer support, but the individual must also participate through nutrition, breathing, meditation, rest, and gradual lifestyle change.
LINKS & RESOURCES
🔗 Learn more about Ars Biomedica / Biomedical Arts here: ArsBiomedica.com
🔗 Visit Biomedical Arts in the Netherlands:
Ars BiomedicaSt. Hubertuslaan 108A3972 WP Driebergen
Phone +31343531794Whatsapp +31657500137
🔗 Email Ars Biomedica here: info@arsbiomedica.com
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🔗 Visit the David Wolfe Shop here: shop.davidwolfe.com
🔗 Learn more about Wolfe University & David’s Inner Circle here: university.davidwolfe.com
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