Called & Crowned

She survived childhood trauma. Beat lupus into remission. Brought the world’s first cauliflower pizza crust to market when grocery aisles only sold the head. And exited her company at the top 1% of women founders to ever do an 8-figure deal.

Amy Lacey didn’t just build a business. She’s a woman whose life is marked by resilience, faith, and transformation. After years of striving, she made a defining decision: “God is my CEO.” Everything changed from that moment. Today, she helps others heal from the inside out, build meaningful businesses, and step fully into who they’re called to be.

In this episode, Emily sits down with Amy to go beyond the success and into the deeper story - the trauma she carried, how it showed up in her body, and the moment she chose forgiveness. Together, they unpack what it really looks to heal, surrender, and allow God to rebuild parts of your life that felt broken. This episode is going to stir something in you and remind you that no matter what you’ve walked through, you can be faithfully found.

What You’ll Learn:

What changes when you stop hiding your story and use it to serve others

How serving the person you once were brings clarity to what you’re meant to build

Why balancing motherhood and ambition isn’t about perfection 

Why forgiveness is a decision and healing is a process 

What it truly means to make God your CEO

Timestamps:
(02:33) - The Hidden Trauma That Shaped Amy’s Body, Mind, And Business
(03:17) - The Cauliflower Pizza Story
(10:36) - The Prayer That Changed Everything
(14:22) - How Storytelling Beats Strategy in Building Anything That Lasts
(17:01) - What Amy Learned About Motherhood, Ambition, and Presence in Every Season
(27:03) - Finding Healing Through Serving Others
(28:30) - What The Messy Middle Teaches You About Timing and Growth
(31:33) - Why Building for Profit Alone Eventually Stops Feeling Enough
(33:44) - Forgiveness Is a Decision, but Healing Is a Process
(39:10) - Why Rejection Isn’t the End (It’s Just the Next Opportunity)
(41:16) - Why Most People Quit Before They Break Through
(42:53) - Amy’s 5 P’s for Business Success
(48:06) - Building A Personal Brand Around Your Story
(54:32) - Attracting What You Become, Not What You Want

Connect with Amy:

Website | https://heyamylacey.com/ 

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/heyamylacey/ 

Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/amy.lacey.313 

TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@heyamylacey 

More from Emily & FORDIVINE:

Website |  https://meetemilyford.com  

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/itsemily        

Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/itsemilymethod   

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/c/ITSEMILYFORD 

Called & Crowned Podcast | https://www.instagram.com/calledandcrowned/

FORDIVINE | https://www.fordivine.com/

She was born in a cave in Mexico. Today, she has been integral to more than two billion dollars in real estate transactions. But that’s not the story she wants told. 

In this episode, Emily sits down with entrepreneur, investor, and author Ruth Fernandez for a conversation that will deeply challenge almost everything you’ve been taught about money, success, and purpose. Ruth unpacks the Biblical principles behind wealth creation, why so many believers stay financially stuck, and how obedience unlocks provision. 

This episode goes far deeper than money. Together, Emily and Ruth expose the spiritual roots of fear, laziness, ego, hustle culture, and what it actually means to carry Kingdom wealth as a daughter of God. Whether you’re in a season of breaking cycles or building something new, this conversation is your invitation to stop begging for an inheritance that’s already yours and start walking in it.

What You’ll Learn:

Why many people unknowingly partner with poverty

The spiritual difference between being broke and being poor

How obedience unlocks provision and supernatural opportunities

Why isolation, pruning, and lonely seasons are necessary for growth

What true Kingdom wealth was always meant to look like

Timestamps:
(03:45) - Raised in a Cave in Mexico to Billions in Real Estate
(12:11) - Why Christians Misunderstand Wealth
(16:59) - The Spiritual Meaning of Tithing and Provision
(20:42) - “I Was Broke, But Never Poor”
(25:02) - Why Mindset Changes Only Through Action
(27:51) - The Greatest Form of Worship
(32:45) - How to Build True Intimacy with God
(45:34) - Where to Start Reading the Bible (Without Feeling Overwhelmed) 
(48:40) - Why Some Seasons Require Letting Everything Go
(53:42) - The Lonely Process of Becoming Better
(57:12) - Why Feelings Keep People Financially Stuck
(01:06:56) - Message to the Woman Who Feels Financially Defeated

Grab Your Copy of Ruth’s Books:

Kingdom Wealth Is Not Luck, It's Your Birthright | https://a.co/d/02U2Bdqy 

Prosperity Is Not Luck, It's Your Birthright | https://a.co/d/0597w9PE 

Connect with Ruth:

Website | https://itsyourbirthright.org/ 

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/ruthfernandez5/ 

More from Emily & FORDIVINE:

Website |  https://meetemilyford.com  

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/itsemily        

Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/itsemilymethod   

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/c/ITSEMILYFORD 

Called & Crowned Podcast | https://www.instagram.com/calledandcrowned/ 

FORDIVINE | https://www.fordivine.com/

She dropped out of law school without knowing what was next. Became an internationally recognized wedding photographer without owning a camera. Bootstrapped and an 8-figure tech company, knowing nothing about tech. And built a Top 1% podcast from the floor of her closet. 

Jasmine Star didn’t wait for permission. She built anyway. 

She’s the CEO of Social Curator, host of The Jasmin Star Show, and a sought-after keynote speaker and coach to more than 35,000 entrepreneurs worldwide. But behind the success is a far less polished truth: years of self-doubt, identity battles, and moments where quitting felt easier than continuing. 

In this episode, Emily and Jasmine go beyond the highlight reel into the reality of what it takes to bet on yourself when nothing is guaranteed. They talk about identity, burnout, obedience, motherhood, and faith, and why most people stay stuck, not because they lack opportunity, but because they haven’t fully committed to who they’re becoming. 

What You’ll Learn:

The “permission” problem - why women are still asking, still waiting, and still talking themselves down

Navigating the messy middle: burnout, obedience, and identity 

Why the most powerful brands are built through repetition

How to turn everyday content into long-term positioning and authority

Faith as an anchor in seasons of pressure

Timestamps:
(03:42) - Permission vs Partnership: The Hidden Block Keeping Women Stuck
(09:47) - Building a Life on Intentional Alignment
(15:33) - Betting on Yourself Before You’re Ready
(19:10) - Authenticity As the New Currency
(31:00) - The Hidden Cost of Building a Business No One Talks About
(35:00) - Why The Real Deals Are Built in the DMs, Not on the Feed
(38:16) - Why Social Media Will Never Stay the Same and Why You Have to Adapt 
(42:52) - High-Trust Yap Videos That Actually Convert
(44:27) - How-To and BTS Content That Builds Trust Faster Than Polished Posts
(47:23) - Your Personal Brand as Your Business Moat
(49:54) - Content Burnout and the Discipline of Consistency
(56:29) - Motherhood, Faith, and Redefining Success
(01:05:18) - Faith as the Strength That Heals What Confidence Can’t

Connect with Jasmine:

Website | https://jasminestar.com/

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/jasminestar 

Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/JasmineStar

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/@officialjasminestar 

Podcast | https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/the-jasmine-star-show/id1479619320 

More from Emily & FORDIVINE:

Website |  https://meetemilyford.com  

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/itsemily        

Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/itsemilymethod   

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/c/ITSEMILYFORD 

Called & Crowned Podcast | https://www.instagram.com/calledandcrowned/ 

FORDIVINE | https://www.fordivine.com/

Most people don’t struggle with sales because they lack skill. They struggle because something in them feels… off.

If you’ve ever felt icky about selling, if your DMs feel like a graveyard of unanswered pitches, or if you know you have something that can change people’s lives, but you can’t figure out how to talk about it without feeling like a used car salesman, this episode is your wake-up call.

Jake and Emily unpack what most people never get taught about sales: that the problem usually isn’t the offer, the price, or even the audience. It’s the internal disconnect between belief, communication, and conviction. They explore the difference between influence and manipulation, why marketing can silently make sales easier or harder, and how trust is actually built long before the “close” happens. By the end of this conversation, you’ll start to notice the small, overlooked patterns in how you communicate that may be making selling harder than it needs to be,  and what shifts when you finally see them clearly.

Learn more at https://discover.fordivine.com/
Take a free brand quiz at https://quiz.fordivine.com/ 

What You’ll Learn:

Why feeling “icky” about selling is usually a signal of misalignment

The difference between influence and manipulation

How to close without feeling pushy or transactional

Why your marketing might be making sales harder

Follow-up strategies that actually convert

Timestamps:
(03:09) - Why Selling Feels Uncomfortable
(10:16) - The Real Reason People Aren’t Closing
(11:04) - Influence vs Manipulation
(12:45) - How to Know If You’re Being Transactional
(18:16) - The “Mirror Before the Door” Principle
(20:33) - Marketing vs Sales
(27:58) - The Emotional Intelligence of Being Sold
(29:56) - Why Congruence Beats Confidence in Sales
(35:12) - The Power of Voice Notes and Personalization
(42:55) - Follow-Up Strategies That Actually Work
(54:34) - Message to the Woman Who Knows She’s Called, But Can’t Bring Herself to Sell

Connect with Jake:

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/jakehavron    

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxG3bKqLK_M_HZpOgiVrtng 

More from Emily & FORDIVINE:

Website |  https://meetemilyford.com  

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/itsemily        

Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/itsemilymethod   

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/c/ITSEMILYFORD 

Called & Crowned Podcast | https://www.instagram.com/calledandcrowned/ 

FORDIVINE | https://www.fordivine.com/

If you’ve been following our journey, you know this season has been one for the books. We’re 29 weeks pregnant with our baby boy, running Fordivine at full speed, speaking on stages, and navigating what it means to build a life and legacy at the same time. And the truth is, this season is changing us more than the baby ever could.

In this episode, Jake and I sit down for a full, unfiltered update. We’re talking about the real stuff - how our marriage has deepened through this season, what God’s been teaching us about surrender, how our businesses have shifted, and the fears and excitement of becoming parents. We also open up about the behind-the-scenes conversations we’ve never shared publicly before.

Whether you’re in a season of waiting, building, expecting, or just trying to figure out what God is doing right now, this conversation is for you. 

What You’ll Learn:

How pregnancy quietly shifts identity, priorities, and emotional depth

The conversations every couple needs before becoming parents

The reality of preparing for a baby behind the scenes

How we’re learning to integrate family, faith, and ambition

What it takes to prepare for a child while still being refined in the process

Timestamps:
(02:25) - When Pregnancy Changes More Than Your Body
(06:02) - How This Season Is Deepening Our Faith
(17:49) - Rewiring the Way We Think About Life, Work, and Family
(23:15) - When Fatherhood Starts Changing How You Work, Lead, and Show Up
(26:28) - The Conversations You Need Before Becoming Parents
(30:32) - When Life Outgrows Your Plan
(34:34) - The Truth About Baby Monitors No One Tells You
(43:27) - Building Him a Strong Start Without Taking His Freedom
(47:40) - The Moment Pregnancy Unlocked Her Feminine Strength
(50:02) - Obedience Over Hustle: What Parenthood Reveals About Your Priorities
(59:06) - Protecting Your Relationship While Everything Shifts
(01:04:49) - Speaking Life Over Your Child

Connect with Jake:

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/jakehavron    

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxG3bKqLK_M_HZpOgiVrtng 

More from Emily & FORDIVINE:

Website |  https://meetemilyford.com  

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/itsemily        

Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/itsemilymethod   

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/c/ITSEMILYFORD 

Called & Crowned Podcast | https://www.instagram.com/calledandcrowned/ 

FORDIVINE | https://www.fordivine.com/