Conversations With Candice

"Respect the want like it's a need. The way you need to breathe is the way you need to get to
your class. Because as women with busy lives, it's very easy to not respect the want... and when
you disrespect the want, one day it’s gonna come down the road and fling your head back and
disrespect you."

Bob’s your uncle if you’ve got an uncle called Bob! Welcome back to Episode Two of Chapter
Two of Conversations with Candice. This season is all about love and relationships, and today
Candice is flying solo in the studio to tackle three incredibly raw, layered, and jaw-dropping
listener dilemmas.

But before unlocking the inbox, today's episode starts with a heavy heart. Candice pays tribute
to the legendary Kanya King OBE, founder of the MOBO Awards, who recently passed away
from colon cancer. In honour of Kanya’s memory, maternal spirit, and legacy, we are shining a
massive light on the life-saving work of Black Women Rising, a charity dedicated to supporting
Black women navigating cancer care. Please see the links below to support, donate, or
volunteer.

Inside the Dilemma Inbox today:
Dilemma 1: What do you do when you're with an older man who refuses to work a 9-to-5
while you raise three dependent children? Candice breaks down how to slowly, safely pull
your hand out of the lion's mouth.

Dilemma 2: Unpacking the trauma of a 14-year marriage to a deadbeat, narcissistic ex who
is currently weaponising your children and sending inappropriate messages. We talk about
alignment, vibrations, and setting radical boundaries through third-party communication.

Dilemma 3: How to completely rediscover your individual identity and independence after 18
years of being solely relationship centred and mother-focused.

No experts, no perfection. Just real conversations about life as we're actually living it.

SUPPORT BLACK WOMEN RISING
Please support the incredible work being done for Black women navigating cancer:
• Website: https://blackwomenrisinguk.org
• Donate or Volunteer: https://blackwomenrisinguk.org/donate

CONNECT WITH CANDICE
Substack (Deep-Dive Articles & Community): https://substack.com/@candicebrathwaite

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/candicebrathwaite

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@candicebrathwaite

PRODUCTION CREDITS
• Produced by: Undeniable Productions
• Executive Produced by: Candice Brathwaite Aboderin and Bode Aboderin
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"If there was any year we were gonna divorce, it was 2025... Any one of these days, one of us was sliding papers across this motherfucking table."

Welcome back to Chapter Two of Conversations with Candice. We aren't easing you into the theme of love and relationships, we are dropping you straight into the deep end.

This week, Candice is joined by her husband, co-producer, and partner of 14 years, Bode Aboderin for an episode that nearly didn't happen.
Triggered by a powerful listener question about what a "10-year rebuild" actually looks like, Candice and Bode pull back the curtain on the curated edits of social media. They get brutally honest about the financial, mental, and emotional fires that pushed their marriage to absolute quicksand last year. This isn't a fairy tale; it's a raw look at what happens when the scaffolding crumbles, and why choosing each other daily is the hardest, most rewarding work there is.

In this episode, we discuss:

OOTP (Outfit Of The Pod): Uniqlo basics vs. Issey Miyake statements.
The 4 Pillars of a Relationship: Balancing parental, business, intimate, and individual selves.
The Illusion of Stability: Why chasing a perfect balance might be holding you back.
Masculinity & Sacrifice: Bode opens up about quitting his corporate career for the family business and battling identity loss.
The "Cliff" Analogy: Are you a strategic risk-analyzer or a "jump and figure it out" operator?
The Power of Want over Need: Shifting away from the savior complex into true partnership.
The Vasectomy: Why Bode made the decision for himself, and dealing with family expectations.

Follow Candice across socials @candicebrathwaite. This episode is produced by Undeniable Productions and executive produced by Candice Brathwaite Aboderin and Bode Aboderin.

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It's the final episode of chapter one of Conversations with Candice, and what a ride it's been. Before we close this chapter, Candice covers everything from the show's upcoming season break and how you can now join the conversation in Chapter Two, to answering your listener questions live for the very first time.

In this episode, Candice tackles:
Manifestation - why you probably don't believe in yours yet, and how to fix that
Friendship trauma - the uncomfortable truth about seeking closure
The hamster wheel vs. true evolution - and how Candice finally reached contentment

She also reflects on why chapter one was never about transforming in 10 weeks and why the real rebuild takes years, not episodes.

Chapter Two is coming, and the theme is… Love and relationships.! Get ready.

Want to be part of the conversation? Send your questions or voice notes to: contact@conversationswithcandicepodcast.com

Conversations with Candice is produced by Undeniable Productions.
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In this penultimate episode of Chapter One, Candice is calling out the one thing keeping you from moving into the life you've been building, perfectionism.
Using the metaphor of a house that's been renovated but never moved into, Candice breaks down why "snagging" (obsessively nitpicking every last detail of your life’s rebuild) is really just procrastination wearing a designer outfit. She shares her own experience - from the early days of this very podcast launching with sound only coming out of one ear, to the nine episodes it took to finally get blackout blinds - as proof that you learn by doing, not by waiting until everything is perfect.

This episode covers:
Why perfectionism is a safety net, not a standard
How to know when enough is enough, on your own terms
The guilt of silence after chaos and why calm feels so foreign
Practicing completion over perfection
How to celebrate wins without immediately moving the goalposts

Candice's reminder this week: You don't need to fix your life in order to feel like you deserve to live in it.

Note: After next week's Episode 10, Conversations with Candice is taking a 3–4 week break. Use the time to sit with everything from this chapter and actually move in.
Follow Candice: @candicebrathwaite (never braithwaite) across all socials.
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Conversations with Candice is hosted by two-time Sunday Times bestselling author and cultural commentator Candice Brathwaite. New episodes every week.

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Listen on Acast: https://shows.acast.com/conversations-with-candice

Watch on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@conversationswithcandicepod

Follow Candice:
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We're almost at the end of Chapter One and this episode is the one you've been building towards. After weeks of laying foundations, clearing out the rubble, and doing the deep internal work, it's finally time to talk about self-expression. What it looks like to actually show up as yourself in the world. Not performing. Not seeking permission. Not dressing for someone else's approval. Just you, fully expressed.
In this episode, Candice breaks down:

Why knowing yourself and believing in yourself are two very different things
The real cost of cosplaying as someone you're not (the fee vs. the fine)
How dressing intentionally can be the fastest shortcut to your highest alignment
Why self-expression is not about approval it's a statement, not a question
The difference between "do you like who I am?" and "this is who I am"
3 journal prompts to take into the next 7 days

If you've been here since Episode 1, this one's for you. The cocoon is done. It's time to come out.

Conversations with Candice is a series for anyone who's ready to rebuild from the inside out, one honest, unfiltered conversation at a time.

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Conversations with Candice is hosted by two-time Sunday Times bestselling author and cultural commentator Candice Brathwaite. New episodes every week.

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Listen on Acast: https://shows.acast.com/conversations-with-candice

Watch on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@conversationswithcandicepod

Follow Candice:
Instagram: @candicebrathwaite
TikTok: @candicebrathwaite
If you love the show, please leave a review, it really helps others find us. Remain Unrealistic.

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