The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Howard Hewett Interview (Part 2)
Legendary R&B and soul singer Howard Hewett returned for Part 2 of his interview on Money Making Conversations Masterclass to continue discussing his iconic multi‑decade career, his transition from Shalamar to a solo artist, new collaborations, performing for multi‑generational audiences, the evolution of R&B, and his philosophy on life, legacy, work ethic, and spiritual grounding.
This segment is rich with personal stories—from unexpected collaborations to the behind‑the‑scenes decision-making that shaped his career. Hewett also reflects on aging gracefully, staying relevant, maintaining integrity, and building a strong foundation that supports longevity in both life and music.
🎯 Purpose of the Interview
The conversation aims to:
Highlight Howard Hewett’s career longevity, legendary catalog, and current creative projects.
Explore his transition from group success (Shalamar) to building a respected solo career.
Provide insight into new musical collaborations, including work with Ronnie Laws.
Discuss the challenge of performing new music for audiences who crave the classic hits.
Reflect on spirituality, life philosophy, integrity, and aging as keys to sustaining a fulfilling career.
Offer guidance for artists, entrepreneurs, and creatives who must navigate uncertainty, fame, and reinvention.
🔑 Key Takeaways 1. Collaboration with Ronnie Laws
Hewett shared a humorous story about Ronnie Laws showing up at his door while doing Jehovah’s Witness outreach.
Their new collaboration was inspired by a personal connection to Ronnie’s late wife and her love for “Ribbon in the Sky.”
Covers require publishing approval, not necessarily permission from the artist, as long as royalties go to the right places.

2. Transition from Shalamar to Solo Career
Contrary to popular belief, Howard was not the first member to leave—Jeffrey Daniel and Jody Watley departed before him.
His transition happened during the opportunity to record “Dancing in the Sheets” for the Footloose soundtrack.
Initially, he and producer Leon Sylvers did not think Footloose would be a big movie—a now‑humorous regret.
“Dancing in the Sheets” became Shalamar’s second-largest selling single after “Second Time Around.”
3. The Challenge of Performing New Music
Hewett explains that audiences overwhelmingly want the classics, not new songs.
When artists introduce new material during concerts, the room’s energy often drops.
He performs new music only when he can “set it up right” and bring the audience into the moment.
4. Musical Identity & R&B Philosophy
His solo style skewed romantic and intimate because that is authentically who he is as an artist.
He rejects modern attempts to redefine R&B: “R&B is the foundation—of rock, hip‑hop, neo-soul, everything. You can’t replace a foundation.”

He uses the “foundation of a house” as a metaphor for life, music, and spiritual grounding.
5. Multi‑Generational Audience Connection
Hewett loves seeing grandparents, parents, and children attend his shows together—evidence of music that lasts.
His concerts are structured: Act 1: Howard Hewett solo classics (slow jams, connection, romance)
Act 2: Shalamar dance hits (“Second Time Around,” “Make That Move,” “A Night to Remember”)

6. Integrity, Spirituality, and Aging
Hewett emphasizes that integrity, faith, and foundation have sustained his life and career.
He began singing gospel in childhood; his mother was a gospel promoter who booked major gospel acts.
At 70, he says he does not look or feel how he imagined 70 would look when he was younger.
He encourages people to control what they allow into their lives—“stress, drama, or peace.”

7. Entrepreneurship and Resilience
As an entertainer, he equates his career to running a small business—no guaranteed income, no employer‑provided safety net.
COVID forced him off the road for the first time in decades and taught him adaptability.
He attributes his continued success to a solid foundation, timeless hits, and avoiding stress.

8. Life Lessons: Worry, Faith, and the Power of the Tongue
Hewett shared a powerful story about receiving a church pamphlet titled “Worry Is a Sign of Disbelief.”
He spent years removing “worry” from his vocabulary and now avoids negative speech.
He compares the tongue to a ship’s rudder—small but capable of steering life’s direction.

🗣️ Notable Quotes ✔ On new music
“When you do new material, it’s almost like singing in Japanese. People don’t want to hear it unless you set it up right.”

✔ On R&B
“R&B is the foundation—of rock, hip-hop, neo-soul… you can’t replace a foundation.”
✔ On longevity
“Integrity is one of the most important things. Let your yes be your yes.”
✔ On aging
“When I turned 70, I thanked God it doesn’t look like what I thought it would look like when I was 30 or 40.”
✔ On stress
“Stress is like a rocking chair—it gives you a lot to do, but you’re still in the same place when you get done.”
✔ On faith
“If you’re truly a child of God, what are you worried about? Worry is a sign of disbelief"
#SHMS #STRAW #BEST
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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Attorney Whitney Knox Lee
Explains practical estate‑planning strategies—wills, trusts, powers of attorney—and how entrepreneurs, families, and especially parents of disabled children can protect assets, avoid costly probate, and maintain eligibility for critical benefits. The conversation also touches on integrating insurance with estate planning, small‑business contingency planning, and Lee’s personal mission and background in civil rights work.
Purpose of the Interview
Educate listeners on estate planning as a wealth‑preservation strategy (not just documents)—to reduce court costs, taxes, and confusion for families.
Clarify the differences and roles of wills, trusts, and powers of attorney, including when each is appropriate and how they work together.]
Highlight special considerations for entrepreneurs and families with disabled children or aging relatives, including insurance, operating agreements, and special‑needs planning.
Share Lee’s values and practice approach, including culturally responsive service and sustainable advocacy rooted in prior civil‑rights work.
Key Takeaways 1) Wills vs. Trusts vs. Powers of Attorney
A will is not the plan—it’s just one piece and still goes through probate, which can be slow and expensive; think of a will as a “letter to the judge.]
Revocable living trusts can help families bypass probate, reduce delays, and retain more control over how assets are managed after death.
Powers of attorney (financial and health) are essential for incapacity scenarios; even 18‑year‑olds heading to college should have them so parents can access information if needed.
2) Why Insurance Belongs in the Plan
Life insurance can protect the family’s ability to keep the home by paying off a remaining mortgage or covering living expenses—turning an asset into a sustainable legacy rather than a burden.
For entrepreneurs, key‑person insurance can replace income when the owner can’t work, keeping the business afloat.
3) Minimizing Probate Costs and Taxes
Probate involves court filings and legal fees; in some states fees scale with estate size (example discussed: percentage‑based fees in other jurisdictions), which can significantly erode wealth passed to heirs. Proper planning reduces those leakages.
4) Special‑Needs and Elder Planning
Parents of children on need‑based benefits (e.g., Medicaid) must avoid transfers that jeopardize eligibility; the right trust structures preserve benefits while providing support.
Elder law planning anticipates long‑term care costs (nursing home, assisted living, in‑home care) so families don’t have to deplete assets later.
5) Business Continuity for Owners
Establish operating agreements and buy‑sell agreements that spell out who runs the business if the principal is incapacitated; pair with business powers of attorney.
6) Values, Audience, and Access
Lee intentionally centers Black and Brown women and their families, grounding services in community uplift and transparent referrals to trusted financial pros (no paid referral arrangements).
Contact approach: 15‑minute intake, then a four‑meeting process (legacy planning → design → review → signing).
Notable Quotes (for pull‑quotes & captions)
“Think of a will as a letter to the judge… a will still has to go through probate court.
“A trust allows families to bypass probate altogether so they aren’t paying legal fees or leaving things to people who want to challenge the will.
“Life insurance is a huge tool—it can help the family pay off the mortgage so they can keep the home and the equity.”
“Estate planning is a strategy—not just documents.”
“Even 18‑year‑olds should have powers of attorney—parents can’t just call doctors once kids are legal adults.”
“I stay in my lane—I’m an attorney. I work closely with trusted financial professionals and make non‑compensated referrals.”
“For special‑needs planning, don’t jeopardize need‑based benefits—use the right trust so support continues.
“I want to build a sustainable practice that lets me serve my community and rest well, aligned with my family and values.”
Quick Action Items (for listeners inspired by the episode)
Draft or update POAs (financial and health) for every adult in the household, including college‑age children.
Evaluate whether a revocable living trust makes sense to avoid probate and retain post‑death control.
For business owners: review operating agreement / buy‑sell, add key‑person insurance, and create a business POA.
Families with special‑needs dependents: consult on special‑needs trusts to protect benefits.
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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Yasmine Cheyenne.
📝 Summary of the Interview
Yasmine Cheyenne, an Air Force veteran, mental wellness advocate, and author, joined Rushion McDonald to discuss her journey from a disadvantaged upbringing to becoming a published author and wellness coach. She shared insights from her books—The Sugar Jar and her latest, Wisdom of the Path—which focus on boundaries, healing, and self-empowerment. The conversation explored her military experience, personal transformation, and how she helps others confront fear and reclaim their lives.
🔑 Key Takeaways 1. Overcoming Fear and Taking Risks
Fear of failure and disappointment keeps many people stuck.
Yasmine encourages people to confront fear and take action anyway.
Her own decision to join the Air Force was a leap of faith that changed her life.
2. Military Discipline and Life Lessons
The Air Force taught her discipline, consistency, and resilience.
She applies these lessons to her personal and professional life.
Quote: “Do you want to bet on yourself? Be willing to believe in yourself.”
3. Writing as Empowerment
Her first book, The Sugar Jar, focuses on boundaries and self-care.
Her second book, Wisdom of the Path, is about using past experiences as wisdom, not shame.
Writing helped her transform her life and inspire others from similar backgrounds.
4. Boundaries and Self-Prioritization
Without boundaries, people become overwhelmed and resentful.
Saying “no” and advocating for yourself is essential to mental wellness.
Quote: “We have to get comfortable letting people be disappointed with us.”
5. Redefining “Selfish”
Being selfish is often misunderstood.
Prioritizing yourself is necessary for success and well-being.
Quote: “Every successful person has had to be selfish at some point.”
6. Wisdom of the Path
The book encourages readers to trust their instincts and take the next step.
It’s not a checklist—it’s a collection of relatable stories and reflections.
Quote: “Use those experiences that you’re judging yourself for as wisdom to help you move forward.”
7. Mental Wellness Practice
Yasmine helps people through coaching, writing, and speaking.
She emphasizes healing through storytelling and shared experiences.
8. Accessibility
Her books are available in print, digital, and audio formats.
She personally narrates the audiobook version of Wisdom of the Path.
💬 Notable Quotes
“Even if things fail, you have what it takes to get yourself to where you want to be.”
“Take the meat and leave the bone.”
“You already know what the next step is. What would happen if you just took it?”
“We’ve been an enemy toward ourselves for years and don’t even realize it.”
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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Anthony Tuggle.
Senior executive, transformational advisor, and founder/CEO of Tag Us Worldwide. With more than 30 years of leading global operations at AT\&T and other Fortune 10 organizations, Tuggle shares lessons in leadership, resilience, corporate success, personal health battles, entrepreneurship, and the importance of emotional intelligence in the AI era.
His story blends professional excellence with survival, detailing how he overcame kidney failure, a transplant, dialysis, and even kidney cancer—while simultaneously rising to the executive ranks and later launching his own leadership transformation company.
🎯 Purpose of the Interview
The interview’s goals were to:
1. Highlight Anthony Tuggle’s leadership journey
From a corporate executive managing global teams to the CEO of Tag Us Worldwide.
2. Share actionable insights on corporate success and leadership development
He explains the importance of foundation, consistency, emotional intelligence, and taking care of people.
3. Discuss the importance of DEI and equitable leadership
Tuggle emphasizes why diverse backgrounds, and diverse thoughts build strong companies.
4. Reveal the personal health challenges that shaped his perspective
His story serves as instruction, caution, and motivation.
5. Promote Tag Us Worldwide
A transformation consultancy helping organizations elevate culture and leadership.
💡 Key Takeaways
1. Success Requires Hard Work, Foundation & Intentionality
Success is not accidental.
Tuggle stresses:
Education (undergrad + MBA from Emory’s Goizueta Business School)
Moving 12 times across the country for opportunities
Consistency and showing up
“Stay ready so you don’t have to get ready” is one of his core principles.
2. Leadership = Taking Care of People
Tuggle explains that high-performing organizations have one thing in common:
Leaders take care of people, and people take care of the business.
He built a reputation for developing leaders who now lead in Fortune 50 companies.
3. Understanding the Rules of the Game Matters
Whether you’re an entrepreneur or corporate professional, there are rules:
Professionalism
Performance
Relationship building
Consistency
Respecting organizational culture
Many people fail because they enter the “game” without learning its rules.
4. DEI and Access Are Non-Negotiable for Strong Organizations
Tuggle is a firm supporter of diversity, equity, inclusion, both in culture and thought.
He says he would not be where he is today without people giving him a chance.
5. His Corporate Career Was Truly Global
He managed large teams across:
The Philippines
Costa Rica
Mexico
This global lens influences his approach to transformation and scaling businesses.
6. His Health Journey Defines His Resilience
Anthony Tuggle's story is extraordinary:
• Kidney failure in his 20s
Doctor told him he “should be dead.”
Caused by untreated hypertension.
• 25-year kidney transplant survivor
He received a deceased donor kidney and outlived the typical 10–15-year expectancy—twice.
• Kidney transplant failed again after 25 years
He returned to dialysis (hemodialysis → peritoneal dialysis).
• Kidney cancer diagnosis—found early
While preparing for another transplant, doctors discovered kidney cancer caused by long-term immunosuppressant medications.
He survived it: stage 1, noninvasive.
These challenges fuel his drive, urgency, and refusal to waste life.
7. Faith Was His Anchor Throughout
When diagnosed with kidney failure, he got on his knees and prayed.
He says God told him, “We're not done.”
This became his mantra for survival and purpose. [
8. Tag Us Worldwide: “Together Achieving Greatness”
His company focuses on:
Leadership transformation
Cultural elevation
Organizational outcomes
Preparing leaders for the AI-powered future
Tag Us delivers impact through:
Real-world corporate experience
AI-enhanced strategy
Emotional intelligence coaching
Business transformation frameworks
He blends AI + EQ, insisting companies should never rely on AI alone.
9. AI Won’t Replace Humans—But Humans Who Use AI Will Win
Tuggle led an AI organization for four years, and his stance is clear:
AI is here to stay
The “secret sauce” is people
Leaders must embrace change, not fear it
Emotional intelligence will enhance AI outcomes
10. Legacy = Family + Leadership + Service
He emphasizes shaping his daughter’s worldview and standards.
She graduated with honors from USC’s Marshall Business School.
He believes leaders should create environments where people can win—and that is his mission.
🗣 Notable Quotes (with citations) On success
“I didn’t just wake up and look like this—I put in the hard work.” [
On leadership
“If you take care of your people, they take care of you.”
On preparation
“Stay ready—we don’t have to get ready.” [
On DEI
“You need diversity of color but also diversity of thought.”
On fear
“I faced many obstacles throughout my life… fear becomes motivation.” [
On AI
“Good leaders embrace change. Great leaders inspire change.” [
On resilience
“I am highly favored… I’ve beaten the odds twice.” [
On purpose
“My passion is leadership; my purpose is changing lives.” [
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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Jasmine Hood
Founder of Better Bodies Massage in Atlanta (originally from Greenville, South Carolina), joined Rushion McDonald on Money Making Conversations Masterclass to share her journey from CNA to licensed massage therapist, the realities of being a traveling service provider, and the wellness benefits of massage therapy.
She discusses body alignment, stress, trauma release, the differences between massage modalities, alternative treatments like cupping, entrepreneurship during COVID‑19, safety considerations for mobile therapists, corporate/wellness partnerships, and her long‑term goal of building a scalable massage brand supported by contractors.
🎯 Purpose of the Interview
The interview aims to:
Highlight how massage therapy supports physical and emotional wellness, including stress, posture, and pain relief.
Educate listeners on the types of massages, proper stretching techniques, and how body tension accumulates.
Explore entrepreneurship in the wellness space, including launching a business during COVID‑19.
Discuss safety and professionalism in mobile massage therapy.
Show how Jasmine is building a sustainable small business through networking, corporate events, and contractor partnerships.
🔑 Key Takeaways 1. Career Shift & Fearless Beginnings
Jasmine switched from working as a CNA to moving to Atlanta alone with no support system—motivated by a desire for change and inspired by her mother’s independence.
She emphasized overcoming fear and taking leaps even when circumstances are uncertain.
2. Massage Therapy Is Both Physical & Emotional Healing
Massage releases tension, trauma, and stress stored in the body, especially in the neck, shoulders, and lower back.
Many people carry pain from work, daily habits, or emotional strain—and massage helps restore balance.
3. The Three Most Popular Massage Types
Jasmine explained the differences clearly:
Swedish Massage — Gentle, relaxing, ideal for beginners and stress relief.
Deep Tissue — Targets chronic pain and trigger points but may be intense for clients who are not accustomed to it.
Sports Massage — Faster movements, stretching, and ideal for athletes.
She stressed that deep tissue should not be rushed—the muscle needs warming before intense pressure.
4. Stretching Is Critical—Most People Do It Wrong
Stretching should be held 30 seconds to 1 minute, not quick movements or rolling the neck.
Consistent stretching prevents the “tight forward lean” posture many people develop.
Lower‑body stretches (glutes, hamstrings, hips) dramatically improve back pain.
5. Travel Massage: Safety, Boundaries & Professionalism
Jasmine screens new clients by phone before accepting appointments.
She immediately declines inappropriate requests (e.g., sexualized services).
She only sees first‑time clients during daylight and shares her location with trusted contacts.
She maintains a clear, therapeutic-only brand despite public misconceptions.
6. Entrepreneurship Journey & Business Model
She built her business during COVID‑19, initially offering lower prices, then raising them as her brand grew.
Corporate wellness events and golf tournaments became a major revenue stream.
She hires contractors to scale for events.
Her long‑term goal is “mailbox money”—a business run by a team while she steps away from hands-on work.
7. Alternative Treatment: Cupping Therapy
Cupping uses suction to pull stagnant blood, loosen muscle tissue, and improve circulation.
Cups can remain stationary or be moved along the back to flush tension.
8. The Jasmine Experience
Sessions are designed around clients’ comfort, in their own homes, with their preferred music and ambiance.
Post‑massage, clients can immediately rest—no stress of getting dressed or driving home.
🗣️ Notable Quotes ✔ On taking risks
“I just jumped up and moved. I didn’t know anyone… I just said I’m going to start over.”

✔ On stress in the body
“We all carry trauma. When you’re stressed, it all ends up in your body.”

✔ On deep tissue massage
“If it gets to be too much, let me know. Don’t be afraid to speak up.”

✔ On stretching
“If you don’t use it, you’re going to lose it.”

✔ On business growth
“Some days are easy and some days are like… alright, don’t know. But you keep going.”

✔ On long‑term goals
“I don’t plan on being hands-on forever. The goal is to build my brand and have a team I can send out—like Amazon.”

#SHMS #STRAW #BEST
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