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  • Johan du Preez, Impact Investor, on Blending Giving and Investments to Tackle Poverty (Ep. 146)
    Johan du Preez is a seasoned South African entrepreneur and investor, and the Founder of SAAD Investment Holdings and the Tree of Life Foundation. Johan began his career path as a pharmacist in his early twenties and spent many years managing pharmacies that needed major turnaround. He then became the CEO of a large healthcare organization before the Spirit led him to start his investment company with a focus on impacting the Kingdom of God.   Johan brings a unique perspective as a faith-driven leader who channels private equity investment returns into longterm, sustainable generosity through an investment firm contained within a charitable foundation. From leading major corporate turnarounds to pioneering innovative giving platforms in South Africa, Johan’s life and work exemplify the intersection of strategic investing and radical generosity.   Major topics include: Johan’s early life and faith background How becoming a pharmacist laid the foundations for what he does today Integrating faith into business and money management Strategically operating from the spirit realm in money and business Realizing that money can help build God’s kingdom The story of SAAD and the Tree of Life Foundation What it looks like to let God own your business Transitioning from health care insurance to financial services  The difference between working with God and letting God work through you Taking risks in Kingdom business Depending on God when you don’t know what you’re doing Investments that make an impact through business Weighing “return first” and “impact first” investing Using charitable capital through a donor advised fund The beauty of collective giving Thinking through investing versus giving How to leverage all that you have to be a part of what God’s doing QUOTES TO REMEMBER “There’s only one way to be strategic, that is to operate in the spiritual realm. Otherwise, you are just reactive and tactical.” “The eternal perspective is ultimately the one that saves you.” “For God to work through you, you have to be dead.” “When you involve God in your business and make it His business and say, ‘I’m just here to work for You,’ then you actually complicate it to a large extent because you had better make sure that you know what the Shareholder wants.” “God is more interested in the character of the individuals that are involved in the company than about the results at the end of the day.” “We are called to take risks for the Kingdom.” “The best decisions I’ve ever made were based on what I did not know.” “Collaboration is everyone exchanging their personal dreams for one larger dream.” LINKS FROM THE SHOW SAAD Investment Holdings Tree of Life Foundation National Christian Foundation (see our interview with President Emeritus, David Wills) Trustbridge Global (see our interview with Executive VP, Paul Bolte here) The Finish Line Community Facebook Group The Finish Line Community LinkedIn Group   WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU! If you have a thought about something you heard, or a story to share, please reach out! You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn. You can also contact us directly from our contact page. If you want to engage with the Finish Line Community, check out our groups on Facebookand LinkedIn.
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  • Stan Reiff, Nonprofit Consultant at CapinCrouse, on God’s Provision in the Life of Faith (Ep. 145)
    Stan Reiff, CPA and nonprofit consultant at CapinCrouse, has seen the faithfulness of God in difficult circumstances firsthand. Stan was born on the mission field, and in his early twenties, he and his wife felt called to missions like the generations before him. But Stan soon realized that the life of ministry that he was called to would look nothing like the life he had imagined. After many years of traumatic and costly circumstances, Stan was led on a journey that would take him from missionary to teacher to CPA and from Alaska to Atlanta where God would use his missions experience and accounting background to serve many nonprofits.    At CapinCrouse, Stan helps faith-based nonprofits strengthen their governance, strategy, and operations, and his mission-field experience provides a deep personal understanding of ministry challenges to his consulting work. He previously served as Chief Operating Officer at Crown Financial Ministries and now draws on over 35 years of experience to help organizations thrive with integrity and purpose.    Stan is also passionate about leading his family in a legacy of generosity, Kingdom work, and entrepreneurship, and he is full of practical wisdom to guide people into doing the same in their own families.   Major topics include: Stan’s remarkable backstory of faith and missions work in Alaska Navigating traumatic events and a crisis of faith Pivoting into bivocational ministry  Becoming CPA through Alaska Game and Fish Volunteering as budget coaches and seminar instructors with Crown Became chief financial officer at Crown Financial after 20 years volunteering Establishing rhythms and protocols for executive sabbaticals  Helping CFM transition from radio to sharing principle world wide Story of coming to work for CapinCrouse  Personal takeaways from leaders in the generosity space Their family’s journey to a financial finish line Equipping kids and grandkids for generosity  Developing family core values Their “family legacy experiment” What to look for in an organization as a donor QUOTES TO REMEMBER “If I can’t be on the front lines of ministry in a remote setting, then I will be part of the supply chain, and I will do the best I possibly can to help those who can go and are willing to go to have the best administrative support possible.” “In many ways, I had to give up my passion to be a full time missionary and that was really difficult spiritually. But I came to understand that God had chosen to give us a child with disabilities, and that became my primary ministry.”  “I love that I get to continue to marry my passion for missions, for ministry, along with the accounting experiences that God’s given me, and I get to live the dream in an ongoing fashion.” “For me, the real learning came when I understood that God owns it all, not just the ten percent.” “Money really isn’t a big deal. You can lose all your money in a day, and you can get it all back in a day.” “Money is never the issue, it’s just an indicator of where the heart is.” “It’s one thing to have a legacy of faith that’s generations long, but it’s also exciting to be in that first or second generation. It comes back to our first guiding principle, that faith has to be personal and it has to be yours, not some family member’s that’s preceded you.” “Kingdom expands when you have more followers of Jesus who are committed to following Him in business, ministry or a combination. But it takes all of us working together to make sure the next generation is equally as passionate, committed, and engaged in Kingdom work.” LINKS FROM THE SHOW CapinCrouse Injoy Stewardship Solutions Crown Financial Ministries National Christian Foundation (see our interview with President Emeritus, David Wills) Ronald Blue and Co., CPA (see our interview with founder, Ron Blue) The Finish Line Community Facebook Group The Finish Line Community LinkedIn Group BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW Philippians 4:12-13 | The Secret of Being Content I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. I can do all this through him who gives me strength. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU! If you have a thought about something you heard, or a story to share, please reach out! You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn. You can also contact us directly from our contact page. If you want to engage with the Finish Line Community, check out our groups on Facebookand LinkedIn.
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  • Jennifer Holloran, President & CEO of the American Bible Society, on the Life-Changing Power of the Bible to Heal Communities (Ep. 144)
    Jennifer Holloran, President and CEO of the American Bible Society, is an avid lover of Scripture and an expert in strategic leadership, operational excellence, and innovation. Jennifer was raised in a Christian home with lots of exposure to the Word, but it was in college that she learned to approach Scripture as a source of grace instead of condemnation. Jennifer’s career took an unexpected turn after college when God led her to combine her professional skills and love for the Scriptures at Wycliffe Bible Translators. She spent over twenty years there, starting as a typist and eventually becoming Chief Operating Officer before taking over as CEO of the American Bible Society.   The American Bible Society has a rich history dating back to 1816, and is involved in nearly every aspect of Bible work, from translation to global distribution to engagement and advocacy. Jennifer has an amazing perspective on the power of God’s Word, how it is moving in the world today, and how the Church can help people everywhere be transformed as they get more engaged with the Scriptures.   Major Topics Include: Jennifer’s faith and career journey How she fell in love with Scripture Her surprise introduction to Bible translation through Wycliffe Leadership principles in unexpected Bible stories How God prepared her for work at American Bible Society An overview of American Bible Society’s 209 year history Helping people engage in the Scriptures  ABS’s framework of access, engagement, and advocacy Various aspects of Scripture access Their “end-to-end” process—a multimodal approach to Bible access and engagement The story and heart behind the ABS Trauma Healing Institute  Helping people overcome barriers to Scripture Finding solutions to inspire younger generations to engage with Scripture AI as a tool for Bible engagement How to move from Bible engagement to advocacy Creativity in Bible distribution in hard-to-reach places Effectiveness of a collective impact alliance in reaching Bible distribution goals QUOTES TO REMEMBER “It wasn’t long after I finished college that God brought me to Wycliffe Bible Translators, and that opened up a whole world of understanding Scripture in a completely new way.” “I found that the more that I began to dig into Scripture, the more there was to discover.” “We want to move people from that place of just having access to the Bible and have them step into engagement, and that starts with curiosity.” “Today, we at the American Bible Society still get to be involved in translation and distribution, but we’re looking at the whole Scripture engagement journey and how we can come alongside the Church to support the ministry of helping people to take the next step with Scripture.” “We need to understand where Gen Z and Gen Alpha are coming from and what speaks to them as unique groups with unique values, preferences, and barriers that might keep them from Scripture. Then we can work together with the Church to help co-create solutions to reach that generation.” “There’s something amazing about having the Bible as a foundation that we can come together and have conversation around and learn from one another across faith traditions.” “Our vision is ‘God’s Word transforming all people.’ That’s what I want to see happening, and I think the more we can get the Church engaged and we can work together on this, I believe that it’s possible.” LINKS FROM THE SHOW Julie Wilson, President of Women Doing Well (see our past interview here) American Bible Society Wycliffe Bible Translators (see our interview with CEO John Chesnut) The Digital Bible Library Audio Video Translation Tool Jesus Film Project (see our interview with Executive Director Josh Newell) LUMO Project Films Faith Comes by Hearing (see our interview with VP Morgan Jackson) Talking Bibles International Trauma Healing Institute IllumiNations Bible Translation Alliance (see our interview with Todd Peterson or John Chesnut) ETEN Innovation Lab The Finish Line Community Facebook Group The Finish Line Community LinkedIn Group BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW Matthew 13:1-23 | Parable of the Sower WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU! If you have a thought about something you heard, or a story to share, please reach out! You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn. You can also contact us directly from our contact page. If you want to engage with the Finish Line Community, check out our groups on Facebookand LinkedIn.
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  • Laura Gish, VP for Prayer and Advancement at Mission Mutual, on the Synergy of Collective Impact Alliances (Ep. 143)
    Laura Gish, VP for Prayer and Advancement at Mission Mutual, is a prayer leader and mobilizer of givers and intercessors in collective impact spaces. Laura was raised in a faith-filled home and felt an exceptional call to prayer and the Bible in her early teens. Through her father’s job, Laura was deeply connected to the Bible translation space from a young age and was able to witness the evolution of the illumiNations impact alliance to what it is today. In her early career, Laura served at Seed Company where she helped to spearhead a prayer movement which saw huge breakthroughs in the field and in funding.   That experience led her to Mission Mutual which serves as a backbone for multiple impact alliances in a variety of impact spaces. She has an incredible perspective on being founded and rooted in prayer, personally and as an organization, and the necessity of collaboration in the Great Commission arena. You won’t want to miss all she had to share!   Major topics include: Laura’s early life, faith background, and early career The story of Seed Company’s donor funded prayer program Laura’s favorite outcomes from the prayer program Helping organizations develop a foundation of prayer The unique power of a collective impact alliance Key characteristics of a collective impact framework The story and vision of Mission Mutual Differences between a giving fund and an impact alliance What is a backbone service provider? Multiplying ROI in the Kingdom through collaboration  Why collaboration matters to donors Best practices for an alliance  Structuring a practice of prayer as the center point of alliance culture Raising up nearly 350,000 intercessors in the ETEN collective impact alliance Next steps for a giver to move toward an impact alliance What’s happening beyond Bible translation Creating a community giving circle QUOTES TO REMEMBER “When God says go, you just go.” “As we give to something, our heart expands. And as we pray for something, it grows our heart to want to give.” “Prayer is not just a strategy. It is the strategy.” “Prayer is the catalyst for intimacy with God.” “Look at what God can do when we put aside our individual logos and agendas, and we pursue the collective power of what partnership can be when it’s united under a vision God has given His people to pursue and it’s rooted in prayer.”  “Generosity begets generosity.” “When we yoke together in unity, the collective impact capacity isn’t just doubled, it’s exponentially expanded.” “Prayer is one of the most generous things we can offer.” “God changes our hearts when we pray.” “Be a faithful steward of the brokenness that God has planted inside of you.” LINKS FROM THE SHOW Mission Mutual  Seed Company (see our interview with CEO, Davis Powell) IllumiNations Bible Translation Alliance (see our interview with Todd Peterson or John Chesnut) Every Tribe Every Nation (ETEN) ACHIEVE (A Church in Every Village Everywhere) Close the Bible Gap The Finish Line Community Facebook Group The Finish Line Community LinkedIn Group BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW Psalm 127:1a | The Lord Builds the House   Unless the Lord builds the house, those who build it labor in vain.   John 17:21 | Oneness in the Church   that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me.   Isaiah 60:3 | Drawn to Your Light   And nations shall come to your light, and kings to the brightness of your rising.   Ecclesiastes 4:12b | Strength in Unity   a threefold cord is not quickly broken.   Mark 16:15 | The Great Commission And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU! If you have a thought about something you heard, or a story to share, please reach out! You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn. You can also contact us directly from our contact page. If you want to engage with the Finish Line Community, check out our groups on Facebookand LinkedIn.
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  • Brian Cochran, Financial Advisor, on Helping Clients Give Big and Give Efficiently (Ep. 142)
    Brian Cochran, CFP and Certified Kingdom Advisor, leads John Moore Associates, a nationally respected advisory firm known for its integration of biblical wisdom and financial strategy. After beginning his career as an educator, Brian was mentored by the firm’s founder, John Moore, before stepping into leadership and continuing the firm’s mission to help families steward their wealth with eternal purpose.   John Moore Associates stands out for its deeply rooted emphasis on generosity—equipping clients not just to give more, but to give with greater clarity, joy, and impact. Under Brian’s leadership, the firm has cultivated a unique culture where values-based planning and practical financial advice go hand in hand.   Brian offers powerful frameworks that help givers align their financial decisions with their deepest convictions. More importantly, he lives out what he teaches—modeling the joy and contentment that come from a generous life.   Major Topics Include: Brian’s personal and spiritual background His journey from education to faith-based financial planning Coming to the intersection of faith and finance The great impact of John Moore’s mentorship Contentment as the start of good money management  Advice for finding contentment Frameworks for implementing contentment in personal and business finances Creating a culture of generosity with associates and clients The significance of tracking clients’ giving The problem of over-saving  Addressing the spiritual side of scarcity mindset Giving opportunities through tax liabilities Honoring God with your assets and income QUOTES TO REMEMBER “Contentment is a key step to generosity.” “Contentment comes with more satisfaction than always striving for more.” “Can I continue to see all the abundance around me that other people have but say that I don’t need it?” “Allowing and encouraging clients to give away the assets that we would otherwise manage and charge fees on is very counter-cultural and counter-intuitive, but it’s the best part of what we do.” “When you oversave, you not only miss opportunities for giving, but you miss opportunities for living.” “I’ve never met somebody who said that one of their financial goals was to be greedy, and you fight greed with generosity.” “It’s way more fun to see a client give away seven figures than it is to see someone go through retirement or pay for their kid’s college education. Those things are great, but watching people satisfy generosity goals is where it’s at, and sometimes it takes dozens of conversations to get there.” LINKS FROM THE SHOW John Moore Associates Kingdom Advisors (see our interview with founder, Ron Blue) Russ Crosson (see our past interview here) National Christian Foundation (see our interview with President Emeritus, David Wills) The Finish Line Community Facebook Group The Finish Line Community LinkedIn Group BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW 1 Timothy 6:6-7 | Godly Contentment   But godliness with contentment is great gain, for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world.   Proverbs 3:9 | Honor God with Income and Finances Honor the Lord with your wealth and with the firstfruits of all your produce; WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU! If you have a thought about something you heard, or a story to share, please reach out! You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn. You can also contact us directly from our contact page. If you want to engage with the Finish Line Community, check out our groups on Facebookand LinkedIn.
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Kealan, a surgeon, and Cody, a financial advisor, discuss the intersection of faith, generosity, and personal finance. They’re joined by a variety of guests, including pastors, financial advisors, radically generous givers, entrepreneurs, CEOs, and nonprofit leaders to explore one central question: How do we best steward God’s wealth? On The Finish Line Podcast, you’ll hear challenging and inspirational stories of tremendous generosity. You’ll also learn from experts in multiple fields about topics like setting a financial finish line, giving efficiently and effectively, and teaching generosity to your children. More than anything, though, you’ll see how God is constantly at work redeeming the world He created and loves. Visit the website at www.finishlinepledge.com to learn more.
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