The Futur with Chris Do

Joanna Wiebe invented conversion copywriting, and after eight years of barely-there YouTube growth, she grew her channel 3,000% in three months. She demonstrates the problem-agitate-solution and desire-obstacle-solution frameworks live with Chris, argues that voice of customer data beats clever taglines every time, and outlines the three-part moat she's building against AI: a book, YouTube, and stages. She also names the mistake founders make when they hire someone to fix a problem they should be solving themselves, and makes the case for personality over polish in a world where AI can summarize anything.

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Intro

(01:20) - Who Is Joanna Wiebe

(03:13) - Conversion vs Direct Response Copywriting

(04:07) - Problem, Agitate, Solution (PAS) Framework

(08:16) - Desire, Obstacle, Solution (DOS) Framework

(10:16) - YouTube Channel Turnaround Story

(16:00) - 3000% YouTube Growth in 3 Months

(19:44) - Building a Content Moat Against AI

(22:15) - Personality as an AI-Proof Moat

(26:36) - Quality Over Frequency Content Strategy

Check out today's guest, Joanna Wiebe:

CopyHackers' website: https://copyhackers.com/

Joanna's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@joanna-wiebe

Joanna's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealjoannawiebe/

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Brooke Hopper is Adobe’s first Senior Principal Designer, and one of the people building Firefly from the inside. She tells Chris why Adobe licenses every image it trains on and pays the artists behind it, why she still gets bad results out of the tool she helped build, and why she's skeptical anyone should learn taste from a machine. She makes the case for designing for "intentional friction" instead of removing it, defines what agentic AI means past the buzzword, and names what she wants gen AI to do for designers: less content generated for its own sake, more time spent on the ideas they're genuinely excited about.

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Intro

(01:33) - Brooke Hopper's Path at Adobe

(03:26) - The Firefly Love-Hate Relationship

(04:58) - Where AI Helps the Creative Process

(09:55) - Intentional Friction in Creative Tools

(14:41) - AI Patterns and Breaking the Rules

(16:27) - Can AI Teach You Design Taste

(20:51) - What Is Agentic AI

(23:18) - Adobe's Five-Year AI Vision

Check out today's guest, Brooke Hopper:

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Adobe Firefly: https://firefly.adobe.com/

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John Lee went from selling prawn crackers and used game cartridges as a teenager to closing property deals with none of his own money, and eventually building a career across real estate, sales training, social media, and AI. In this conversation, Chris Do and John break down WIIFT (What's In It For Them), a mentor lesson that reframed John's failing investor pitches by moving the ask from "do you have the money" to "here's what's in it for you," turning years of rejection into funded deals. They also get into how to tell a real pivot from quitting too early, why doubt (not lack of skill) is what actually blocks people from making money, and John's case for AI as an amplifier of human wisdom rather than a replacement for it.

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Intro

(00:40) - Who Is John Lee

(02:32) - Money Unlocked Book

(03:15) - Childhood Hustle Story

(05:00) - CGI Animator to Real Estate

(09:24) - The WIIFT Pitch

(11:09) - No-Money Property Deals

(12:28) - Multi-Passionate Career Philosophy

(17:25) - Demand, Joy, Money, Mission Matrix

(19:00) - AI and Job Displacement

(21:23) - Core Three Branding Framework

(24:28) - Doubt Is the Enemy

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Matt Essam, author of The Creative Studio Roadmap, joins Chris Do for a live episode recorded in front of a studio audience to break down the pillars of turning a solo creative business into one that scales: differentiation, communication, and delivery. Chris and Matt pull audience members into the hot seat to work through real pricing blocks, story-driven positioning, and the shift from selling yourself to selling your process, live and in real time.

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Intro

(01:02) - Freelancer vs Business Owner

(03:10) - Charging By The Job

(05:37) - What Are Phantom Loops

(09:14) - Coaching Ray On Pricing

(13:49) - Differentiate Through Your Story

(15:25) - The River Of Life Exercise

(18:27) - Hector's Hot Seat Story

(25:39) - Sell Symptoms Not Services

(35:13) - Selling Process Not People

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Matt's Book The Creative Studio Roadmap: https://a.co/d/0cqv7qwK

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Dr. Justin Sung was a practicing physician before he became one of the most-watched learning coaches online, and in this conversation he takes apart the biggest myth people believe about how they learn: that everyone has a fixed "learning style" they should lean into. Justin walks Chris through what actually drives fast, durable learning: the discomfort of overwhelm, the discipline of turning confusion into questions, and why understanding something is not the same as remembering it. They get into how this applies to neurodivergent learners, what makes a great teacher versus a great instructor, and why the hardest, least visible part of building any skill is the part right before you start seeing results.

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Intro

(00:28) - Learning Styles Myth

(03:15) - From Doctor To Learning Coach

(04:40) - How To Learn Anything Faster

(08:42) - Turn Uncertainty Into Questions

(11:56) - Building Your Knowledge Schema

(13:34) - Learning vs The Feeling Of Learning

(15:11) - Learning With Dyslexia

(18:26) - Why Great Speakers Fail To Teach

(21:55) - Learner-Centric Teaching Method

(24:53) - The Socratic Teaching Method

(25:35) - Subclinical Symptoms Of Skill Growth

(29:15) - Overcoming Fear Of Mistakes

(30:30) - How Justin Reads To Retain

(33:00) - The Hypercorrection Effect

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Justin's LinkedIn: https://nz.linkedin.com/in/justin-sung

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