Beating Bitcoin at Scale with Directional Crypto Strategies | Sam Gaer of Monarq Asset Management
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Sam Gaer, CIO of Directional Strategies at Monarq Asset Management, joins Other People’s Money to discuss how he uses quantitative directional strategies to trade crypto assets and produce an institutional quality return stream that has outperformed bitcoin at scale. He explains how his experience as a market maker, executive, and self-taught electronic exchange technologist driving some of the most important technological advances in finance led him to “burn the boats,” leave tradfi, and go all in on building institutional crypto strategies with Monarq. He also discusses how institutional appetite for crypto hedge fund strategies is growing with increased regulatory clarity, greater availability of institutional level funds, and evolving market opportunities in crypto-native and crypto-linked tradfi assets.
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Timestamps
00:00 Intro
01:43 Q4 Crypto Volatility
06:21 A Disappointing Year for Crypto Bulls
10:29 Taking Advantage of Extreme Volatility
12:50 Triple Barrier Risk Management
15:43 $REMX
16:26 Responsible Leverage
17:17 Is the 4-Year Cycle Over
21:55 Early Days Pit Trading
24:16 Building Electronic Exchange Technology
26:38 CEO of NYMEX Europe and NYMEX IPO
27:24 Move to FINRA
28:43 Building and Selling a Volatility Hedge Fund
29:15 Burn the Boats
32:14 Joining Monarq
37:14 Differences Between Crypto Fund Managers and TradFi
39:17 Institutional Adoption of Crypto Hedge Funds
44:27 Can Crypto Strategies Scale to Meet the Demand?
47:19 The Crypto TradFi Collision
49:57 The Difference Between Institutional and Non-institutional Quality Crypto Funds
54:13 Hyper Liquid and Other Market Improvements in Crypto
59:26 Will TradFi Take Over Crypto?
01:01:31 Digital Asset Treasuries
01:08:46 The Next Stage for Monarq
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Venture Capital’s Collision with Public Markets, the Dry Powder Bubble, and VC Metrics that Lie | James Wang of Creative Ventures
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James Wang, General Partner at Creative Ventures and author of “What You Need to Know About AI” joins Other People’s Money to discuss the most pressing issues facing venture capital right now including: VC’s collision with public markets, the “RIAifaction” of VC firms, and the reality that there is still too much dry powder propping up venture valuations. Wang also discusses the difficulty of judging VC funds off of typical metrics like MOIC and TVPI, especially when the fund is still in the middle of its life cycle. Wang closes the podcast with his views on AI as expressed in his new book and the reasons why he believes many are being distracted by first-order effects.
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Timestamps
00:00 Intro
01:22 The Collision of Public and Private Markets
04:13 Venture Capital is Following the Same Path as Other Asset Classes
05:52 Venture's Shifting Role in Portfolios
13:36 Venture Capital Emerging Managers
18:39 Corporate Venture Capital
20:58 The Most Active Venture LPs
22:45 Sovereign Wealth Funds and Strategic Venture
26:56 RIAs and Private Wealth as the Next Source of Capital
31:58 The Emergence of Star Athletes and Actors as VCs
33:41 Most VCs Don't Add Value to Portfolio Companies
35:31 Comparing VC Funds: The Metrics That Lie
43:32 Sneaky VC Marketing Tricks and Marketing Materials
48:33 Reference Checks and Speaking with Founders
50:17 The Dry Powder Bubble
57:41 What You Need to Know About AI
59:47 Tracking AI Progress
01:03:42 The Politics of AI
01:07:32 The Next Stage of Training AI Models
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Can Alpha Capture Save Fundamental Long/Short Equity? | David Stemerman CenterBook Partners
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Fundamental long-short equity investing has been in decline with fewer new fund launches and dwindling assets, but David Stemerman, CEO, CIO and Co-founder of CenterBook Partners believes data clearly shows these investors still have significant investing skill. He argues that single manger hedge fund data collected using alpha capture can be used to construct new portfolios and strategies that will be more attractive for institutional investors. Through a combination of direct payments, data sharing, and partnering with single managers on custom strategies he believes that that alpha capture can revitalize single manager hedge funds. Not all alpha capture strategies are made equal though and one of the biggest problems he is trying to solve is convincing managers and their LPs that alpha capture can be done without harming the returns of the manager.
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Timestamps
00:00 Intro
00:40 Fiscal.ai
01:34 Single Manager & Tiger Cub Origins
02:45 Fundamental Long Short Equity Under Pressure
07:21 History of Alpha Capture
09:07 Responsible Alpha Capture
16:40 Fiscal.ai
17:58 Why Don’t Managers Adapt to Allocator Demands?
26:48 CenterBook's Current Alpha Capture Strategy
33:14 How Do You Manage External Partners?
35:38 Reactions From LPs at Partner Funds
39:46 Types of Allocators Are Interested in Alpha Capture?
41:53 Types of Managers Partnering with CenterBook
43:04 Is Alpha Theory a Requirement?
46:03 Scale Limits for CenterBook
48:39 Do Most Managers Have Skill?
53:15 Active Extension: The Future of Active Management?
01:03:13 Timeline for Single Manager Active Extensions
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Why Beating the Market Isn’t Enough for Investment Managers | Corey Hoffstein
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Corey Hoffstein, CEO and CIO of Newfound Research and co-founder and PM of Return Stacked ETFs, joins OPM to discuss his journey in the investment management business. He argues that beating the market is a commoditized value proposition and that investment managers need to solve other problems for their clients to attract assets. He also discusses his experience licensing research to other asset managers, his belief that distribution is the key question of success in the asset management business, and how quantitative research and other forms of content like podcasts and social media can help build brand awareness.
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Timestamps
00:00 Intro
00:27 Fiscal AI
01:16 The Difference Between Quant and Systematic Investing
03:18 Can Market Bubbles Be Measured?
05:05 Is Market Timing a Good Bet?
09:31 Evolving Risk Premia and Market Inefficiencies
16:41 Fiscal AI
18:20 Beginnings in Investment Management
23:04 Licensing Indexes to Other Managers
27:35 Providing Education Materials
31:26 Moving Into Asset Management
36:47 Evolving into Current Strategies
40:06 Thinking About the Investment Product Wrapper
43:11 Asset Management vs Investment Management
47:27 Solving Behavioral Finance Problems and Market Problems
51:28 Different Ways of Using Leverage
52:41 Knowing Your Client Base Isn’t Institutional
55:45 Content Creation and Brand Building
59:27 Growing an Audience: What Financial Content Goes Viral?
01:04:27 Dealing with Compliance and Education
01:07:22 How To Read and Interpret Quantitative Research as a Normie
01:12:22 How Is AI Being Used by Quants?
01:15:48 Conclusion
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This Hedge Fund Trying to Become the Top Pod Shop in Crypto is Rethinking the Multi-Manager Hedge Fund Model | Anatoly Crachilov of Nickel Digital
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Anatoly Crachilov, CEO and Co-Founder of Nickel Digital Asset Management, joins Other People’s Money to discuss why crypto is the perfect asset class for the multi-manager pod shop model. He also explains how Nickel is taking a “West Berlin” approach to partnering with external traders compared to the “East Berlin” approach of many traditional pod shops where non-competes and strict control of IP is the norm. He also discusses why 2025 has been a difficult year for crypto traders, how their team is managing the choppy markets, and how scaled up pods and incubation stage pods managed the extreme volatility in October.
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Timestamps
00:00 Intro
00:38 CAIA.nxt
01:24 Multi-Manager Origin Story
03:12 No Central Book or Alpha Capture
04:32 Expanding Number of Pods
06:15 Technology Enabled Growth
10:09 Onboarding a New Pod
14:38 Benefits of Crypto's Infinite Divisibility
15:58 CAIA.nxt
16:54 Determining the Scalability of Strategies
18:03 Minimum & Maximum Pod Sizes at Scale
18:33 Measuring Risk Adjusted Returns
20:34 Pod Compensation and Fund Level Fees
24:43 Winning the War for Talent
29:29 Pods Can Be Independent Prop Shops and Single Managers
35:03 Demand for Crypto Multi-Manager Funds
39:02 Reducing Risk in Crypto with 3rd Party Settlement & Custodians
46:08 Crypto Still Has Low Liquidity
49:41 The Cost of Poor Trade Execution in Crypto
53:16 Current Environment for Crypto
58:22 Risk Management Adjustments in a Choppy Year
01:02:04 Different Testing Environments for New Pods
01:06:30 What Happens When a Scaled Pod Has a Drawdown?
01:09:35 Conclusion
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