Other People's Money with Max Wiethe

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Charles Lemonides, CIO and founder of ValueWorks LLC, joins Other People’s Money to discuss why the 18-year bull market still has room to run. Lemonides argues that we have not yet reached the explosive "liftoff" phase typical of late-stage bull markets and explains why the biggest gains often come right before the turn. He shares his strategy for finding "growth in value's clothing," highlighting high-upside opportunities in semiconductors, rideshare, delivery, and offshore energy. Plus, he breaks down where he sees extreme overvaluation in the market and breaks down his most compelling short positions.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:00 Are We in a Bubble?

04:14 Rates Growth and Bonds

07:04 Value Investing Reframed

09:37 Micron Peak Earnings Debate

11:20 Intel Foundry

15:24 Sarmaya LENS ETF

16:52 Sizing Themes and Diversifying

18:41 Undervalued Challengers: Lyft & Instacart

29:10 Energy Sector Setup

35:40 Portfolio Construction & Shorts

37:47 Shorting Texas Pacific Land Trust

41:24 Royalty Trusts and Mesabi

47:16 Retail Shorts: Casey’s & Grocers

52:43 AI Industrials, Quantum, & Aerospace

55:37 Offshore Wind and Conclusion

James Elbaor, Founder and Portfolio Manager at Marlton LLC joins OPM to discuss why the private credit boom is officially over. Elbaor explains how artificial intelligence is threatening the SaaS businesses that make up over half a trillion dollars of private credit exposure, while also detailing how liquidity gates are currently trapping investors in massive interval funds like BCRED. The discussion concludes by exploring lucrative upcoming merger opportunities in the public BDC space and analyzing why asset managers utilizing permanent capital vehicles are being rewarded with premium market multiples.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:42 Private Credit Redemptions Continue

07:03 IPO Window Shuts & Credit Fund M&A

15:28 AI Threat to SaaS Borrowers

16:51 Sponsor Message Plutus

18:17 Private Credit vs Private Equity

24:25 Systemic Risk and Wrappers

29:15 Public vs Private BDC Gap

34:46 Why Interval Funds List

39:44 Alt Managers Valuation Reset

43:33 Permanent Capital Explained

50:17 Hedge Funds vs Private Equity

54:41 Pershing Square Liquidity

01:04:17 Conclusion

Eric Wallerstein, Chief Macro Strategist at Clocktower Group, joins OPM to discuss why he sees substantial risk that the Fed is making a policy mistake by hiking into a supply shock that could cause a 2022 style bear market. He also explores the global coordination of rate hikes and why he believes the participation of lower growth economies like Canada indicate that this is a reaction to higher energy prices and not a substantially higher global neutral rate.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:56 Fed Hike and Higher for Longer

02:30 Oil Driving Global Yields

05:58 Canada and Global Neutral Rate

07:14 Energy Crisis and Degrowth Risks

08:44 Politicized Fed and Credibility

11:50 Neutral Rate and AI CapEx Boom

14:47 Inflation Outlook and Policy Mistakes

17:20 Plutus Sponsor Break

18:46 Key Data to Watch: Bank Lending

20:07 Doves vs Hawks and Fiscal Drag

23:30 2022 Style Bear Market Setup

25:56 What Could Invalidate the Thesis?

26:41 BOJ Hike and Yen Intervention

31:20 Korea Silicon Boom

35:43 Europe Under Pressure

39:25 Middle East Outlook

43:06 Midterm Issues: AI vs. Gas Prices

48:34 China Oil Strategy

52:10 Big Calls Wrap

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Jérémie Boyer, co-founder of Aurelion Research, joins OPM to give his outlook for 5 key commodities. He explains why after avoiding earlier downside volatility in gold he just got the buy signal he’s been waiting for, and why the longer-term AI driven bull thesis on copper is very real and happening now. He also gives his outlook for uranium, fertilizer, and oil and discusses how he and his partner turn commodity views into a portfolio of equities that is up over 100% since inception a little over 1-year ago.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

02:16 Why Gold Could Hit 5K

05:45 Geopolitics Over Rates

09:24 Portfolio Positioning

12:28 Managing Miner Cycles

16:26 Plutus

18:26 Bearish Oil & Fertilizer

20:28 Oil Thesis & China Inventories

33:23 Royalties as Exposure

36:07 Valuing Royalty Companies

42:48 Why Uranium Now

46:10 Uranium Contracts & Supply

51:10 Energy Security and Nuclear Buildout

54:31 Copper Bull Case in AI Era

01:00:05 Picking Copper Stocks

01:06:43 Five Commodities Recap

01:11:26 Closing and Where to Follow

Precious metal and base metal prices have soared as have many mining stocks, but despite this, Freddy Brick, partner at Muddy Waters Capital says that the industry feels closer to left for dead than euphoric. He explains why that setup and the consistency of the mispricing in the sector brought them to launch a fund with the help of mining expert Darren McLean allowing them to take concentrated investments in the assets they think the market is overlooking while running lower net exposure. He also discusses how they think about hedging in the sector, why they take a bottom-up approach to portfolio construction, and how they approach short and long activism in the sector.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:28 Approach to Portfolio Construction

07:56 Fraud Report Origin

09:35 Block Models Explained

15:27 Why Juniors Are Distressed

21:19 Finding Mispriced Projects

25:12 Venture Like Investing

28:25 Promoters and Capital Raising

33:43 Sentiment and Cycles

38:28 M&A Wave Ahead

43:27 Trading Vol and Hedging

46:57 Long Activism Approach

50:23 Scaling the Strategy

55:10 When Alpha Shows Up