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  • #152: Lisa Blasser - How to Succeed in Law School
    Today's special episode of How I Lawyer focuses on law students! In it, Jonah speaks with Lisa Blasser who is the founder of the Law School Success Institute and author of "The Nine Steps to Law School: A Scientifically Proven Study Process for Success: A Scientifically Proven Study Process for Lawyers." I asked Lisa to join me on the podcast for this special episode of How I Lawyer to talk about how to succeed on law school exams. This episode is targeted at law students and I hope you’ll give it a listen and share it with anyone you know just getting started.Lisa is kindly offering How I Lawyer listeners a 10% discount on her flagship Law School Operating System Recorded Course by entering coupon code HOWILAWYER10 at checkout (23 modules and a Workbook, to be completed in four hours).This episode is sponsored, edited, and engineered by LawPods, a professional podcast production company for busy attorneys.
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  • LIVE: A Conversation with Amanda Litman on Gen Z Lawyers
    In this special Substack LIVE Episode of How I Lawyer recorded on 10/7/2025, Jonah spoke with Amanda Litman, the author of the new book When We're In Charge and recognized expert on the Gen Z workforce.
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  • #150: Heather Stevenson - General Counsel, Former Litigator, and Ex-Juice Bar Owner
    Welcome back to another episode of the How I Lawyer Podcast, where Professor Jonah Perlin interviews lawyers about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well.Today's guest is Heather Stevenson, the General Counsel at RedCell (a venture firm and incubator that starts and invests in companies across national security, cyber, and healthcare). Before her current role, Heather worked as a litigator at Sullivan Cromwell, served as Deputy General Counsel at the Boston Globe, and notably owned a successful juice bar business for several years. Heather and Jonah met as founding board members of the Legal Mentor Network, a nonprofit dedicated to providing free mentorship to junior lawyers. Heather graduated from Columbia University and Columbia Law School, where she was a Harlan Fisk Stone Scholar.In this episode, Heather shares valuable insights about the legal profession including:👨‍👩‍👧‍👦⚖️ How having two lawyer parents influenced her career path, though she still had much to learn about the modern legal profession despite this advantage [2:26]🏢📝 How her early career plan to become a big law partner changed when she realized the full lives of senior lawyers didn't align with what she wanted for herself [5:25]🥤💼 How she and her husband transitioned from big law to entrepreneurship by opening a juice bar business, which became a hands-on MBA experience [8:33]📊🧠 How her business experience proved invaluable when returning to legal practice, particularly for in-house roles where understanding business operations is essential [16:07]📰⚖️ How she secured her position at the Boston Globe despite lacking traditional media experience by emphasizing her transferable skills and business knowledge [17:01]🔄🚀 How her varied background—big law training, in-house experience, and entrepreneurship—uniquely qualified her for her current role at RedCell [24:40]🙋‍♀️💡 How women should apply for jobs even when they don't meet all listed requirements, as studies show men typically apply with fewer qualifications [27:18]👥🤝 How building genuine relationships and community (rather than traditional networking) is crucial for career advancement [29:26]🧠👨‍🏫 How mentoring others has been a fulfilling way to give back, starting with helping those just one step behind her career-wise [30:58]📝🔍 How mentees can get the most from mentorship by coming prepared with specific questions and following up regularly [35:22]⏱️🧘‍♀️ How embracing "seasons of life" helps balance parenting and career demands, recognizing that different periods require different priorities [37:46]📚🔄 How new lawyers should prioritize learning opportunities over billable hours, as investing in growth is essential for long-term career development [41:19]This episode is sponsored, edited, and engineered by LawPods, a professional podcast production company for busy attorneys.For more from Heather, follow her on LinkedIn or subscribe to her newsletter "In House Outside the Box" for in-house lawyers interested in building careers on their own terms.
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  • #149: Jonathan Z. Cohen - Associate General Counsel, Former Prosecutor, Speaker on Resilience and Mindset
    Welcome back to another episode of the How I Lawyer Podcast, where Professor Jonah Perlin interviews lawyers about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well.Today's guest is Jonathan Z. Cohen, Associate General Counsel for PNY Technologies and Business Development lead for North America. Beyond his corporate role, Jonathan educates lawyers on wellbeing, stress management, and mental fitness through CLEs, keynotes, and workshops. His professional background includes serving as an Assistant District Attorney in the Bronx. Jonathan holds degrees from Muhlenberg College and Touro University Law and School of Business.In this episode, Jonathan shares valuable insights about the legal profession including:🧠💪 How his journey from struggling student to accomplished attorney shaped his understanding of personal potential and the power of overcoming limiting narratives [02:01]🌍✈️ How taking time off before college transformed his discipline, structure, and approach to challenges [03:54]📚🎓 How he became one of the first graduates of Touro Law's JD/MBA joint degree program, transitioning from academic struggles to graduating in the top of his class [06:43]⚖️👨‍⚖️ How his experience as a Bronx prosecutor provided invaluable courtroom experience while teaching him to learn from more seasoned attorneys [12:17]🏢💻 How he transitioned from criminal law to the technology sector, joining PNY Technologies and its partnership with NVIDIA before AI became mainstream [19:35]😓🧘‍♂️ How the shift from high-stakes prosecution to corporate law allowed his nervous system to "calm down a thousand degrees" while still maintaining professional challenge [23:21]🔍🧠 How awareness is the foundation of all personal and professional development, especially for managing burnout in the legal profession [32:20]📝💯 How creating an "evidence frame" list of your credentials and preparation can combat imposter syndrome in high-pressure situations [34:25]🏃‍♂️🏆 How setting ambitious physical challenges creates structure that positively impacts all areas of life, including professional performance [40:02]🎓⚖️ Why new lawyers should ignore negative narratives about the profession and recognize that legal training provides skills that can be applied in countless ways [44:54]This episode is sponsored, edited, and engineered by LawPods, a professional podcast production company for busy attorneys.
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  • #148: C.J. Mahoney - Microsoft General Counsel, Former Deputy US Trade Representative, & Law Firm Partner
    Welcome back to another episode of the How I Lawyer Podcast, where Professor Jonah Perlin interviews lawyers about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well.Today's guest is C.J. Mahoney, the Corporate Vice President and General Counsel at Microsoft. Before joining Microsoft, C.J. served as the Deputy United States Trade Representative (a position to which he was unanimously confirmed) and was previously a partner at Williams & Connolly. He started his career as a law clerk for Associate Justice Anthony Kennedy after graduating from Yale Law School where he was Editor-in-Chief of the Yale Law Journal and attending Harvard University. C.J. was also one of Jonah'sfirst legal supervisors when he was a summer associate at Williams & Connolly 15 years ago.In this episode, C.J. shares valuable insights about the legal profession including:🏙️🧩 How growing up in a small Kansas town where lawyers were well-respected influenced his decision to pursue law as a career path [1:59]🎓⚖️ How his journey through Yale Law School and prestigious clerkships ultimately led him to realize he wanted to learn how to try cases rather than focus solely on appellate work [3:46]🔄🌟 How his career path wasn't as linear as it might appear on LinkedIn, but rather involved being open to new opportunities and distinguishing himself from other talented lawyers [6:48]📝💼 How his litigation skills proved surprisingly transferable when he moved to trade negotiations, particularly in synthesizing complex information and cross-examining experts [14:19]🧠📊 How the ability to take complex facts and make them understandable is a superpower that has served him well across different roles [18:13]✍️🔍 How writing things down and putting concepts in your own words is crucial for learning new areas and sharpening your thinking [18:44]⚖️💻 How his perspective on litigation changed dramatically once he moved in-house and saw firsthand the burden it places on businesses [24:52]🤝💯 How building trust is the most important aspect of managing people, particularly in creating an environment where people feel comfortable bringing bad news [27:12]🌐🔮 How the intersection of AI advancement and political polarization creates unique challenges and opportunities for lawyers in the technology sector [34:11]⏳🏆 How sticking it out through hard times at a law firm and building a strong foundation was one of the best career decisions he made [41:06]This episode is sponsored, edited, and engineered by LawPods, a professional podcast production company for busy attorneys.
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In this podcast Professor Jonah Perlin (Georgetown Law) interviews lawyers from across the profession about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well.
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