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• The past, present, and future of enterprise AI - Matthew Toussain, Pravi Devineni - ESW #403

  In this interview, we're excited to speak with Pravi Devineni, who was into AI before it was insane. Pravi has a PhD in AI and remembers the days when machine learning (ML) and AI were synonymous. This is where we'll start our conversation: trying to get some perspective around how generative AI has changed the overall landscape of AI in the enterprise. Then, we move on to the topic of AI safety and whether that should be the CISO's job, or someone else's. Finally, we'll discuss the future of AI and try to end on a positive or hopeful note! What a time to have this conversation! Mere days from the certain destruction of CVE, averted only in the 11th hour, we have a chat about vulnerability management lifecycles. CVEs are definitely part of them. Vulnerability management is very much a hot mess at the moment for many reasons. Even with perfectly stable support from the institutions that catalog and label vulnerabilities from vendors, we'd still have some serious issues to address, like: disconnects between vulnerability analysts and asset owners gaps and issues in vulnerability discovery and asset management different options for workflows between security and IT: which is best? patching it like you stole it Oh, did we mention Matt built an open source vuln scanner? https://sirius.publickey.io/ In the enterprise security news, lots of funding, but no acquisitions? New companies new tools including a SecOps chrome plugin and a chrome plugin that tells you the price of enterprise software prompt engineering tips from google being an Innovation Sandbox finalist will cost you Security brutalism CVE dumpster fires and a heartwarming story about a dog, because we need to end on something happy! All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-403

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• What is old is new again: default deny on the endpoint - Colby DeRodeff, Danny Jenkins - ESW #402

  Default deny is an old, and very recognizable term in security. Most folks that have been in the industry for a long time will associate the concept with firewall rules. The old network firewalls, positioned between the public Internet and private data centers, however, were relatively uncomplicated and static. Most businesses had a few hundred firewall rules at most. The idea of implementing default deny principles elsewhere were attempted, but without much success. Internal networks (NAC), and endpoints (application control 1.0) were too dynamic for the default deny approach to be feasible. Vendors built solutions, and enterprises tried to implement them, but most gave up. Default deny is still an ideal approach to protecting assets and data against attacks - what it needed was a better approach. An approach that could be implemented at scale, with less overhead. This is what we’ll be talking to Threatlocker’s CEO and co-founder, Danny Jenkins, about on this episode. They seemed to have cracked the code here and are eager to share how they did it. This segment is sponsored by ThreatLocker. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/threatlocker to learn more about them! We wanted security data? We got it! Now, what the heck do we DO with all of it? The core challenge of security operations, incident response, and even compliance is still a data management and analysis problem. Which is why we’re seeing companies like Abstract Security pop up to address some of these challenges. Abstract just released a comprehensive eBook on security data strategy, linked below, and you don’t even need to give up an email address to read it! In this interview, we’ll talk through some of the highlights: Challenges Myths Pillars of a data security strategy Understanding the tools available Segment Resources A Leader’s Guide to Security Data Strategy eBook In the enterprise security news, new startup funding what happened to the cybersecurity skills shortage? tools for playing with local GenAI models CVE assignment drama a SIEM-agnostic approach to detection engineering pitch for charity a lost dog that doesn’t want to be found All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-402

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• Soft skills for engineers - Evgeniy Kharam, Paul Nguyen - ESW #401

  When we use the phrase "talent gap" in cybersecurity, we're usually talking about adding headcount. For this interview, however, we're focusing on a gap that is evident within existing teams and practitioners - the often misunderstood soft skills gap. Side note: I really hate the term "soft skills". How about we call them "fundamental business skills", or "invaluable career advancement skills"? Hmm, doesn't quite roll off the tongue the same. Soft skills can impact everything, as they impose the limits of how we interact with our world. That goes for co-worker interactions, career advancements, and how we're perceived by our peers and community. It doesn't matter how brilliant you might be - without soft skills, your potential could be severely limited. Did you know that soft skills issues contributed to the Equifax breach? We'll also discuss how fear is related to some of the same limitations and challenges as soft skills. Segment Resources: https://www.softskillstech.ca/ Order the Book You might know them from their excellent research work on groups like Scattered Spider, or their refreshing branding/marketing style, but Permiso is laying some impressive groundwork for understanding and defending against identity and cloud-based attacks. In this interview, we talk with co-founder and co-CEO Paul Nguyen about understanding the threats against some of cybercriminals' favorite attack surface, insider threats, and non-human identity compromise. Segment Resources: This blog post from our threat research team on Scattered Spider shows how threat actors move laterally in an environment across identity providers, Iaas, PaaS and SaaS environments, and how this lateral movement ultimately creates blind spots for many security teams This great talk by Ian Ahl, from fwd:cloudsec 2024, touches on a lot of great TTPs used by attackers in IDPs and in the cloud Another blog, When AI Gets Hijacked: Exploiting Hosted Models for Dark Roleplaying and another, What Security Teams Can Learn From The Rippling/Deel Lawsuit: Intent Lies in Search Logs This week, in the enterprise security news, we check the vibes we check the funding we check runZero’s latest release notes tons of free tools! the latest TTPs supply chain threats certs won’t save you GRC needs disruption the latest Rippling/Deel drama All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-401

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• Setting up your SIEM for success - Pitfalls to preclude and tips to take - Geoff Cairns, Neil Desai - ESW #400

  A successful SIEM deployment depends on a lot more than implementing the SIEM correctly. So many other things in your environment have an impact on your chances of a successful SIEM. Are the right logs enabled? Is your EDR working correctly? Would you notice a sudden increase or decrease in events from critical sources? What can practitioners do to ensure the success of their SIEM deployment? This segment is sponsored by Graylog. Visit https://securityweekly.com/graylog to learn more about them! In this interview, we feature some research from Geoff Cairns, an analyst at Forrester Research. This is a preview to the talk he'll be giving at Identiverse 2025 in a few months. We won't have time to cover all the trends, but there are several here that I'm excited to discuss! Deepfake Detection Difficult Zero Trust Agentic AI Phishing resistant MFA adoption Identity Verification Machine Identity Decentralized Identity Post Quantum Shared Signals Segment Resources: The Top Trends Shaping Identity And Access Management In 2025 - (Forrester subscription required) In this week's enterprise security news, Big funding for Island Is DLP finally getting disrupted? By something that works? We learn all about Model Context Protocol servers Integrating SSO and SSH! Do we have too many cybersecurity regulations? Toxic cybersecurity workplaces Napster makes a comeback this week, we’ve got 50% less AI and 50% more co-hosts All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-400

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• Building the SOC of the Future - JP Bourget, Michael Mumcuoglu - ESW #399

  What does a mature SecOps team look like? There is pressure to do more with less staff, increase efficiency and reduce costs. JP Bourget's experience has led him to believe that the answer isn't a tool upgrade, it's better planning, architecture, and process. In this interview, we'll discuss some of the common mistakes SecOps teams make, and where to start when building the SOC of the future. It feels like forever ago, but in the mid-2010s, we collectively realized, as an industry, that prevention was never going to be enough. Some attacks were always going to make their way through. Then ransomware got popular and really drove this point home. Detection engineering is a tough challenge, however. Where do we start? Which attacks should we build detections for? How much of the MITRE ATT&CK matrix do we need to cover? How often do these detections need to be reviewed and updated? Wait, are any of our detections even working? In this interview with Michael Mumcuoglu, we'll discuss where SecOps teams get it wrong. We'll discuss common pitfalls, and strategies for building more resilient and effective detections. Again, as an industry, we need to understand why ransomware attacks keep going unnoticed, despite attackers using routine techniques and tools that we see over and over and over again. Session Resources: Rethinking Threat Exposure Management: A Unified Approach to Reducing Risk This week, JP Bourget from Blue Cycle is with us to discuss Building the SOC of the Future Then, Michael Mumcuoglu (Moom-cuoglu) from CardinalOps joins us to talk about improving detection engineering. In the enterprise security news, Google bets $32B on a Wiz Kid Cybereason is down a CEO, but $120M richer EPSS version 4 is out Github supply chain attacks all over A brief history of supply chain attacks Why you might want to wait out the Agentic AI trend Zyxel wants you to throw away their (old) products HP printers are quantum resilient (and no one cares) A giant rat is my hero All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-399

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