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    Stalked by a Mountain Lion, a 25-Foot Fall in the Sierra, and Canoeing 2,400 Miles Down the Mississippi with Matthew "Masochist" Hengst (BPR #362)

    2026/06/22 | 3h 27 mins.
    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by Matthew Hengst, aka Masochist, an IT-professional-turned-full-time-adventurer who over the past eight-plus years has racked up 20,000 miles hiked, nearly 3,000 miles paddled, 2.5 million feet of elevation climbed, and somewhere north of 300 diving sessions across multiple continents. 
    Masochist walks us through canoeing 2,400 miles down the Mississippi, the time he fell 25 feet in a remote part of the Sierra and laid there for 15 hours waiting for a helicopter, catching COVID and norovirus back to back at 12,000 feet on the CDT, navigating stealth camping across rural America, terrifying encounters with dogs, and his favorite parts of the Eastern Continental Trail. Matthew also makes a strong case for why the Florida Trail and the Condor Trail are two of the most underrated long trails, and explains why he has no plans to stop adventuring anytime soon.
    We wrap the show with the devastating news that Timberline Lodge has ended its breakfast buffet, debating whether poop pees count as full pees, a sun hoodie review on a product that's maybe not a sun hoodie, the triple crown of words for penis (with Chaunce publicly soliciting micropenis photos), and the best way to move legos across the country.
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    [divider]
    Interview with Matthew "Masochist" Hengst
    Matthew's Youtube
    Matthew's Instagram
    Matthew's Website
    Time stamps & Questions
    00:05:45 - Reminders: Apply to vlog or blog for the Trek, subscribe to The Trek's Youtube, join us for Chaunce's live podcast sendoff, and listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon!
    00:11:15 - Introducing Masochist
    00:13:10 - Tell us about your life prior to backpacking
    00:19:00 - Tell us about your spreadsheets
    00:23:14 - Did you grow up in the outdoors?
    00:24:40 - Tell us about your relationship
    00:30:00 - Tell us about your major injuries
    00:36:32 - What's the closest you've ever been to death?
    00:38:45 - How do you describe yourself?
    00:40:00 - What adventure have you done that gets people the most excited?
    00:42:00 - Discussion about paddling the Mississippi River
    00:48:20 - What's the elevator pitch on floating the Mississippi River?
    00:53:30 - How do you decide what your next trip should be?
    00:55:30 - Tell us about the Theodore Solomons Trail
    00:59:00 - What's the Desert Trail Border?
    01:00:50 - Tell us about the Condor Trail
    01:03:00 - What are your tips for stealth camping?
    01:06:40 - Did Florida put a bad taste in your mouth when starting the ECT?
    01:11:20 - Discussion about bad water in eastern Colorado
    01:15:20 - Is there more to why you liked the Florida Trail?
    01:18:55 - Tell us about the ECT after Katahdin
    01:26:00 - Discussion about dog attacks while thru-hiking
    01:30:30 - Why'd you hike the Lone Star Trail?
    01:34:25 - Are there any underrated trails you're excited about?
    01:37:30 - What are some singletrack loops in California?
    01:42:20 - What's your elevator pitch on the San Diego Trans County Trail?
    01:44:20 - Did the CDT feel easy?
    01:48:00 - What are your go to animal encounter stories?
    01:55:20 - Tell us about hiking through extreme weather
    01:56:30 - How do you maintain the fun element through all of your hikes?
    02:02:40 - Give us your highlights and lowlights from the American Discovery Trail
    02:10:50 - Tell us about your health issues in 2025
    02:15:55 - Do you ever take time off trail to recover and rest?
    02:20:30 - How did you pick the Australian trails you've done this year?
    02:28:00 - Have you ever considered bikepacking?
    02:29:30 - Peak Performance Question: What is your top performance-enhancing or backpacking hack?
    Segments
    Trek Propaganda: Timberline Lodge Ends Breakfast Buffet Popular With Generations of PCT Hikers by James Townsend
    QOTD: Do poop pees count as full pees?
    Sun Hoodie Review: Fjällräven Abisko Wool Hoodie
    Triple Crown of words for penis
    Mail Bag
    5 Star Review
    [divider]
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    Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.
    A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "The Snail" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns
    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, Dakota J, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lloyd Harris, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers.
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    Lyme Disease Research Update, Raccoon vs. Goose, the Triple Crown of Girly Gear, and 2026 Hiking Gear Trends

    2026/06/18 | 40 mins.
    Segments
    Lyme Disease Update
    Trek Propaganda: 2026 Hiking Gear Trends, And Whether I Think They're Actually Worth It by Livvy Weld
    QOTD: Would you rather have one raccoon know all your secrets and occasionally hint at them or one goose publicly overreact to everything you do?
    Stupid Thing of the Week
    Triple Crown of gear you can find that's girly
    Mail Bag
    5 Star Review
    [divider]
    Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee.
    Sign up for the Trek's newsletter
    Leave us a voicemail!
    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.
    Support us on Patreon to get bonus content.
    Advertise on Backpacker Radio
    Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram.
    Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.
    Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. 
    Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.
    A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "The Snail" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns
    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, Dakota J, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lloyd Harris, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers.
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    Walking the Portuguese Camino with Her Parents to Honor Her Late Brother with Elise "Sauce" Ott (BPR #361)

    2026/06/15 | 3h 1 mins.
    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by our pal Elise Ott, aka Sauce, who gives us a play by play of her recent hike on Portuguese Camino coastal route along with her parents.
    SOS walks us through doing the Camino as a tribute to her late brother Curtis, who passed away in February of 2025 after years of living with schizoaffective disorder. She shares his story with honesty and humor, including the time he stole a county parks truck in a three-piece suit, drove it across state lines, and complimented the cop who tackled him, and gets into what it's like to love someone whose illness made them impossible to help, why she doesn't know exactly how he died, and what it meant to scatter his ashes along the coast of Portugal with her parents.
    Elise also shares what the Portuguese Camino coastal route is actually like, the food situation (and why it was mas o menos), how it was to hike the trail through a  tour operator, navigating language barriers with limited Spanish, and what it's like to hike 13 days with your parents and come out closer on the other side. 
    We wrap the show with 2026 hiking trends and whether they're actually worth it, debating the classic debate of raccoon-who-knows-your-secrets versus the goose-who-overreacts-to-everything, the triple crown of girly gear, I am very dumb and pulled my hamstring, and we cover a mailbag about wearing contacts on trail.
    Warning: this episode contains candid discussion of mental illness, substance abuse, family trauma, and the death of a loved one.
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    [divider]
    Interview with Elise "SOS" Ott
    Elise's Instagram
    Elise's Website
    Elise's Youtube
    Time stamps & Questions
    00:05:35 - Reminders: Join us for Chaunce's live podcast sendoff, submit your favorite Chaunce moments or a voicemail for Chaunce, calling all CDT hikers - suggest yourself as a guest, sign up for the Trek's newsletter, and listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon!
    00:12:30 - Introducing Elise
    00:14:00 - What does a running coach do?
    00:19:01 - How do you handle the social pressure of running on Strava?
    00:23:09 - How did you end up choosing the Portuguese Camino Coastal Route?
    00:26:06 - What are the daily miles, pace, and logistics like on the Camino?
    00:29:04 - What was the food like in Portugal and Spain?
    00:35:05 - What was the cost of using a tour service, and was it worth it?
    00:38:59 - What are the highlights of the towns along the route?
    00:45:00 - Discussion about Curtis and the reason for the hike
    00:46:18 - What is schizoaffective disorder, and how did Curtis's illness develop?
    00:55:51 - What's the story of Curtis stealing the county truck in a three-piece suit?
    01:03:10 - Were rehab stints ever helpful for Curtis?
    01:18:39 - What was it like fearing for your parents' safety?
    01:28:35 - How are your parents doing, and was the hike a positive grieving exercise?
    01:32:13 - What do you know about how Curtis died?
    01:41:12 - What advice do you have for people loving someone with severe mental illness?
    01:45:15 - What were the highlights and best moments of the Camino?
    01:46:53 - How did you navigate language barriers in Portugal and Spain?
    01:48:24 - What are the funniest parent quirks you discovered on the hike?
    01:57:03 - What gear do you recommend for the Camino?
    02:07:15 - What was the funniest thing that happened on the trail?
    02:10:01 - What is it like managing sleep apnea with a CPAP while backpacking?
    02:23:04 - What are your top recovery tips for ultrarunning?
    02:27:54 - Discussion about 2026 hiking trends: sleeping pad inflators and Alpha Direct
    Segments
    Trek Propaganda: 2026 Hiking Gear Trends, And Whether I Think They're Actually Worth It by Livvy Weld
    QOTD: Would you rather have one raccoon know all your secrets and occasionally hint at them or one goose publicly overreact to everything you do?
    Stupid Thing of the Week
    Triple Crown of gear you can find that's girly
    Mail Bag
    5 Star Review
    [divider]
    Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee.
    Sign up for the Trek's newsletter
    Leave us a voicemail!
    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.
    Support us on Patreon to get bonus content.
    Advertise on Backpacker Radio
    Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram.
    Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.
    Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. 
    Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.
    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "The Snail" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns
    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, Dakota J, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lloyd Harris, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers.
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    The World's Tallest Unclimbed Mountains, Tips for Taking a Sabbatical to Hike, and Kissing vs. Sauces

    2026/06/11 | 49 mins.
    Segments
    The Tallest Unclimbed Mountains
    Trek Propaganda: Roundup Is Being Sprayed in National Forests. Here's What PCT Hikers Should Know by Kelly Floro
    QOTD:  Would you rather give up sauces or kissing?
    Triple Crown of Ways NOT to die
    Mail Bag
    5 Star Review
    [divider]
    Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee.
    Sign up for the Trek's newsletter
    Leave us a voicemail!
    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.
    Support us on Patreon to get bonus content.
    Advertise on Backpacker Radio
    Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram.
    Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.
    Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. 
    Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.
    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "The Snail" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns

    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, Dakota J, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lloyd Harris, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers
  • Backpacker Radio

    Backpacker Radio's Origin Story, Evolution, and Behind the Scenes with Zach and Chaunce (BPR #360)

    2026/06/08 | 3h 41 mins.
    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are bringing you the rare Chaunce and Zach solo pod. 
    In this one, we tell the full origin story of Backpacker Radio, from the unofficial co-host audition at a hiker meetup, to Chaunce showing up at the wrong restaurant on day one, to almost not making it past the early episodes. We get into how our interviewing dynamic has evolved over eight years, the technical disasters of the early days, the team that quietly makes this whole thing work, our all-time favorite guests, the ones we never aired, the dream guests we still haven't landed, and answer a slew of listener questions.
    We wrap the show with a triple crown of worst ways to die, share the news that apparently Roundup is being sprayed in our national forests, opine on whether we'd rather give up sauces or kissing (and debate whether butter is a sauce), and give an overview on how to negotiate a thru-hiking sabbatical from your employer. 
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    [divider]
    Interview with Chaunce
    Time stamps & Questions
    00:06:15 - Reminders: Support Akuna during his recovery, join us for Chaunce's live podcast sendoff, submit your favorite Chaunce moments or a voicemail for Chaunce, apply to be a co-host, check out our new merch, listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon!
    00:15:05 - Introducing Chaunce
    00:17:10 - What was Zach's initial idea for the podcast and how you decided you wanted a co-host?
    00:25:42 - What were your first impressions of each other
    00:27:48 - What were your expectations for the podcast's longevity and success?
    00:34:20 - Did you discuss the style of the podcast and interview format you wanted?
    00:39:43 - How has your co-interviewing strategy changed over the years?
    00:59:25 - How are guests chosen for the show?
    01:09:58 - What are some surprising things you've learned about making the podcast?
    01:19:13 - How many interviews or segments have had to be cut?
    01:24:18 - How long did it take to get over saying something dumb on air?
    01:32:46 - How has the other person changed since episode one?
    01:35:49 - What phrases or habits have you picked up from each other?
    01:36:31 - How is the Mile by Mile project going?
    01:45:45 - How have you balanced full-time work with hiking and the podcast?
    01:53:18 - Were there any episodes where you were sick or physically unwell?
    01:59:44 - Discussion about listener & Instagram questions
    02:00:28 - How do you manage a friendship while working together?
    02:02:43 - If you could go back to the beginning, what advice would you give yourselves?
    02:13:27 - Discussion about highest highs and lowest lows from the podcast
    02:20:23 - What are a few all-time favorite guests?
    02:26:32 - Which guest were you most nervous to interview?
    02:28:53 - What were your "I love my job" moments from the show?
    02:31:51 - What will you miss most about interviewing together?
    02:35:51 - Discussion about podcast segments that lived and died
    02:39:23 - What are the remaining dream guests you haven't landed yet?
    02:48:00 - Peak Performance Question: What is your top performance enhancing or backpacking hack?
    Segments
    Trek Propaganda: Roundup Is Being Sprayed in National Forests. Here's What PCT Hikers Should Know by Kelly Floro
    QOTD:  Would you rather give up sauces or kissing?
    Triple Crown of Ways NOT to die
    Mail Bag
    5 Star Review
    [divider]
    Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee.
    Sign up for the Trek's newsletter
    Leave us a voicemail!
    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.
    Support us on Patreon to get bonus content.
    Advertise on Backpacker Radio
    Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram.
    Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.
    Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. 
    Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.
    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "The Snail" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns
    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, Dakota J, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lloyd Harris, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers.
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From the Appalachian Trail to the Pacific Crest and everything in between. Backpacker Radio is a show all about the wonderful world that is thru-hiking and long distance backpacking. Co-hosts, Zach "Badger" Davis and Juliana "Chaunce" Chauncey muse on the backpacking life and the latest from the trail every other week. Topics include but are not limited to news, trail culture, interviews, gear, advice, and all you can eat buffets.
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