Sweat Elite Podcast

Matt and Kyle recap the Boston Marathon, discussing standout performances, strong Australian results, and how favorable tailwinds can make Boston far faster than many expect despite the course profile. They break down race execution, fast early splits, and why Boston can sometimes race more like a flat fast marathon than people assume.
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The conversation then shifts to Kyle's Gold Coast Marathon build, balancing fatherhood and full-time physiotherapy work while preparing for a strong marathon performance. They discuss recent 10K racing as a turning point for confidence and fitness, current weekly mileage, a key 4 x 2K workout, and how shorter races can be used as valuable marathon build checkpoints without needing to be in PB shape.
They also cover influencer culture versus elite running performance, tall poppy syndrome, and why attention and actual results often do not align. Kyle explains how to manage niggles, when to seek professional help, and applies that thinking to Matt's calf issue during his return from a sacral stress fracture. The episode finishes with thoughts on doubles versus singles, training cycles beyond the traditional seven-day week, group training benefits, and why learning how to race matters just as much as fitness itself.
Timestamps:
00:00 Boston Marathon Recap
02:50 Tailwinds and Fast Times
04:04 Gold Coast Training Update
07:37 Balancing Kids and Mileage
10:06 Recent Workouts and 10K Plans
12:28 Influencers vs Elite Runners
18:50 Handling Niggles and Injury Risk
24:19 Return to Running Philosophy
27:37 Calf Strain Check In
29:24 Hiking And Fatigue Risks
30:09 Doubles Versus Singles
33:57 Easy Run Time Limits
37:04 Beyond The Seven Day Week
40:39 Group Training Versus Solo
43:38 Racing Without PB Pressure
49:59 Short Races In Marathon Builds
53:09 Wrap Up And Next Episode

Mick Fox (2:19 marathoner) and Matt Fox (2:18 marathoner). Boston Recap, London Forecast, and Why Runners Overthink Data (Plus a Robot Race Detour)
In this week's episode of the Sweat Elite Podcast, Mick Fox and Matt return with another episode of the Fastest Fox series. They break down Boston Marathon results, preview London Marathon conditions, discuss why so many runners overcomplicate training data, and somehow end up deep in a conversation about robot racing in Beijing.
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Mick Fox and Matt open the episode with some light banter around balding, hats, and race-week nerves before moving into what has been a rare gift for marathon runners - genuinely ideal weather conditions. They discuss Boston's unusual tailwind and cool temperatures, and how much weather often matters more than course profile itself. London also looks promising, leading into excitement around another major weekend of racing.
They recap the Boston Marathon in detail, covering John Korir's win, the depth of the men's field, and standout performances from athletes like El Bilal, Charlie Hicks, Rory Linkletter, Clayton Young, and Abdi Nageeye, whose 2:08 for 21st place shows just how deep the race was. On the women's side, they touch on Hellen Obiri's win and Emily Sisson's strong late-race move into ninth place.
The conversation moves into reflections on Ryan and Sara Hall, Boston's unusual 1897 short-course history, and how much marathon racing has changed over time, especially around fuelling and preparation. Mick and Matt compare older-school approaches to the modern obsession with precision and metrics, questioning whether some athletes now rely too heavily on devices instead of learning how to truly run by feel.
That opens up a wider discussion around influencers, Strava culture, and the tendency for runners to overanalyse pace, heart rate, and training numbers. They argue that too much data can create unnecessary anxiety, especially for everyday runners trying to compare themselves to elite-level content online. Simplicity, consistency, and self-awareness remain the bigger performance drivers.
They also preview the London Marathon, touching on British and Irish athletes to watch, and discuss the value of documenting the life of the everyday runner rather than only chasing polished elite content. Mick highlights creators and relatable runners who make the sport feel more accessible and honest for regular people balancing training with normal life.
In true Fastest Fox fashion, the episode takes a sharp turn into a discussion about robot racing in Beijing, AI, and what life could look like if robots become increasingly normal in everyday society. From convenience to discomfort, they debate where technology helps and where it starts to feel like too much. They close by circling back to London Marathon hype and the reminder that sometimes the best race plan is simply trusting your effort and racing without overthinking it.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Balding Banter
01:04 - Boston Marathon
02:50 - Weather Beats Courses
04:37 - Boston Winners Talk
06:10 - Ryan and Sarah Hall
09:36 - Old School Racing
13:13 - Boston Standout Runs
20:20 - London Marathon Preview
24:27 - Influencers vs Real Amateurs
29:58 - Fly on the Wall Filming
34:09 - Shoutout to Tony
34:45 - Finding Relatable Runners
34:55 - Michael Sison Recommendation
37:30 - Robot Race Rant
39:10 - Flying to Beijing for Robots
44:02 - AI Convenience vs Fear
45:42 - Robots Running in China
51:45 - London Marathon Hype
52:20 - Race Without a Plan
56:17 - Heart Rate Obsession
58:53 - Influencers and Watch Data
01:01:05 - Old School Feel Training
01:04:38 - Strava and Social Burnout
01:07:08 - Wrapping Up and Private Pod

Ethan Shuley on His Rapid Marathon Rise to 2:07 in Osaka, Training in Japan, and What's Next
Matt Fox speaks with runner and YouTuber Ethan Shuley about his rapid rise from a 2:46 marathoner to 2:07 in Osaka. Ethan shares how injuries, ultras, Japan's running culture, high mileage, better fueling, and more structured coaching helped drive one of the most interesting marathon progressions in the sport right now.
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Ethan Shuley joins Matt Fox to unpack one of the most dramatic recent jumps in marathon running - from 2:46 at Provo Marathon off minimal training to 2:07 at Osaka. Ethan explains his background as a strong high school runner in Kentucky, injuries at BYU, two years living in Ukraine on an LDS mission, and how moving to Japan after studying Japanese opened the door to a completely different running culture.
The conversation dives into Ethan's return to serious training through ultras, mistakes that taught him key lessons, self-coaching, Strava pressure, and how more structured marathon preparation changed everything. Ethan talks through breakthrough races at Nara, Kobe, and Osaka, including mileage progression, shoe adaptation, first-time bottle fueling with Maurten and gels, and the practical details that helped him close the gap to 2:07.
Matt and Ethan also discuss the differences between Japanese and American distance running systems, why Japan has such depth in the marathon but less focus on middle distance, the pressure of sharing training online, YouTube filming challenges, sponsor considerations, and what comes next with pacing duties at Gold Coast and a target race at the Launceston Half.
Topics:
00:00 - Meet Ethan Shuley
01:17 - Post Osaka Life Changes
02:44 - Early Running Background
05:15 - Ukraine Mission Years
06:27 - First Marathon Breakthrough
08:10 - Ultras Spark Comeback
09:41 - Why Japan Matters
12:31 - Ultra Mistake Lessons
14:15 - Self Coaching Training Philosophy
18:17 - Mileage Strava Pressure
22:41 - Injury Nara Turning Point
25:45 - Getting A Coach
28:21 - From 2:11 To 2:07
31:00 - Shoes Fueling Race Details
32:33 - Marathon Bottles and Carrying
33:01 - Fuel Plan for 2:07
33:51 - Japan vs US Carb Mindset
37:15 - Next Races and Goals
39:35 - Strava Privacy and Sharing
40:18 - YouTube Filming Challenges
42:36 - No Vlogging Style
43:49 - Creative Influences
50:03 - Sponsors and Staying in Japan
54:17 - Japan Training System Debate
57:11 - Japan Culture Rule Stories
01:00:55 - Dating Apps and Wrap Up

Some final thoughts ahead of Boston and London Marathon weekend, including why I believe effort matters more than obsessing over numbers, how I would approach Boston tactically, and why fueling properly can make a huge difference on race day. I also talk about what I'm doing in Hong Kong, coaching while travelling, Chinese shoe brands, and a few workouts you can use in your own training.
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Recording this one from Hong Kong, I go through my last-minute thoughts for Boston and London Marathon runners and explain why I think most athletes race better when they stay locked into effort rather than rigid pace or heart rate targets. I talk through the Boston course, the likely weather, how I'd think about carb loading in the final days, and why arriving at the key hills under control matters so much more than chasing a split too early.
I also get into fueling in more detail, including the importance of drip feeding carbohydrates and caffeine throughout the race rather than waiting until you are already in trouble. From there, I talk a bit about what I'm doing in Hong Kong, the running-related app project I'm involved in, and some of the Chinese shoe brands and factories I've been looking into, including the balance between affordability, durability, and performance.
Elsewhere in the episode, I touch on London logistics, some thoughts on the pro scene, my own recent body composition results and return from injury, coaching while travelling, a possible Beating Bester rivalry idea, and a few practical workouts for 5K, 10K, half marathon, and marathon runners.
Topics
00:00 - Hong Kong Coffee Intro
00:55 - Effort Over Numbers
03:02 - Boston Weather And Carbs
04:29 - Why I'm In Hong Kong
05:58 - Chinese Super Shoes Deep Dive
09:06 - Boston Course And Pacing
12:43 - Fueling Plan During Race
16:00 - Heartbreak Hill Execution
17:11 - London Marathon Notes
22:56 - Pro Field And Podcasts
24:44 - Palestine Trip Plans
26:45 - Shoe Prices And Durability
29:23 - Weight Loss And DEXA
31:50 - Body Scan Reality Check
32:49 - Calf Niggle And Shoe Testing
34:16 - Beating Bester Rivalry Idea
39:56 - Coaching While Traveling
45:49 - Rapid Fire Q And A
52:00 - Workouts Of The Week
57:42 - Coaching Versus AI Guidance
58:28 - Wrap Up And Boston Pep Talk

Mick Fox (2:19 marathoner) and Matt Fox (2:18 marathoner) return with another episode of the Fastest Fox series. They cover the current marathon period with Rotterdam complete and Boston and London just ahead, before moving into debates around race weather, hydration policy, shoe technology, underrated running creators, and where the sport is heading.
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Mick Fox and Matt open the episode by looking at the heart of marathon season, with Rotterdam just completed and both Boston and London coming up next. They discuss how different forecasts can shape not only race-day execution but also the appeal of one event over another, noting that Boston looks relatively cool while London may be much warmer. That leads into a broader reflection on how unpredictable weather remains one of the biggest variables in marathon racing.
The conversation then shifts to the Paris Marathon and its controversial trial of removing cups at aid stations. Mick and Matt question whether the policy, while environmentally motivated, creates unnecessary inconvenience and potential risk for runners trying to hydrate properly during a marathon. They also discuss Paris winner "Cripp," and use the race to make a wider point that events outside the Abbott World Marathon Majors can still offer fields, atmosphere, and performances that rival the biggest races in the sport.
From there, they explore what really makes a marathon feel "major," including the influence Abbott has had in shaping perception and expansion. They also touch on some of the most popular European races for fast times, especially from an Irish perspective, with Valencia, Seville, Dublin, and Frankfurt all mentioned as strong options depending on goals, timing, and conditions.
The episode also includes discussion around Rotterdam's 2:03 to 2:04 winning standard and whether modern marathon performances are being driven primarily by shoe advancements. Mick and Matt acknowledge that training, depth, and professionalism all matter, but argue that shoe technology has clearly played a major role in lifting the level of the event and the sport more broadly.
Matt then shares updates from China, where he is researching a shoe brand referred to as "QD," while also thinking through broader ideas around business, running culture, and product access. That includes discussion of a paid group-run app, the possibility of an online shoe store, and what it might look like to help people access performance footwear that is less visible in Western markets.
Later in the episode, the discussion becomes more personal, moving into the tension between travel and family life, the way sleep and routine are affected by constant movement, and the wider shift on social media toward short-form content. Mick and Matt also spotlight underrated running creators including Dan Nash, Ryan Creech, and Caroline Hassett, before briefly debating Josh Kerr's mile world record ambitions and whether he could eventually be a serious marathoner. They wrap up by pointing listeners toward the private podcast and deeper training discussion.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Marathon Season Kickoff
00:42 - Boston And London Weather Talk
02:25 - Paris Hydration Controversy
04:21 - Kipruto Wins Paris
05:28 - What Makes A Major
07:05 - Best Races For Fast Times
09:24 - Frankfurt And Dublin Plans
11:00 - Rotterdam And The Shoe Era
12:02 - China Trip And New Shoe Brands
14:59 - Run Meetup App Idea
18:17 - Business Ideas And Family Tradeoffs
20:19 - Travel Struggles And Sleep
23:01 - Parenthood Sleep Stories
24:04 - Sharing the Hard Moments
24:42 - Short Form Takes Over
26:37 - Attention Spans and Algorithms
29:07 - Watching Runners Grow Up
32:21 - Underrated Creator Shoutouts
33:36 - Dan Nash Spotlight
36:44 - Ryan Creech and Real Talent
40:49 - Caroline Hassett Relatable Running
43:20 - Josh Kerr Mile Record Debate
47:36 - Wrap and Private Pod Plug