Tell Me It's Going To Be OK

Sometimes, a pivot isn't triggered by a failure. Sometimes, it happens when you’re winning.
You can have the perfect life on paper - the apartment by the beach, the successful business, the long-term relationship - and still feel a quiet, persistent exhaustion. It’s that slow build of burnout that whispers: you are running 100 k’s an hour in the wrong direction.
But what happens when you finally brave that change, only to face a hurdle you never saw coming?
Jo Yates began her career studying analogue photography in the UK, right on the edge of the digital revolution. As the industry shifted beneath her feet, she was forced to re-educate herself - pivoting from photography into video production, then into large-scale event and marketing production here in Australia.
But alongside her creative career, Jo had a quiet safety-net hustle: flipping properties. What started as a way to create financial security slowly grew into something much bigger - until it became impossible to ignore.
Then life intervened.
After moving to Noosa, Jo was faced with the covid lockdown AND a diagnosis that forced her to stop, reassess, and reinvent her life yet again. It became the ultimate pivot - one that reframed her relationship with work, success, and what really mattered.
Today, Jo runs Bricks and More, a property renovation and buyer’s advocacy business with a difference - combining her creative thinking with commercial strategy to build homes that are genuinely meaningful to the people who live in them.
In this episode, we talk about adaptability, resilience, rebuilding after crisis, and why you don’t need a dramatic leap to change your life - just a clear vision and the courage to take the next small step.
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Guest: Jo Yates
Host: Sarah Davidson
Executive Producer: Courtney Ammenhauser
Senior Producer: Sally Best
Audio Producer: Thom Lion

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What happens when you need a gap year from real life? When you’ve worked hard, climbed the corporate ladder and saved every penny to buy your first apartment in the big city, only to find yourself in a trap?
Tim Abbott was living the quintessential city life. By 28, he had cracked the Sydney property market, secured a stable corporate career, and built a thriving side hustle making memes for over 100,000 Instagram followers. But behind the scenes, a shocking $11,500 quarterly strata bill and the crushing weight of the cost-of-living crisis brought him to breaking point.
Tim realised he was "cosplaying adulthood" in a life he couldn't afford and didn't enjoy. So, he engineered what he calls a "Financial Gap Year."
In this episode of Pivot Club, Sarah Davidson speaks with Tim about his decision to trade his laptop for a tractor. Tim explains how he quit his job in digital marketing, rented out his apartment, and moved to a rural farm in Queensland to work on a timber plantation. Now, living in a caravan and cutting his expenses by 90%, he is on a mission to regain his financial freedom with a massive goal in mind: To save $100,000 in just 12 months.
We unpack the "ego death" of leaving a "cool" city identity for high-vis and manual labour, the unexpected joy found in a simple existence, and how to tell the difference between what society wants for you and what you actually want for yourself.
Join us for an honest and hilarious conversation about taking back control of your own timeline.
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CREDITS:
Guest: Tim Abbott
Host: Sarah Davidson
Executive Producer: Courtney Ammenhauser
Senior Producer: Sally Best
Audio Producer: Thom Lion

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What happens when you have the ‘perfect’ corporate job at a top-tier firm with a clear path to partnership, but deep down, you feel a pull towards something else? For Alex Marks, the founder of New York’s cult-favourite ‘Sushi Counter’, that pull wasn’t just a distraction - it was the catalyst for trading a high-flying legal career for a world of total uncertainty.
Before she was serving thousands of rolls a day, Alex was a successful M&A lawyer at the top-tier firm Herbert Smith Freehills. She loved the late nights, the adrenaline, and the "in the trenches" camaraderie. But a dream transfer to New York became the catalyst for her pivot when she faced an immediate culture clash. Realising the US corporate world was an "individual sport" she didn't want to play, Alex was faced with a choice: Stay in a job that wasn't a fit, or risk it all.
She chose risk. Pouring her entire $100,000 USD life savings into an idea, she quit her job and, a week later, signed a lease for a tiny shop to sell the Australian-style sushi she couldn't find anywhere in the city.
In this episode of Pivot Club, Sarah Davidson speaks with Alex about this massive industry leap. They unpack the "messy middle" of her entire journey: From the "primitive" Excel model that convinced her to take the leap, to the humbling reality of hand-filling 50,000 soy sauce fish with a syringe in her living room. Alex shares the unfiltered story of how she navigated intense online backlash just one week after opening and how she scaled from a team of one (plus a supportive boyfriend) to a staff of 30.
Join us for a raw and practical lesson in naive optimism, a look into the grit required to build a business from the ground up and a powerful reminder that sometimes, the fear of regret is far scarier than the fear of failure.

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Want more from Sarah Davidson? Check out her podcast Seize The Yay.
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CREDITS:
Guest: Alex Marks
Host: Sarah Davidson
Executive Producer: Courtney Ammenhauser
Senior Producer: Sally Best
Audio Producer: Thom Lion

This show was brought to you in partnership with Charles Sturt University. Australia's largest and most experienced online uni. Take the next step. Search Charles Sturt University online.

Complete our short survey about education for for a chance to win a $1,000 gift voucher in our quarterly draw! https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/8467038/Ch
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.
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Donald Trump has had a busy first day back in the White House.
After being sworn in for his second term as President of the United States, he's made light work of signing executive order and attending important inauguration events.
But where to from here? Our US Correspondent Amelia Lester has the details.
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While we've all been enjoying our summer holiday break President-elect Donald Trump has been busy...
From announcing his plans to take over multiple countries to avoiding jail time at his criminal trial sentencing and fractures in his friendship with Elon Musk, Trump has had a very busy few weeks.
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