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- Making the leap from top-performing individual contributor to effective leader is one of the toughest transitions to make as a Solutions professional. Host Avery Cochran sits down with Akanksha Sehgal, Director of Worldwide Technical Solutions at Omnisa, to explore why the skills that make you a great SE often don't translate to leadership. Akanksha shares her 13-year journey, from handling strategic accounts to leading global teams, and reveals the mindset shifts required at each stage of leadership growth.
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Key Topics Covered
The Challenge of Moving from Expert SE to Leader
Demonstrating Leadership Before Getting the Title
Building Influence and Trust with Former Peers
How Success Metrics Change from IC to Manager
The "Smartest Person Trap" and Letting Your Team Shine
Creating Strategic Thinking Time vs. Staying Tactical
Progressing to Senior Leadership and Managing a Function
Breaking Down Silos Through Cross-Functional Collaboration
Making Hard Decisions and Balancing Business with People
Being Your Authentic Self as a Leader - In this episode, Jack Cochran and Matthew James welcome Samantha Burrell, an enterprise solutions consultant at BenchLink, to discuss how she successfully launched "Demo Face-Off," a gamified enablement competition for her global SC organization. Samantha shares the complete journey from identifying a gap in product enablement when returning from maternity leave to navigating internal politics, securing buy-in from multiple stakeholders, and executing a March Madness-style demo competition that ran over two months.
Thank you to Baton AI for sponsoring this episode. Check out more at getbaton.ai
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Connect with Matthew James: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewyoungjames/Â
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Baton AI: https://www.getbaton.ai/Â
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PSC Unscripted episode with Samantha: https://youtu.be/2nZjv-vWdF0Â
Key Topics Covered
Demo Face-Off Competition Structure: A March Madness-Style Global Competition
Identifying Gaps from Personal Pain Points After Maternity Leave
Navigating Internal Politics and Getting Multi-Stakeholder Buy-In
Connecting Enablement Initiatives to ARR Impact
Using AI Tools for First-Time Project Planning and Execution
Driving Participation Through Competition, Prizes, and Recognition
Making Enablement Entertaining with Production Value and Energy
Cultural Considerations for Global Teams and Iteration Based on Feedback
Individual Contributor Influence Without Formal Authority
Cross-Functional Benefits and Expanding Impact Beyond the SC Team - In this live podcast episode recorded at Sol/Con 2026, Rew Dickinson, CEO and founder of Alpha Go-To-Market, joins co-hosts Jack Cochran and Matthew James to present a framework of four core skills that drive sales outcomes for solutions engineers.Â
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Connect with Rew Dickinson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rewdickinson/Â
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Key Topics Covered
The SE Talk-Time Problem: How Gong call analysis reveals SEs dominating conversations with product talk instead of listening
The Starbucks Story: Rew's revelation that SEs are often the most influential person in the sales cycle
Knowledge Layer: Why SEs must understand how prospect companies make money before demos
Storytelling for Pre-Sales: Shifting from product-centric to prospect-focused narratives
The iPhone Value Exercise: Live demonstration showing value exists in the gap between current and desired state
Discovery Beyond Requirements: Creating vision with questions like "If I shadowed your team for a week, what would I see slowing them down?"
Leadership and Taking a Stance: Why SEs need to be prescriptive ("you should") instead of offering endless options ("you could")
The Tenure Gap: SEs average 7 years versus sales reps at 2 years—and why SEs should leverage this expertise advantage - Alex Margolis joins the show with cohosts Jack Cochran and Mathew James to share his experience as a founding sales engineer, pulling back the curtain on what it's really like to be the first SE at a startup. Alex discusses his deliberate decision to target founding SE roles as a way to fast-forward his career after six years at a company with limited growth opportunities, expecting to build processes and lead strategically from day one. Instead, he found himself supporting eight AEs and an equal number of BDRs, running five demos a day in a high-velocity sales environment that left little time for the strategic work he'd been promised.
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Connect with Alex Margolis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexnmargolis/Â
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Presales Collective Podcast: https://www.presalescollective.com/podcastÂ
Key Topics Covered
Motivations for seeking founding SE roles and fast-forwarding your career
The sales assistant trap: expectations vs. reality of strategic involvement
Supporting eight AEs plus BDRs as the only SE in a high-velocity environment
Setting boundaries and tracking workload to prioritize effectively
Cross-functional relationship building as the company "facsimile"
Interview questions to ask when evaluating founding SE opportunities
Who the right fit is for high-volume founding SE roles
Finding company culture fit and working with good people - In this episode, Jack Cochran sits down with Paul Vogt, VP of Pre-Sales and Professional Services at GPG, to explore how building repeatable methodologies can transform solutions organizations at scale. The conversation dives deep into two powerful frameworks: the Technical Win Definition (5 binary yes/no questions that eliminate ambiguity and improve forecast accuracy) and the PGA Framework (Purpose, Goal, Agenda for planning every customer meeting).Â
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Thank you to Saleo for sponsoring this episode: https://saleo.ioÂ
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Connect with Paul Vogt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulvogt00/
Links and Resources Mentioned
Join Presales Collective Slack: https://presalescollective.com/slackÂ
Sol/Con 2026 (Chicago, August 2026): https://presalescollective.com/solcon-2026Â
Presales Collective Podcast: https://presalescollective.com/podcastÂ
Paul's Blog: https://www.art-of-sales-engineering.com/Â
Key Topics Covered
Paul's Career Journey: From Defense Contractor to Scaling Pre-Sales Teams at Twilio
The Alaska Cellular Network Project: Building the First Network in Remote Communities
Customer Lifecycle Gaps: Why 70% of Churn Happens During Onboarding
Technical Win Definition: Creating 5 Binary Questions to Eliminate Ambiguity
How Technical Win Criteria Improve Forecast Accuracy Better Than Sales Tracking
The PGA Framework: Purpose, Goal, Agenda for Every Customer Meeting
Warning Signs Your Organization Needs Repeatable Methodologies
Using Metrics to Identify Where Deals Slow Down (POC-to-Win Rates as Diagnostic)
The Lost Art of Prep Calls and Meeting Alignment
Practice and Preparation: Why Pre-Sales Professionals Should Train Like Athletes
Small Impactful Changes: The Ted Lasso Approach to Leadership
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