Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

In this episode, I answer two listener questions that highlight common challenges child-centered play therapists face in session and in communication with parents. First, I respond to a question about a child who unexpectedly leaves the playroom and begins knocking on another counselor's door. I explain how to think clearly about the actual limit in the situation, why identifying the correct limit is essential for offering effective choices, and how therapists can position themselves proactively once they know a child may try to leave the room. I also walk through examples of choices that map directly to the limit so the child can return to compliance while still maintaining the integrity of the play therapy process.
In the second question, I discuss how to handle parents who send frequent, lengthy emails analyzing their child's behavior. I explain why this often stems from parents' anxiety and their previous experiences with other systems like schools or medical providers. I emphasize the importance of clearly articulating communication expectations from the very first parent consultation and outline a simple script therapists can use to acknowledge emails without reinforcing constant communication. I also explain how to reset expectations with parents when boundaries were not clearly established at the beginning of the relationship.
PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!
Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.
If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.
Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: [email protected]
Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast
Common References:
Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

In this episode, I address something I see far too often in child-centered play therapy: therapists struggling to let children struggle. If it is painful for you to watch a child wrestle with frustration, anger, failure, or confusion in the playroom, we need to examine that. Returning responsibility is not a technical skill we check off a list — it is a philosophical commitment. When we subtly rescue, hint, guide, or ease a child's struggle, we undermine the very growth CCPT is designed to produce.
I revisit the butterfly-and-cocoon metaphor from the CPRT curriculum to illustrate why struggle is not harmful — it is strengthening. The resistance, frustration, and emotional intensity children experience in the playroom are the very processes that build regulation, grit, competence, and self-trust. Our role is not to fix, save, or soothe away difficulty. Our role is to stay grounded, neutral, and expectant — trusting that what the child is working through is exactly what they need. If we are internally distressed by their struggle, that is our work to do. Fidelity to the model requires that we celebrate the struggle, not relieve it.
PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!
Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.
If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.
Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: [email protected]
Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast
Common References:
Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

In this episode, I recap the second day of Field of Dreams and focus specifically on what I believe is one of the most crucial — and often overlooked — aspects of our work: engaging parents. We know CCPT works. We know the research supports it. But none of that matters if families drop out before the process has time to unfold. Attrition rates in CCPT are high, and most parents leave before the seventh session. That reality forces us to look inward. If parents are anxious, pushy, resistant, or distant, that is not simply a "difficult parent" problem — it's often a breakdown in how we are building trust.
I walk through two core frameworks: the Therapist Trust Triad and the Parent Partnership Pathway. The Trust Triad challenges us to evaluate ourselves in three domains — internal regulation, external clarity, and relational positioning — and to identify where our own breakdown may be occurring. The Parent Partnership Pathway reminds us that understanding and buy-in develop slowly over time. Parents in crisis cannot absorb everything about CCPT all at once. Engagement must be intentional, paced, and strategic. It's not about talking more or explaining more — it's about building trust in a way that allows families to stay long enough for the model to work.
The Field of Dreams training is now available on demand. You can get more information at playtherapynow.com. If you've ever wondered where you truly are developmentally in the model — and what it would take to move toward genuine mastery — this framework gives you the path. When we build depth before height, the entire field changes.
PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!
Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.
If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.
Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: [email protected]
Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast
Common References:
Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

In this lightning round episode, I tackle four listener questions that each highlight common pressure points in CCPT practice. First, I address a question about children who consistently want the lights turned off in session — particularly in the context of suspected trauma. I walk through the most common meanings behind darkness in play (power and control, fear, trauma associations, or simple symbolic necessity), and I explain how to honor the child's need while maintaining safety through clear "if you choose" limits.
Next, I respond to questions about dollhouse setup, competition between school-based clients, and aggressive toys. I clarify why the playroom must always reset to a blank slate, why we never concede to demands to pre-stage materials, and how to handle competitiveness when children compare sessions. I also provide practical guidance on toy guns and shooters — what is appropriate, what should be avoided, and why clearly "toy-like" features matter in a CCPT playroom.
Finally, I address two complex advocacy situations: when a pediatrician advises against CCPT during a high-conflict divorce, and when a severely traumatized child appears unable to engage in play therapy at all. In both cases, I emphasize calm, confident advocacy, collaboration over confrontation, and unwavering trust in the model. CCPT is not harmful when a child resists, dysregulates, or refuses to play — those behaviors often signal profound need. Our role is not to force progress, but to remain steady, patient, and faithful to the process.
PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!
Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.
If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.
Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: [email protected]
Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast
Common References:
Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

In this episode, I walk you through the Summit Framework — the developmental roadmap for mastery in child-centered play therapy that I presented at the Field of Dreams training. I believe one of the greatest challenges in our field is that we've never clearly defined how a therapist progresses toward true mastery. We learn the skills. We memorize the principles. But we're rarely shown how to stabilize under pressure and refine our foundation before moving higher. And when we skip that step, we crumble.
Mastery in CCPT is not about advancing quickly into insight-level work. It's about disciplined refinement of the fundamentals. If reflective responding breaks down when content is uncomfortable, if limit-setting collapses under chaos, if steadiness disappears when pressure rises — that's where the work is. Just like elite athletes still hit off a tee and master musicians still practice scales, we must return to basics in order to strengthen the tiers beneath us. In this episode, I outline the four levels of the Summit Framework and explain how video-based self-review becomes the pathway to real growth.
The Field of Dreams training is now available on demand.  You can get more information at playtherapynow.com. If you've ever wondered where you truly are developmentally in the model — and what it would take to move toward genuine mastery — this framework gives you the path. When we build depth before height, the entire field changes.
PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!
Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.
If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.
Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: [email protected]
Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast
Common References:
Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.