Nomad Futurist

In the latest episode of the Nomad Futurist Podcast, co-hosts Nabeel Mahmood and Phillip Koblence sit down with Bill Winsininski for a conversation that goes well beyond data center capacity, AI demand, and the rapid growth of digital infrastructure.
Bill’s path into the industry is anything but conventional. From his early years as a Navy search-and-rescue diver and English literature student at Berkeley to leadership roles spanning sales, consulting, AFCOM Chicago, and digital infrastructure, his career has shaped a lasting belief: the infrastructure may be physical, but the industry is fundamentally built on people.
“It has everything to do with the people. A hundred percent. And solving problems creatively with those people.”
That philosophy has guided Bill throughout his career. He reflects on understanding the perspectives of operations teams, facilities professionals, end users, and customers. Not simply to close a deal, but to build the trust that makes long-term partnerships possible. Even a single rack can represent the future of a customer’s business, making the work deeply personal.
The conversation also explores one of the industry’s most pressing challenges: earning the trust of the communities where digital infrastructure is being built.
As data centers become larger, more visible, and increasingly connected to the growth of AI, the industry is facing greater public scrutiny. Bill acknowledges that the sector has not always evolved quickly enough to explain its impact or engage communities meaningfully.
“We didn’t evolve to this point gracefully. It happened. It dropped on our lap.”
For Bill, building trust requires more than technical explanations or broad assurances. Communities want to understand how these projects support local contractors, create jobs, strengthen infrastructure and public services, and contribute to long-term economic development.
Bill also shares an optimistic perspective on the next generation entering the industry. Through his work with AFCOM Chicago and its emerging-professional programs, he has seen firsthand the curiosity, confidence, and energy young professionals bring to the sector. His advice is simple: don’t wait until you feel ready.
Go to the event. Introduce yourself. Take the difficult meeting. Ask the question. Get uncomfortable. And, most importantly, be willing to fail.
“Don’t be afraid to fail. In your twenties, don’t be afraid to fail. Do it. Take those chances. Get uncomfortable.”
Bill’s story is ultimately a reminder that the future of digital infrastructure will not be defined by technology alone. It will be shaped by the people who build it, the relationships they create, and the trust they earn along the way.
Listen to the full episode of the Nomad Futurist Podcast for stories from the early days of colocation, reflections on leadership and mindfulness, insights on mentoring the next generation, and Bill’s perspective on building a more trusted, connected, and community-minded digital infrastructure industry.
To learn more about Bill Winsininski, connected with him on LinkedIn.

In a recent episode of the Nomad Futurist Podcast, hosts Nabeel Mahmood and Phillip Koblence welcome Cathal Quinn, CEO of MOY Roof Waterproofing System Specialists, for a deeply personal and inspiring conversation about resilience, redemption, and the experiences that shape great leaders.
Today, Cathal leads an industry-recognized business supporting critical infrastructure and data centers, but his journey to executive leadership was far from conventional. In a candid discussion, Cathal reflects on his early ambitions in athletics, the struggles that led him to the darkest point of his life, his battle with severe gambling addiction, and the long road of accountability, healing, and purpose that followed.
Long before stepping into the business world, Cathal was a teenager driven by basketball. At just twelve years old, he was working illegal pub shifts to afford his basketball shoes, finding purpose and belonging on the court. Those early experiences shaped the values that continue to define his leadership today: accountability, resilience, teamwork, and the ability to move forward after failure.
For Cathal, sports taught him an important lesson: mistakes are inevitable, but self-pity cannot be allowed to define the outcome:
“When you make a mistake, don't you dare hang your head and feel sorry for yourself... There's no time for self-pity."
However, Cathal’s journey also brought him to an incredibly difficult chapter. After reaching what he describes as rock bottom, he found himself standing at the edge of the Cliffs of Moher, contemplating ending his life. In that moment, it was not confrontation or judgment that changed his path, but compassion from an off-duty police officer who approached him with empathy and understanding.
That encounter became a defining moment in Cathal’s life, reinforcing the power of human connection and the importance of meeting people where they are:
“And that sentence that sticks with me to today... was probably the first time in my life that I remember an adult not being overly authoritative, and the words that I remember was, ‘You do not have to do this today.’”
Following treatment and the support of a mentor who recognized his potential, Cathal began the difficult process of rebuilding his life. Years later, he returned to MOY — the company he had once left — and took on the responsibility of leading it forward. His story is not simply one of overcoming adversity, but of committing every day to becoming a better person, parent, and leader.
Reflecting on his transformation, Cathal shares:
“I am so proud of the person I am today. I'm so happy with who I am today... I'm doing everything in my power today to be the best version I can be of myself, and that's all I can truly do.”
Cathal Quinn’s story is a powerful reminder that leadership is not defined by a perfect path, but by the courage to confront challenges, learn from the past, and continue moving forward. His journey demonstrates the impact of second chances, personal accountability, and the resilience required to create meaningful change.
Connect with Cathal Quinn on LinkedIn to continue the conversation and learn more about his experiences, insights, and leadership journey.

Travis D. Hahler joins Nomad Futurist Podcast co-hosts Nabeel Mahmood and Phillip Koblence for a conversation centered around growth, leadership, and the human side of transformation. With a background spanning psychology, neuroscience, business, and technology, Travis shares his perspective on why meaningful change requires more than new tools or strategies. It requires people to think differently, embrace uncertainty, and continue growing.
Throughout the conversation, Travis reflects on how some of the biggest opportunities in his career came from moments that pushed him outside of his comfort zone. He believes that discomfort is often where growth begins, explaining that the decisions that feel the riskiest are often the ones that lead to the greatest personal and professional development:
“If something is worth doing, it should scare you.”
Travis also dives into the evolving role of artificial intelligence and why organizations need to look beyond the technology itself. While many companies focus on implementing AI tools, he emphasizes that true transformation happens when people are prepared for the mindset shift that comes with them:
“Artificial intelligence is a very different implementation than I think most companies have ever really done because it is truly a mindset and belief shift of people.”
Beyond technology, Travis discusses the importance of resilience, curiosity, and learning from rejection. He shares how approaching challenges with an open mindset has shaped his journey, viewing setbacks not as barriers but as opportunities to adapt and move forward:
“I’m not someone who sees no as an end. I’m someone who sees no as an opportunity.”
From embracing discomfort to leading through technological change, Travis highlights the importance of keeping people at the center of innovation. His message is clear: the future will be shaped not only by the technology we build, but by the leaders who understand how to guide people through change.
To learn more about Travis D. Hahler, connect with him on LinkedIn.

The AI revolution may be fueled by chips, power, and data centers — but behind every billion-dollar development is a complex web of partnerships, risk, capital, and strategy.
In this episode of the Nomad Futurist Podcast, co-hosts Nabeel Mahmood and Phillip Koblence sit down with Kim McGrath, Partner at Kirkland & Ellis, whose work places her at the center of some of the most significant digital infrastructure transactions shaping the future of AI and the modern economy.
From advising on the landmark take-private of CyrusOne to helping navigate today's unprecedented wave of AI-driven development, Kim has witnessed firsthand how data centers have evolved from a niche asset class into one of the most sought-after sectors in global infrastructure.
One of Kim's most compelling observations is that despite the industry's rapid growth, many of today's challenges have no established playbook.
"Let's keep an open mind and try to really focus in on, ‘What do we see are the risks and how can you solve for those?’ It's not the case that this is the way we've always done things. Almost everything in this sector is new."
As developers race to meet the demands of AI, Kim discusses the staggering pace of growth, the confidence she continues to see from investors, and why the market still feels like it's only getting started:
"Demand we're seeing just grow at light speed. It still almost feels like we're at early innings in these transactions.”
The conversation also explores a fundamental shift occurring across the industry: success is no longer determined by any single company. Today's largest projects require unprecedented coordination among developers, hyperscalers, lenders, investors, technology providers, and local communities:
"It is 100% a team sport in this arena. You really have to look at the asset through its full life cycle and try to solve as much as possible for that full life cycle. Everybody has got to be hyper-coordinated."
Beyond the numbers, Kim offers a thoughtful perspective on the responsibility that comes with building digital infrastructure at scale. As data centers expand into new markets, she argues that community engagement and education must be treated as core components of development — not afterthoughts.
"I think first and foremost, education. There's a lot of information out there that is misinformation. Really having a high-level focus on education and what's specifically going on at each site is important. Education is really the key."
That message resonates deeply with the mission of the Nomad Futurist Foundation. As the industry continues to grow, closing the knowledge gap around digital infrastructure is more important than ever. Through education, awareness, and workforce development initiatives, the Foundation is helping students, communities, and future leaders better understand the critical role data centers play in powering our digital world.
Tune in for a fascinating conversation on the evolution of digital infrastructure, the realities of building for the AI era, and why education, collaboration, and trust will be just as important as technology in shaping what comes next.
To learn more about Kim McGrath, connect with her on LinkedIn.

In this special episode of Nomad Futurist, co-hosts Nabeel Mahmood and Phillip Koblence welcome Brittani Clarke Clayman and Jason Clayman — the first husband-and-wife duo to appear on the podcast. Together, they bring two complementary perspectives to one of the industry's most important challenges: preparing the next generation for the future of digital infrastructure while building stronger connections between technology and the communities it serves.
Brittani, Director of Marketing and Sustainability at ESI Total Fuel Management, has become a passionate advocate for community engagement, workforce development, and helping people better understand the role digital infrastructure plays in their everyday lives. Jason, an educator and curriculum leader at Dobyns-Bennett High School, offers valuable insight into how students discover career opportunities, develop critical skills, and prepare for an increasingly digital future.
Throughout the conversation, the pair explore the power of education, communication, and exposure, arguing that awareness must start early if the industry hopes to inspire future talent and address misconceptions about data centers and emerging technologies.
For Brittani, meaningful engagement begins with making complex topics accessible:
"I could speak at you, but if you're not understanding what I'm saying, then we're not communicating. I'm just throwing information at you."
The discussion examines why the industry must move beyond simply sharing information and instead focus on listening, understanding concerns, and creating authentic connections with the communities where digital infrastructure is growing.
Jason highlights the critical role educators play in introducing students to opportunities they may never otherwise encounter:
"If we do start at the younger and earlier levels of education, just getting them comfortable with it and kind of understanding what it is, not only does it help them, but it helps their families."
Together, they share practical ideas for how industry leaders, schools, and organizations like the Nomad Futurist Foundation — where they are both active members — can work together to expand awareness, create pathways into the industry, and help students see themselves in future technology careers.
Throughout the episode, Brittani and Jason stress the importance of creating opportunities for future generations, arguing that industry leaders have a responsibility to listen to the students and communities they hope to serve:
“I'm here because of you. We're here to serve you, so we need to know what it is that you need from us."
Together, Brittani and Jason remind us that the future of digital infrastructure depends not only on innovation, but on education, engagement, and investing in the next generation.
Connect with Brittani Clarke Clayman and Jason Clayman on LinkedIn to continue the conversation.