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Free Outside

Podcast Free Outside
Jeff Garmire
Welcome to "Free Outside," the ultimate podcast for outdoor enthusiasts! Join me, Jeff Garmire, as I blur the lines between trail running, Fastest Known Times (...

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  • From the Classroom to the Golden Ticket – Will Murray’s Road to Western States
    On this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, we welcome Will Murray, a math teacher, coach, and elite runner who recently punched his ticket to Western States 100. Will shares his unique journey from growing up in Georgia as a baseball player to rediscovering running after college, transitioning from cycling to trail racing, and ultimately shocking the ultra world with a Golden Ticket win at Black Canyon 100K.Our Black Canyon Coverage: https://youtu.be/SO-6YkxWczM?si=IXEDglz96vCwI6p7Support me by shopping at Janji.com and Garage Grown GearTopics:🏃‍♂️ Will’s path to teaching and endurance sports🚲 How cycling shaped his ultra-running success🎓 Balancing coaching, dorm duty, and training at a boarding school🏔️ His Silver Rush 50 debut—placing second in his first ultra🔥 How he prepped for Black Canyon 100K and handled the Arizona heat🧠 The mental strategies and self-talk routines that powered his breakthrough🏆 What it felt like to earn a Golden Ticket and his plans for Western States 100Will’s story is a testament to balancing a passion for running with a full-time career. Chapters:00:00 – Intro: Meet Will MurrayJeff introduces Will Murray—math teacher, coach, 2:32 marathoner, and now a Golden Ticket winner to Western States 100.02:00 – Growing Up: From Baseball to RunningWill shares his early years in Georgia, playing baseball and discovering running in high school.04:30 – A Roundabout Path to TeachingHow Will went from working at a bike shop and guiding cycling tours in France to studying math and eventually becoming a high school teacher in New Jersey.07:00 – Finding His Way Back to RunningAfter college, Will rediscovered endurance sports through bikepacking but shifted to running due to time constraints.09:30 – Jumping Into Ultras: Silver Rush 50Why he picked Leadville’s Silver Rush 50 as his first ultra—and how he shocked the field by finishing second.12:30 – Competing at Chuckanut 50KTesting himself against elite competition like Matt Daniels, Francesco Pupi, and Zach Perrin, and learning from a tough day.14:45 – Leadville 100: First 100-Miler ExperienceThe highs and lows of Leadville, racing in the mountains, and the emotional finish under the night sky.17:00 – Dreaming of Western StatesHow Leadville fueled his desire to chase a Golden Ticket, and the logistics of making it happen with a full-time teaching job.20:00 – Training for Black Canyon: The "Artistic" ApproachWill's unique training philosophy—balancing structured workouts with an intuitive approach.23:30 – Preparing for the Heat: Ice Sleeves & Indoor Treadmill RunsSimulating Arizona’s heat while training in New Jersey, and the cooling strategies that worked.25:00 – Race Day at Black Canyon: Going All InHow he ran with the front pack, handled key decision points, and executed his mental strategy.27:45 – The Big Move: Passing Eli HemmingThe moment he secured his Golden Ticket, the decision to push instead of fade, and staying locked in.29:15 – Crossing the Finish Line: Reality Sets InThe shock and joy of achieving his dream race entry, plus the practical side of getting a Golden Ticket home.31:00 – The Aftermath: Teaching, Training, and What’s NextReturning to school as a Western States athlete, student reactions, and how he’ll prepare for June.34:00 – Racing Without Pacers & Crew StrategyHow his sister became an impromptu crew chief, and the last-minute aid station pit crew he didn’t expect.36:30 – Mindset Mastery: The Key to Ultra SuccessBreaking down "Decision Time", self-talk strategies, and how he stays mentally strong in long races.41:00 – Looking Ahead to Western StatesGoals for June, training adjustments, and balancing it all while still teaching.44:00 – Final Thoughts & Advice for Non-Pro AthletesWhy you don’t need to be a full-time athlete to compete at the highest level in ultrarunning.46:00 – Outro: The Journey ContinuesWill reflects on what’s next and his excitement for Western States 100.
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  • Fueling the Dream: How Kelly Newlon Merges Cooking, Trail Running, and Athlete Representation
    I sit down with Kelly Newlon—runner, chef, agent, Nuggets fan, and all-around community builder. Kelly shares the journey of founding RAD (Real Athlete Diets), a business that blends her love for trail running and cooking, and how she went from feeding friends training for races to fueling elite athletes on FKTs and multi-day expeditions. We dive into what it takes to support endurance athletes, the challenges of meal planning for unpredictable cravings, and her work as an agent helping athletes navigate sponsorships and contracts. Kelly also shares insights into the outdoor industry, the growth of trail running, and the lessons she's learned from working with both brands and athletes.Find Kelly on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/radboulder/If you're curious about the intersection of performance, fueling, and the business of professional trail running, this episode is for you!Support us by checking out Janji.com and telling them we sent you TakeawaysKelly Newlon combines her passions for cooking and running.The idea for Rad, Real Athlete Diets came from a personal need.Entrepreneurship requires saying yes to many opportunities at first.Nutrition plays a crucial role in supporting FKTs and athletes.Flexibility and adaptability are key in meal planning for athletes.Building relationships with athletes and brands is essential.Kelly emphasizes the importance of emotional growth for young athletes.She prefers a retainer system over a percentage-based payment model.Understanding both athlete and brand perspectives is vital in representation.Kelly aims to empower athletes to manage their own careers. Brands prioritize community, marketing, and performance.Understanding a brand's ethos is crucial for athletes.Performance metrics directly influence sales.Athletes should highlight their sponsors in their content.The trail running community is growing rapidly.New brands are emerging, creating competition.Live streaming is changing the landscape of races.Athletes need to maintain a day job for stability.The sport allows for various levels of participation.Respecting the history of the sport is essential.Chapters00:00 Finding Community and Passion03:09 The Birth of Rad, Real Athlete Diets05:57 Navigating the Challenges of Entrepreneurship08:56 Supporting FKTs: The Role of Nutrition12:02 The Chef's Approach to Athlete Support15:13 The Transition to Athlete Representation18:00 Navigating Relationships in Athlete Management33:38 Understanding Brand Values in Sports Sponsorship42:51 The Growth and Evolution of Trail Running50:47 Challenges and Opportunities in the Trail Running Industry01:00:39 The Realities of Being a Professional Athlete
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  • Should You Sit in a Sauna or Just Run Faster? And other common running questions
    In this solo episode of The Free Outside Show, I’m answering some of the biggest running questions I’ve been getting lately—especially around heat training, endurance nutrition, speed work, Ketones, Sodium Bicarbonate, and recovery. I break down the best strategies for sauna sessions, heat adaptation, and passive heat training, plus how to avoid overdoing it.subscribe to the podcast, patreon, and substack!I also dive into race-day and ultra running nutrition, covering carbs, hydration, and gut training so you can perform your best without bonking. And of course, I tackle the big question of speed work—how often should you do it, why social media makes it seem like everyone is always running fast, and how to actually train smarter (not just harder).What I Cover in This Episode:🔥 Heat training 101 – Sauna vs. passive heat, how long to stay in, and when to back off🥤 Can you drink water in the sauna? (Yes, and here’s why it won’t ruin your adaptation)⚡ Ketones: Are they worth the hype? (And why I’m still trying to find out)🍫 Ultra running nutrition – The 5 food groups you need to balance fueling🏃‍♂️ Should you do more speed work? (And why the internet is probably lying to you)🧊 Cold plunges – When they help, when they hurt🛑 Why bad workouts don’t mean bad fitness – RPE, effort-based training, and confidence👟 Winter running gear tips – Keeping your legs warm to avoid injuryThis episode is packed with practical training advice for trail runners, ultrarunners, and endurance athletes. Whether you're training for a 100-miler, marathon, or your next big FKT, this will help you train smarter, fuel better, and avoid burnout.If you found this episode helpful, please leave a 5-star review, subscribe on YouTube, and share it with a friend!📩 Got a running question? Drop it in the comments or email me!📺 Subscribe on YouTube for more ultra running and FKT content!📖 Check out my Substack for weekly training tips & insights!Sound Bites"RPE helps gauge effort in training.""Trust your training plan and stick to it.""Life stress affects training performance.""A 10-minute run is better than no run."Chapters00:00 Introduction to Heat Training04:13 Exploring Ketones and Recovery08:02 Nutrition Strategies for Endurance Athletes11:53 Understanding Perceived Exertion in Training15:58 The Importance of Cross Training20:09 Managing Life Stress and Training Adaptations22:03 Final Thoughts and Gear RecommendationsKeywordsheat training, ketones, nutrition, perceived exertion, cross training, life stress, endurance athletes, rate of perceived exertion, how to get faster, sodium bicarb
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  • The Black Canyon 100K Preview: Rivalries, Predictions & Outlandish Advice
    We're back with the most requested guest of the Free Outside Podcast—except it's just me requesting him. For his third appearance, Derrick Lytle joins the show to break down the Black Canyon 100K with the most in-depth, possibly inaccurate, but definitely entertaining preview out there. We discuss the dreamers and receivers of golden tickets, the state of ultra running rivalries (hint: we just ignited one), and why Hayden Hawks could still win this race from New Zealand. We also cover influencer participation (or lack thereof), how to look good for the live stream, and public domain excuses you can use if your race goes sideways. Other highlights include: 🔹 The five archetypes of Black Canyon runners 🔹 A deep dive into the best names on the entrants list 🔹 Wild predictions, race-day advice, and a discussion on whether Stringbean is actually vegan 🔹 Why Spring Energy should pivot to baby food and how the Jeffreys hold more influence than Ultra Runner of the Year If you were looking for a serious preview, you might be in the wrong place. But if you want satire, questionable facts, and maybe even the best Black Canyon coverage out there—we’ve got you covered. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Black Canyon Preview 02:59 Creating Unique Content at Black Canyon 05:56 Trail Running Rivalries and Drama 09:01 The Five Types of Runners 12:13 Golden Ticket Dreamers and Receivers 14:58 Influencers in Trail Running 18:03 The State of the Economy and Running Events 23:56 Predictions and Favorites for Upcoming Races 30:00 The Landscape of Ultra Running and Influencers 35:58 Advice for Runners: Nutrition and Strategy 43:03 Fitness Bravado: Intimidation Tactics at the Start Line 44:17 Analyzing Race Strategies and Performance 45:48 The Virtual Running Experience 46:52 Creative Excuses for Race Performance 51:34 The Importance of Presentation in Racing 56:29 Predictions and Insights for Upcoming Races 01:05:02 The Marketing Team for Hayden Hawks 01:06:17 Predictions for Hayden's Success 01:07:14 Women’s Ultra Running Contenders 01:08:58 Intriguing Stories in Ultra Running 01:11:01 Unique Names in Ultra Running 01:16:00 Celebrity Runners and Their Impact 01:20:41 Final Predictions and Closing Thoughts keywords: Black Canyon 100k, trail running, FKT, content creation, running rivalries, golden ticket, influencers, ultra running, race preview, running community, ultra running, race predictions, nutrition advice, fitness strategies, influencer culture, running, race strategies, virtual running, race performance, excuses, race predictions, ultra running, athlete insights, race presentation, Hayden Hawks, Hayden Hawks, ultra running, predictions, women's running, unique names, celebrity runners, race predictions
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  • Trail Magic to Course Records: Grant Barnette’s Evolution
    On today’s episode of the Free Outside Show, we’re joined by Grant Barnette—a thru-hiker turned Pro ultrarunner who has tackled some of the toughest races in the world. Grant has hiked the Appalachian Trail and Pacific Crest Trail, holds the DC Peaks 50 course record, placed 2nd at Grindstone 100, 5th at Speedgoat 50K, and was the third American at CCC at UTMB. Most recently, he signed a pro contract with Craft. Follow Grant online: https://www.instagram.com/runwithgrant/ We dive into how he transitioned from carrying a heavy pack on the PCT to discovering Angeles Crest 100 in middle of a thru-hike, his nomadic lifestyle living out of his truck while chasing FKTs, and his journey through ski mountaineering and backcountry adventures in Utah. He shares his take on training with a job, fueling strategies, sponsorships, and the challenges of race selection for the US Trail Team. Plus, we discuss the controversial selection process for the World Trail Running Championships, how social media and live-streaming influence race prestige, and what it’s like lining up next to Jim Walmsley at UTMB. Takeaways Grant Barnett has a rich background in trail running and ultra events. The transition from through-hiking to competitive running can be inspired by encounters on the trail. Living in a truck and pursuing a passion for running can lead to unexpected opportunities. Ski mountaineering offers a unique training method for ultra running. The importance of mentorship in outdoor sports is highlighted through Grant's relationship with Joey Campanelli. Media coverage significantly influences race popularity and athlete opportunities. Qualifying races for championships may not always reflect true mountain running skills. The culture of ski resorts can mirror the lifestyle of through-hikers. Nutrition and hydration strategies change drastically in winter sports. Community support and shared experiences are vital in the outdoor sports world. Wasatch 100 is a historic race but lacks hype. Experiencing a DNF can be deeply embarrassing. Bouncing back from a DNF is crucial for growth. The bond between twin athletes can be unique and supportive. Modern running science is complex and ever-evolving. Finding what works for your body is essential in fueling. Crew support can significantly impact race performance. The emotional toll of racing can be challenging to navigate. The evolution of race formats keeps the sport dynamic. Shoes and gear have advanced significantly in recent years. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Grant Barnett and His Achievements 02:55 The Journey to Trail Running 06:04 Life Changes and New Beginnings in Salt Lake City 09:05 Trail Names and Film Appearances 12:05 Ski Mountaineering and Training Techniques 15:02 World Championship Disappointments and Race Qualifiers 26:09 The Legacy of Wasatch 100 29:11 The Evolution of Golden Ticket Races 32:57 The Emotional Toll of DNF 35:31 Bouncing Back: Success at DC Peaks 37:20 The Unique Bond of Twin Athletes 39:11 Navigating Modern Running Science 44:17 The Importance of Crew Support Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside
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Welcome to "Free Outside," the ultimate podcast for outdoor enthusiasts! Join me, Jeff Garmire, as I blur the lines between trail running, Fastest Known Times (FKTs), thru-hiking, backpacking, and all endurance. With 20 FKTs under my belt, a book, a movie, and plenty of unconventional experiences, I'm here to share my adventures and insights. Expect engaging interviews and fun interactions with guests who excel in various ways. Whether we're discussing the art of slowly running through forests, the thrill of a challenging hike, or simply an appreciator of beauty and comedy, here we are.
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