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  • #329 Building Trust in AI Agents with Shane Murray, Senior Vice President of Digital Platform Analytics at Versant Media
    Data quality and AI reliability are two sides of the same coin in today's technology landscape. Organizations rushing to implement AI solutions often discover that their underlying data infrastructure isn't prepared for these new demands. But what specific data quality controls are needed to support successful AI implementations? How do you monitor unstructured data that feeds into your AI systems? When hallucinations occur, is it really the model at fault, or is your data the true culprit? Understanding the relationship between data quality and AI performance is becoming essential knowledge for professionals looking to build trustworthy AI systems.Shane Murray is a seasoned data and analytics executive with extensive experience leading digital transformation and data strategy across global media and technology organizations. He currently serves as Senior Vice President of Digital Platform Analytics at Versant Media, where he oversees the development and optimization of analytics capabilities that drive audience engagement and business growth. In addition to his corporate leadership role, he is a founding member of InvestInData, an angel investor collective of data leaders supporting early-stage startups advancing innovation in data and AI. Prior to joining Versant Media, Shane spent over three years at Monte Carlo, where he helped shape AI product strategy and customer success initiatives as Field CTO.Earlier, he spent nearly a decade at The New York Times, culminating as SVP of Data & Insights, where he was instrumental in scaling the company’s data platforms and analytics functions during its digital transformation. His earlier career includes senior analytics roles at Accenture Interactive, Memetrics, and Woolcott Research. Based in New York, Shane continues to be an active voice in the data community, blending strategic vision with deep technical expertise to advance the role of data in modern business.In the episode, Richie and Shane explore AI disasters and success stories, the concept of being AI-ready, essential roles and skills for AI projects, data quality's impact on AI, and much more.Links Mentioned in the Show:Versant MediaConnect with ShaneCourse: Responsible AI PracticesRelated Episode: Scaling Data Quality in the Age of Generative AI with Barr Moses, CEO of Monte Carlo Data, Prukalpa Sankar, Cofounder at Atlan, and George Fraser, CEO at FivetranRewatch RADAR AI New to DataCamp?Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile appEmpower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business
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  • #328 The Challenges of Enterprise Agentic AI with Manasi Vartak, Chief AI Architect at Cloudera
    The promise of AI in enterprise settings is enormous, but so are the privacy and security challenges. How do you harness AI's capabilities while keeping sensitive data protected within your organization's boundaries? Private AI—using your own models, data, and infrastructure—offers a solution, but implementation isn't straightforward. What governance frameworks need to be in place? How do you evaluate non-deterministic AI systems? When should you build in-house versus leveraging cloud services? As data and software teams evolve in this new landscape, understanding the technical requirements and workflow changes is essential for organizations looking to maintain control over their AI destiny.Manasi Vartak is Chief AI Architect and VP of Product Management (AI Platform) at Cloudera. She is a product and AI leader with more than a decade of experience at the intersection of AI infrastructure, enterprise software, and go-to-market strategy. At Cloudera, she leads product and engineering teams building low-code and high-code generative AI platforms, driving the company’s enterprise AI strategy and enabling trusted AI adoption across global organizations. Before joining Cloudera through its acquisition of Verta, Manasi was the founder and CEO of Verta, where she transformed her MIT research into enterprise-ready ML infrastructure. She scaled the company to multi-million ARR, serving Fortune 500 clients in finance, insurance, and capital markets, and led the launch of enterprise MLOps and GenAI products used in mission-critical workloads. Manasi earned her PhD in Computer Science from MIT, where she pioneered model management systems such as ModelDB — foundational work that influenced the development of tools like MLflow. Earlier in her career, she held research and engineering roles at Twitter, Facebook, Google, and Microsoft.In the episode, Richie and Manasi explore AI's role in financial services, the challenges of AI adoption in enterprises, the importance of data governance, the evolving skills needed for AI development, the future of AI agents, and much more.Links Mentioned in the Show:ClouderaCloudera Evolve ConferenceCloudera Agent StudioConnect with ManasiCourse: Introduction to AI AgentsRelated Episode: RAG 2.0 and The New Era of RAG Agents with Douwe Kiela, CEO at Contextual AI & Adjunct Professor at Stanford UniversityRewatch RADAR AI New to DataCamp?Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile appEmpower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business
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  • #327 Building a Sales and Marketing Capability for Data Applications with Denise Persson, CMO at Snowflake, and Chris Degnan, former CRO at Snowflake
    The journey from startup to billion-dollar enterprise requires more than just a great product—it demands strategic alignment between sales and marketing. How do you identify your ideal customer profile when you're just starting out? What data signals help you find the twins of your successful early adopters? With AI now automating everything from competitive analysis to content creation, the traditional boundaries between departments are blurring. But what personality traits should you look for when building teams that can scale with your growth? And how do you ensure your data strategy supports rather than hinders your AI ambitions in this rapidly evolving landscape?Denise Persson is CMO at Snowflake and has 20 years of technology marketing experience at high-growth companies. Prior to joining Snowflake, she served as CMO for Apigee, an API platform company that went public in 2015 and Google acquired in 2016. She began her career at collaboration software company Genesys, where she built and led a global marketing organization. Denise also helped lead Genesys through its expansion to become a successful IPO and acquired company. Denise holds a BA in Business Administration and Economics from Stockholm University, and holds an MBA from Georgetown University.Chris Degnan is the former CRO at Snowflake and has over 15 years of enterprise technology sales experience. Before working at Snowflake, Chris served as the AVP of the West at EMC, and prior to that as VP Western Region at Aveksa, where he helped grow the business 250% year-over-year. Before Aveksa, Chris spent eight years at EMC and managed a team responsible for 175 select accounts. Prior to EMC, Chris worked in enterprise sales at Informatica and Covalent Technologies (acquired by VMware). He holds a BA from the University of Delaware.In the episode, Richie, Denise, and Chris explore the journey to a billion-dollar ARR, the importance of customer obsession, aligning sales and marketing, leveraging data for decision-making, and the role of AI in scaling operations, and much more.Links Mentioned in the Show:SnowflakeSnowflake BUILDConnect with Denise and ChrisSnowflake is FREE on DataCamp this weekRelated Episode: Adding AI to the Data Warehouse with Sridhar Ramaswamy, CEO at SnowflakeRewatch RADAR AI New to DataCamp?Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile appEmpower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business
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  • #326 Is the Data Analyst Role Dying Out? with Mo Chen, Data & Analytics Manager at NatWest Group
    The role of data analysts is evolving, not disappearing. With generative AI transforming the industry, many wonder if their analytical skills will soon become obsolete. But how is the relationship between human expertise and AI tools really changing? While AI excels at coding, debugging, and automating repetitive tasks, it struggles with understanding complex business problems and domain-specific challenges. What skills should today's data professionals focus on to remain relevant? How can you leverage AI as a partner rather than viewing it as a replacement? The balance between technical expertise and business acumen has never been more critical in navigating this changing landscape.Mo Chen is a Data & Analytics Manager with over seven years of experience in financial and banking data. Currently at NatWest Group, Mo leads initiatives that enhance data management, automate reporting, and improve decision-making across the organization. After earning an MSc in Finance & Economics from the University of St Andrews, Mo launched a career in risk and credit portfolio management before transitioning into analytics. Blending economics, finance, and data engineering, Mo is skilled at turning large-scale financial data into actionable insight that supports efficiency and strategic planning. Beyond corporate life, Mo has become a passionate educator and community-builder. On YouTube, Mo hosts a fast-growing channel (185K+ subscribers, with millions of views) where he breaks down complex analytics concepts into bite-sized, actionable lessons.In the episode, Richie and Mo explore the evolving role of data analysts, the impact of AI on coding and debugging, the importance of domain knowledge for career switchers, effective communication strategies in data analysis, and much more.Links Mentioned in the Show:Mo’s Website - Build a Data Portfolio WebsiteMo’s YouTube ChannelConnect with MoGet Certified as a Data AnalystRelated Episode: Career Skills for Data Professionals with Wes Kao, Co-Founder of MavenRewatch RADAR AI New to DataCamp?Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile appEmpower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business
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  • #325 Using Data to Master the Cycles of Leadership with Carolyn Dewar, Global Practice Leader at McKinsey
    Leadership in data-driven organizations requires a delicate balance of technical expertise and human understanding. As businesses navigate unprecedented uncertainty in global markets, geopolitics, and technological change, the role of data as a source of truth becomes increasingly vital. But how do you create a culture where data informs decisions at every level? What separates leaders who merely collect data from those who leverage it to drive bold, transformative action? For data professionals looking to advance their careers, the challenge extends beyond technical skills to understanding how data connects to broader business strategy and organizational purpose.Carolyn Dewar is the founder and global co-leader of McKinsey & Company’s CEO Practice, where she partners with CEOs, founders, boards, and senior executives to help them maximize their effectiveness and lead their organizations through critical moments, including hypergrowth, transformation, crises, and mergers. Drawing on her extensive research and experience, Carolyn works with leaders across all stages of the CEO journey to drive large-scale organizational change, set bold strategies, and shape company culture to align leadership teams, manage external stakeholders, and optimize executive time and operating models. She helps CEOs develop the mindsets and frameworks needed to succeed in their role, ensuring they deliver lasting impact and sustainable growth.A recognized thought leader, Carolyn is the co-author of CEO Excellence: The Six Mindsets That Distinguish the Best Leaders from the Rest (a New York Times bestseller) and A CEO for All Seasons: Mastering the Cycles of Leadership. She publishes the monthly Strategic CEO newsletter and has contributed over 30 articles to Harvard Business Review, The Conference Board, and McKinsey Quarterly. Carolyn is also a member of the McKinsey Global Institute Council, which advises on MGI’s research on global economic, business, and technology trends. With over 25 years of experience advising clients across industries, including financial services, technology, and consumer sectors, Carolyn is also a sought-after keynote speaker and panelist at global conferences.In the episode, Richie and Carolyn explore common mistakes for CEOs, the unique responsibilities of a CEO, the importance of data-driven decision-making, fostering a data-centric culture, aligning data and business strategies, and much more.Links Mentioned in the Show:CEO Excellence: The Six Mindsets That Distinguish the Best Leaders from the RestConnect with CarolynSkill Track: Artificial Intelligence (AI) LeadershipRelated Episode: From Panic to Profit, Via Data with Bill Canady, CEO at Arrowhead Engineered ProductsRewatch RADAR AI New to DataCamp?Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile appEmpower your business with world-class data and AI skills with
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