Awesome Marriage Podcast

Money is one of the biggest sources of conflict in marriage—but it doesn't have to be.
In this episode, Dr. Kim sits down with financial coaches Dan and Kay Ockey to talk about why money is so much more than numbers. They unpack how family backgrounds, emotions, communication, and faith all shape the way couples handle finances. You'll also hear practical steps for getting on the same page, creating healthy financial habits, and replacing fear with faithful stewardship.
Whether you're trying to pay off debt, build a budget, or simply have better conversations about money, this episode will encourage you to work as a team and steward what God has entrusted to you with confidence and purpose.

 
Episode Highlights:
Money is emotional. Learn how your past influences the way you spend, save, and give today.
Communication changes everything. Discover why a simple weekly financial check-in can strengthen your marriage.
Budgets create freedom, not limitations. Learn practical tools for managing money together with confidence.
Stewardship starts with trust. See how viewing your finances through God's perspective can bring greater peace and purpose.



Quotes from this Episode:
Dr. Kim Kimberling
"Money can quietly create stress and distance in a marriage if we're not intentional."

"Take a chance. Throw caution to the wind and say, 'God, I'm all in.' You'll see Him show up."

"A budget doesn't restrict your freedom—it gives you freedom because you know where your money is going."

"Your kids are watching your marriage. The way you steward your relationship becomes their textbook for the future."

 
Dan Ockey
"Most couples agree on where they want to go—they just disagree on how to get there."

"Everything we have belongs to God. Isn't it worth taking 20 minutes each week to talk about how we're stewarding it?"

"Data over drama. Acknowledge the emotions, then let the numbers show you reality."

"When we approach money with fear, we make fear-based decisions. When we approach it with faith, we become better stewards."

"The long-term consequences of hiding financial struggles are far worse than the short-term pain of an honest conversation."

 
Kay Ockey
"Money isn't just dollars and cents. There's so much emotion underneath every financial decision."

"The timing of your communication is huge. Don't spring financial conversations on your spouse."

"A simple weekly financial check-in can completely change the way you communicate about money."

"Just because you're an adult doesn't mean you automatically know how to handle money. It's a skill that can be learned."

"When you're overwhelmed, don't lose sight of having a goal that gives you hope and something to work toward together."


 
Time to Talk About it:
What messages about money did you learn growing up, and how do they still influence the way you handle finances today?

How can we create a regular time to talk about money so it feels like we're working together instead of against each other?

What is one financial goal we can begin pursuing together this month that would strengthen both our marriage and our trust in God?

 
Mentioned in This Episode:
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Money doesn't have to bring tension to your marriage. Check out the Money Masterclass with Dan and Kay

Check in weekly with your spouse.

27 Money Questions Every Couple Needs to Ask

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What if the biggest thing holding you back isn't a lack of opportunity, but fear?
In part two of Dr. Kim's conversation with Tom Pfeiffer, they explore what it takes to step into the life God is calling you to live. Tom shares how walking away from a successful legal career taught him that waiting for certainty often keeps us from taking the very steps that lead to growth.
Together, they discuss the cost of inaction, learning to let go of other people's opinions, changing the trajectory of your family legacy, and why being fully present with your spouse and children is one of the greatest investments you'll ever make.
Whether you're facing a career decision, feeling stuck, or simply wanting to live with greater purpose, this conversation will encourage you to stop waiting for the "perfect time" and start making intentional choices today.
 
Episode Highlights:
Stop waiting for certainty—action creates clarity.
Don't let other people's opinions dictate your future.
Choose presence with your family over the pursuit of success.
Build a legacy you'll be proud to look back on.
 
Quotes from this Conversation:
Tom Pfeiffer
"We always think you need certainty before action. But I think it's the opposite."

"We never really contemplate the cost of inaction. What did I miss by not doing that?"

"Far too often, you'll look back when you're 60, 70, or 80 years old and say, 'Man, I wish I did that.'"

"I honestly stopped caring what people think. It's a daily practice, but it's life-changing."

"Write down the names of the people whose opinions actually matter to you. I'll bet you're done in 30 seconds."

"The majority of people who have an opinion about what you're doing are usually just afraid to do it themselves."

"I was more afraid of staying where I was and not being a present dad than I was of making the change."

"It's not going to say 'JD' or 'Doctor' on your tombstone. It's going to say father, husband, son. Those are the things that matter."

"There are moments in life that are the last time you'll ever do something—and most of the time, you don't even know it."

"Sports are a vehicle for life. You have to be okay with adversity because that's where growth happens."

"You have to be okay with delayed gratification. You're going to crawl, then walk, then jog, then run."

"The version of you that you present every day is the driving factor behind the life you build."

 
Dr. Kim Kimberling
"There's such a profound satisfaction that comes from being the person who changes your family lineage."

"Most people don't think about us nearly as much as we think they do."

"If they're not on your list, don't give their opinion power over your life."

"Your spouse and your kids will know if you're not being who God created you to be."

"What's really important is the dash between the dates. What did you do with your time?"

"You can always find time for your family if you decide they're a priority."

"Your kids won't remember the career you built. They'll remember that you were there."

"If you're becoming the person God created you to be, everyone around you benefits."




Time to Talk About it:
Where in your life are you waiting for certainty before taking a step of faith, and what might happen if you took action instead?
Whose opinions have the biggest influence on your decisions, and are those the people whose voices should matter most?
If your spouse or children described what you prioritize with your time, what would they say—and does that align with the legacy you want to leave?

Just when you thought you couldn't love Dr. Kim and Mrs. Nancy more—this episode takes things to a whole new level. With honesty and heart, they open up about the real journey of their marriage—sharing the intentional choices, tough seasons, and deep faith that carried them through. From early challenges that could have pulled them apart to the daily decisions that drew them closer, their story reflects what's possible when a couple chooses to build on the foundation of Christ. Their marriage is both relatable and inspiring—a powerful reminder that when God is kept first, a marriage doesn't just survive—it thrives.
Episode Highlights:
Marriage takes intentionality.
Awesome marriages don't happen naturally.
No matter where your marriage is at there is hope!
Quotes from this Episode:
I think we had to build true love in our marriage.
We've learned to build bit by bit.
I thought if I loved you enough everything was going to be ok.
Until you realize how much God loves you as a person you aren't truly free to love another person.
Divorce isn't a word in our vocabulary anymore, commitment is!
Just getting married doesn't mean you won't feel alone. 
 
Couple's Conversation Guide:
What part of Dr. Kim and Nancy's story felt most relatable or surprising to you? Why?



Have you ever assumed love alone would be enough to fix everything? How has your view of love and commitment changed over time?



Have there been moments where one (or both) of you felt alone in your marriage? What helped reconnect you—or what could help now?



Is "divorce" or emotional withdrawal ever subtly present as an option in your mindset or language? What does it look like to choose commitment every day?



How can you better prioritize keeping God first in your marriage this week?



What's one thing you want to be intentional about after listening to this episode—together or individually?

 
Mentioned in this Episode:
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Joining me today are Dave and Ann Wilson who have written a brand new book about what it looks like to speak life into our marriages; not just with the words we say, but also in the thoughts we choose to dwell on. We'll talk about why trying to be your spouse's Holy Spirit never works, why kindness is actually one of the most rebellious things we can do in today's world, and how reframing our inner dialogue can change the way we manage conflict.
Whether you've been shouting to be heard, or quietly holding back the pain of unspoken expectations, today's conversation will offer biblical wisdom, practical tools, and fresh hope for building a marriage that reflects Christ's love. We pray this episode encourages you!



Episode Highlights:
How you approach the conversation matters. 
Hope and joy can only be in the Lord.
Your words have the power to build up or tear down your spouse.
Gratitude for your spouse can change your perspective of your spouse.
 
Quotes from Today's Episode:
"Men go where they're affirmed. They go there." - Dave Wilson
"I realize like when I'm in the Word, I look at things different. I look at the world different. I look at Dave different. And it started, God's Word started to change me." - Ann Wilson
But there's something that's really holy about seeing greatness in a person and being able to communicate it in some way." - Ann Wilson
"I had put all my hopes and dreams in Dave. I'd taken them off of Jesus and I was like, you could make me happy. And it's easy to get into that rut of like, if you would just do X, Y, Z, I could be more content." - Ann Wilson
God's given us to each other to sharpen one another- Dave Wilson
Speak life to your husband. Bring him back to be the man God created him to be. 
We can help shape how our husbands and how our kids feel about themselves, but we have to first connect with Jesus. - Ann Wilson
What good does it do to only think of the negative?
When I'm in the Word, I see the world different. I see Dave different.
You can't say everything you feel!



Couples' Conversation Guide:
How do we typically approach hard conversations with each other—and what could we do to make those moments feel safer and more affirming?



Have we unintentionally placed our hope or happiness in each other instead of in God? What would it look like to shift that back to Jesus as our source of joy?



What is one thing I genuinely admire or am grateful for in you that I may not say often enough? How can we be more intentional about calling out the good in each other?

 
Mentioned in this Episode:
Find Dave and Ann Wilson on IG.

How to Speak Life to Your Husband When All You Want to do is Yell at Him on Amazon

Dave and Ann Wilson's podcast: FamilyLife Today

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In this week's episode, Dr. Kim and Mrs. Nancy unpack the powerful topic of expectations—focusing on how to clearly express what you need from your spouse. With honest conversation, a willingness to listen, and an open heart, you can transform how you communicate and connect in your relationship.
Quotes from this episode:
"I just thought you knew. And when you didn't I would go along and get resentful"
"We were trying to fit each other in the mold." 
"Our first big argument scared the heck out of me. My unrealistic expectation was that we would never fight." 
"It's a good idea to have a signal or cue so that you make your spouse aware." 



Questions for Reflection:
What are some expectations—spoken or unspoken—that we each bring into our marriage, and how well do we feel they've been understood by each other?


When was a time we misunderstood one another because expectations weren't clearly communicated? What can we learn from that moment?


How can we create more space in our relationship for honest, judgment-free conversations about what we each need or hope for?


What's one expectation we can both express more clearly this week—and how can we support each other in meeting it with love and grace?
 
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:  
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If expectations feel like too big of a topic to tackle alone- try out Dr. Kim's Marriage Expectations Worksheet. He has used this resource in his counseling office for over thirteen years and now we are sharing it with you!

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