Write About Now

Joyce Maynard has been writing for 53 years. At 18, she landed on the cover of the New York Times Magazine, caught the eye of J.D. Salinger, and disappeared into a relationship that would define her for decades—until she finally told her story and was called a "predator" by Maureen Dowd. In this conversation, Joyce talks about being canceled before canceling was a thing, surviving as a Me Too survivor before Me Too became a movement, and why she returned to Yale at 65 only to discover she reads in the 17th percentile. 
TIMELINE:
00:35 Being canceled before it was a thing
01:47 The New York Times Magazine cover story at 18
03:29 JD Salinger's letter and the beginning of their relationship
04:30 Moving in with Salinger and giving up Yale
05:39 Keeping the secret for 25 years
06:22 Writing "At Home in the World" and the backlash
08:26 When 18-year-olds dating 53-year-olds was "romantic"
09:41 The Charlie Rose interview (and what happened after)
10:27 Why the culture turned against her in 1998
11:23 Can you separate the artist from the art?
13:25 Teaching memoir to women in Guatemala
15:45 Writing family sagas and "How the Light Gets In"
16:31 Growing up in a problematic family
17:00 Mother's writing bootcamp from age 3
22:23 Including real-world events (Trump, January 6th) in fiction
24:09 Writing is not therapy or catharsis
29:43 Throwing away manuscripts that aren't good enough
30:08 Discovering ADHD at Yale at age 65
32:08 The D-minus French exam that changed everything
34:22 Reading in the 17th percentile
36:39 The gift of ADHD
40:39 "You cannot be a writer if you're not a reader" - and why that's wrong
41:48 Character-first vs. plot-first writing
43:33 Never knowing where the story will end (vs. John Irving)
44:18 No outlines - "outline is for a term paper"
46:22 Finding inspiration in news headlines
47:49 Why some stories are memoir and others are fiction
50:48 On sensitivity readers and the transgender character
51:44 When characters display "politically incorrect" attitudes
52:57 Fear of cancellation from the left
53:29 Trigger warnings at Yale and the softening of everything

Since its debut on Apple TV Plus, Pluribus has sparked an unusually intense response. Viewers not only watch it, they debate it and project onto it. Executive Producer Alison Tatlock talks about why the series has connected so deeply with audiences. We dig into the emotional problem at the center of the show, how skepticism shapes its characters, and why discomfort is doing more of the storytelling than plot twists or spectacle. We also talk about writing restraint, trusting viewers, and building a world that feels strange but uncomfortably familiar. 
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People in their 50s are confronting a financial reality nobody prepared us for. We grew up assuming steady careers, pensions, and a clear path to retirement. Instead, we're juggling layoffs, credit card debt, college tuition, aging parents, and rising healthcare costs, all while wondering what "retirement" even means anymore. Kerry Hannon and Janna, co-authors of Retirement Bites: A Gen X Guide to Securing Your Financial Future, break down how our generation ended up here and offer practical steps we can take now to build a future that feels possible, not panicked. Even if you're not Gen X, there is practical and useful advice for you here. 
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Former Hollywood TV writer Amy Suto walked away from Hollywood to build a seven-figure freelance writing business. She talks about the 3 pillars that got her there, the Substack tweaks that added $100,000 in value, and why self-publishing can earn more than traditional book deals. Amy's new book is Write for Money and Power: The Anti-Starving Artist's Guide to Becoming a Seven-Figure Writer.
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Lili Zarghami spent decades working in women's magazines before realizing none of them were speaking to women like her anymore. After turning 40 and getting laid off, she decided to create Jenny Mag—a digital magazine for Gen X women who don't fit the cookie-cutter mold of traditional women's media. In this conversation, we discuss why dating stories outperform health content, the complicated relationships Gen X women have with their Boomer mothers, what it's like running a magazine on nights and weekends with zero budget, and why owning your platform matters when you've been disposable to corporate publishers one too many times. Lili also opens up about empty nesting with twins, being back in the dating world after 25 years of marriage, and creating content that makes readers say "I thought it was just me." 
This episode originally aired on my new podcast Small Talk.
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