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- A solid technical case rarely wins the decision if the CFO, the CEO and the board can't follow it.
Jens Heitland, founder of Heitland Media Group and former Global Head of Innovation at IKEA Centres, joins Adam Horner on The CTO Playbook to explore how technology leaders can build authority beyond their job titles, adapt their communication to different audiences, and turn complex technical ideas into clear business outcomes.
Jens and his team help CEOs and management teams position themselves as thought leaders in their industries.
Jens shares how leaving his corporate role taught him the importance of building influence of his own, rather than relying on the reputation of the company he represented. He also recounts a meeting with a CFO that sent him home to prepare again, and why explaining innovation in terms of customer excitement wasn't enough without showing its financial value.
Through practical examples, including using a car to explain a complex project, Jens shows how CTOs can simplify their message without losing its meaning, connect technical decisions to business priorities, and build shared understanding with stakeholders. He also shares a practical approach to improving communication through testing, feedback and a 30-day video challenge.
In this episode, he explains:
■ 𝗕𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗜𝗻𝗳𝗹𝘂𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗕𝗲𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗱 𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗝𝗼𝗯 𝗧𝗶𝘁𝗹𝗲: Why executives need to develop their own authority, share their perspectives, and build thought leadership beyond the company they represent.
■ 𝗥𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗥𝗼𝗼𝗺: How understanding people's intentions, priorities and communication styles helps leaders adapt without losing their authenticity.
■ 𝗧𝗿𝗮𝗻𝘀𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗻𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝘆 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗼 𝗕𝘂𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗩𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗲: Why CTOs need to connect technical projects to financial outcomes, return on investment, and the priorities of executive stakeholders.
■ 𝗦𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗹𝗶𝗳𝘆, 𝗭𝗼𝗼𝗺 𝗢𝘂𝘁, 𝗭𝗼𝗼𝗺 𝗜𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗟𝗼𝗼𝗽 𝗕𝗮𝗰𝗸: How a familiar analogy like a car, and moving between the bigger picture and the detail, helps stakeholders understand a complex project and why it matters to them.
■ 𝗧𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗠𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲: Why CTOs should practise their messaging with their own teams first, and how recording yourself on your phone, as in Jens's 30-day challenge, builds the skill through repetition.
■ 𝗕𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗟𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗽 𝗠𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗮𝘁𝗲: Why new CTOs should clarify what they were hired to accomplish, communicate that purpose from day one, and reinforce it throughout their first 100 days.
Build your own CTO Playbook at www.theCTOplaybook.com, the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey. Coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact.
You'll Learn:
[0:00] Introduction
[2:15] From Electrical Engineer to Global Head of Innovation at IKEA Centres
[4:50] Why Influence Must Extend Beyond Your Job Title
[6:00] Learning to Read the Room and Understand People
[7:35] How Communication Shapes Executive Influence
[10:28] Understanding Your Superpowers, Values, and Leadership Identity
[13:22] Why CTOs Need to Adapt Their Message to Different Audiences
[14:00] The CFO Meeting That Changed Jens's Approach to Communication
[16:40] Translating Technical Language into Financial Value
[17:29] Using Simple Analogies to Explain Complex Projects
[19:28] Why Simplifying Communication Creates Shared Understanding
[21:19] Zooming Out, Zooming In, and Looping Back to Business Goals
[24:03] How to Position Technology Leadership Around Business Strategy
[25:57] Testing Your Ideas and Building Influence Within Your Team
[27:30] Applying the Engineering Testing Mindset to Communication
[29:18] A Practical Step-by-Step Approach to Better Executive Communication
[30:01] The 30-Day Video Challenge for Improving Communication Skills
[32:46] Why Great Communicators Build Their Skills Through Repetition
[34:08] Learning by Doing, Experimenting, and Putting Yourself Out There
[35:23] Jens's Advice for CTOs Starting Their Leadership Journey
Follow Jens Heitland:
■ LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/jensheitland
■ Free Authority Audit: Jens and his team at Heitland Media Group offer a free Authority Audit that shows you how outside parties see you. It's open to CTOs as well as CEOs. Book at https://calendly.com/jens-heitlandmediagroup/ceo-authority-audit- and mention The CTO Playbook in the booking comment.
■ Running challenge: Jens is starting a new personal challenge for a good cause, running every day for another year and 100 km every week.
The CTO Playbook:
■ Build your own CTO Playbook at https://www.thectoplaybook.com, the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey, coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact.
■ Follow Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamhorner/
■ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheCTOplaybook
■ Prefer listening? Catch the podcast: https://bit.ly/thectoplaybook - Most leaders treat impostor syndrome as something they need to overcome. But what if the belief that you're not good enough is actually serving a purpose?
Adrian Koehler is a leadership coach at Take New Ground. He has spent 15 years coaching founders and technical leaders.
He joins Adam Horner on The CTO Playbook to explore why leaders hold on to self-doubt, what they gain from it, and what it costs them.
Adrian explains why feeling like a fraud can be good news. It often means you're stepping beyond what you've already proved you can do. But the belief can also offer a sense of safety, giving you reasons to hide, hold back ideas, or wait until you're certain before acting.
Through his approach to "hugging the cactus," Adrian challenges leaders to face uncomfortable truths about themselves and compare how they see themselves with what their teams actually see. He also shares a practical eight-step process for working through impostor syndrome.
In this episode, he explains:
■ 𝗥𝗲𝗳𝗿𝗮𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗜𝗺𝗽𝗼𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗿 𝗦𝘆𝗻𝗱𝗿𝗼𝗺𝗲: Why feeling like a fraud can be a sign that you're stepping beyond what you've already proved, rather than evidence that you don't belong.
■ 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗛𝗶𝗱𝗱𝗲𝗻 𝗣𝗮𝘆𝗼𝗳𝗳𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝗦𝗲𝗹𝗳-𝗗𝗼𝘂𝗯𝘁: How believing you're an impostor can give you permission to hide, hold back ideas, and avoid difficult situations.
■ 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗖𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝗟𝗶𝗺𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗕𝗲𝗹𝗶𝗲𝗳𝘀: Why the stories that help you feel safe can limit your confidence, relationships, and impact as a leader.
■ 𝗛𝘂𝗴𝗴𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗖𝗮𝗰𝘁𝘂𝘀: How facing the things you don't want to see about yourself can turn them from a threat into an early warning sign.
■ 𝗦𝗲𝗹𝗳-𝗣𝗲𝗿𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝘃𝘀. 𝗥𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆: Why asking the people you work with what they actually see can challenge the assumptions you hold about yourself.
■ 𝗣𝘂𝗿𝗽𝗼𝘀𝗲𝗳𝘂𝗹 𝗜𝗺𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗳𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻: Why sharing unfinished ideas and fully participating beats holding back until everything feels perfect.
■ 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗘𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁-𝗦𝘁𝗲𝗽 𝗣𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗯𝗼𝗼𝗸: How owning the belief, listing its payoffs and prices, and checking it against reality can help you decide what to do differently.
Build your own CTO Playbook at www.theCTOplaybook.com, the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey. Coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact.
You'll Learn:
[0:00] Introduction
[1:34] Adrian's Four Careers and His Heart for Engineers
[7:46] Adam's Shadow on a London Bike Ride
[9:35] Why People Love a Diagnosis
[9:52] Why Impostor Syndrome Can Be Good News
[11:16] How Certainty Becomes a Source of Loneliness
[16:03] The Hidden Payoffs of Impostor Syndrome
[18:53] Identifying the Complaints You Choose to Keep
[20:14] Counting the Prices of the Belief
[24:14] Asking What Was Missing From You as a Leader
[28:51] What "Hugging the Cactus" Really Means
[34:14] Being Purposefully Imperfect
[35:32] Adrian's Eight Steps for Working Through Impostor Syndrome
[40:48] Why It's Hard to Be a Human
[43:25] Where to Connect With Adrian
Follow Adrian Koehler:
■ Email: adrian@takenewground.com
■ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriankoehler/
■ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adrian.k/
■ Website: https://takenewground.com
The CTO Playbook:
■ Build your own CTO Playbook at https://www.thectoplaybook.com, the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey, coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact.
■ Follow Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamhorner/
■ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheCTOplaybook
■ Prefer listening? Catch the podcast: https://bit.ly/thectoplaybook - AI has made building software dramatically faster. The problem is that the rest of the engineering system hasn’t caught up.
AI agents can now produce code, tests, documentation, migrations, and pull requests at a pace most engineering organisations weren’t designed to handle. But when everything around code review accelerates, review becomes the bottleneck. Pull requests pile up, reviewers spend more time reconstructing intent, and experienced engineers can end up reduced to repeatedly saying yes or sending work back for fixes.
Adam Horner explores why making code review faster isn’t enough. The deeper problem is that teams are often reviewing the output instead of the decisions that produced it. The episode looks back at the evolution of compilers, when engineers moved from inspecting machine code to trusting verified outcomes, and asks whether AI-assisted development is creating a similar shift in software engineering.
The answer is a move upstream. Instead of relying on code review to recover intent, teams can review the goal, requirements, constraints, boundaries, invariants, architecture, and increasingly the agent definitions and context that guide how software gets built.
Adam calls this “building the builder.” The idea is simple: when something goes wrong, don’t just fix the output. Improve the system that produced it so every future change benefits.
Build your own CTO Playbook at www.theCTOplaybook.com, the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey. Coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact.
You’ll Learn:
[0:00] Why AI-powered development is creating a new review bottleneck
[4:07] What the history of compilers teaches us about AI engineering
[8:26] Why faster code review doesn’t solve the real problem
[12:10] Moving engineering review upstream to intent and design
[16:22] Building the builder and improving the development system
The CTO Playbook:
■ Build your own CTO Playbook at https://www.thectoplaybook.com, the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey, coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact.
■ Follow Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamhorner/
■ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheCTOplaybook
■ Prefer listening? Catch the podcast: https://bit.ly/thectoplaybook - AI adoption is getting easier for everyone. The harder question is whether you're using it to optimise the game you're already in, or to build a position that changes the game.
Ritavan, author of The System Gambit and Data Impact, returns to The CTO Playbook after his first appearance on episode 30.
A System Gambit is a deliberate sacrifice that builds a structural advantage that compounds. Rather than optimising within the system you're already in, it changes the system so competitors can't simply buy or copy their way to your position.
Ritavan explains the difference between a System Gambit and a System Anti-Gambit, using Nokia and Amazon as examples. He also explains why adding AI to the data your business already generates tends to keep you inside your existing paradigm.
Adam then puts his own move from fractional CTO work to coaching through Ritavan's three tests: self-improving loops, path dependence, and management logic antagonism.
In this episode, he explains:
■ 𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗮 𝗦𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺 𝗚𝗮𝗺𝗯𝗶𝘁 𝗜𝘀: Why a deliberate sacrifice now can unlock a structural advantage that compounds.
■ 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗦𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺 𝗔𝗻𝘁𝗶-𝗚𝗮𝗺𝗯𝗶𝘁: Why optimising inside your current system is rational, and why it leaves you exposed when a rival changes the game.
■ 𝗔𝗴𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗪𝗶𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗮 𝗧𝗵𝗲𝘀𝗶𝘀: What Nokia shows about reaching peak agility and still losing badly in a market.
■ 𝗔𝗜 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗘𝘅𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗴𝗺: Why adding AI to your own business data may bring incremental gains without moving you into a new system.
■ 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗧𝗲𝘀𝘁𝘀: Self-improving loops, path dependence and management logic antagonism, applied to Adam's own CTO coaching journey.
■ 𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗠𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝗮 𝗚𝗮𝗺𝗯𝗶𝘁: Why a short runway, or a lack of real control over the system, makes it the wrong move.
Build your own CTO Playbook at www.theCTOplaybook.com, the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey. Coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact.
You'll Learn:
[0:00] Introduction
[3:07] Why Strategic Advantage Requires a Sacrifice
[5:34] Why a System Gambit Isn't a Gamble
[8:37] The System Gambit vs the System Anti-Gambit
[9:38] What Nokia Shows About Incremental Optimisation
[13:41] What Actually Qualifies as a Paradigm Shift
[23:12] Why AI Alone May Reinforce the Existing Paradigm
[26:25] How Amazon Built Structural Advantage
[29:37] Testing Adam's Own System Gambit
[33:05] Applying the Tests Live
[38:18] How Cross-Coupled Loops Create Compounding Advantage
[40:29] Why Path Dependence Makes a Strategy Hard to Copy
[46:42] When the System Anti-Gambit Is the Right Move
[50:45] When You Actually Need a System Gambit
[53:03] The Three Tests: Self-Improving Loops, Path Dependence and Management Logic Antagonism
[55:39] Where to Find Ritavan
Follow Ritavan:
■ Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GY8J23SK
■ Substack: https://systemgambit.substack.com
■ Website: https://ritavan.com
■ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rritavan/?isSelfProfile=false
■ YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@UCKf6F9wfQH56mCphHdbnCYg
The CTO Playbook:
■ Build your own CTO Playbook at https://www.thectoplaybook.com, the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey, coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact.
■ Follow Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamhorner/
■ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheCTOplaybook
■ Prefer listening? Catch the podcast: https://bit.ly/thectoplaybook - AI isn't just changing how engineers work. It's forcing technology leaders to rethink what makes management valuable.
Prof. Charles Wood is Senior Manager, Data Science & AI at Comcast, where he has spent nearly a decade leading enterprise AI strategy, and the author of Artificial Intelligence Management. Most of the AI and jobs conversation focuses on developers.
Charles looks at the layer above them. His argument is that the qualities that make a manager good, like consistency, fairness and a repeatable process, are exactly what a language model can reproduce. He explains why the more predictable management work becomes, the easier it is to automate. He also covers why implementing AI means nothing until you prove the impact, and why the managers who stay valuable will be the ones creating outcomes that can't be reduced to an average.
In this episode, he explains:
■ Why Middle Management Is Exposed: Why predictable, repeatable, standardized management work is easier to automate than engineering itself.
■ AI Is Arriving Top-Down: Why adoption is coming from the executive level, and why it has to start with business value.
■ Precision, Personalization and Scale: What AI makes possible, and where hallucinations, testing and human oversight still matter.
■ Stop Asking "Did We Implement AI?": Why every AI initiative needs measurable outcomes, and why the real question is "So what?"
■ Are You Average?: How managers can use AI to expand their scope, take on more complexity, and deliver results no model can replicate.
■ The New AI Playbook: Charles' principles for rebuilding your leadership playbook, starting with continuous learning and the willingness to nuke your old one.
Build your own CTO Playbook at www.theCTOplaybook.com, the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey. Coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact.
You'll Learn:
[0:00] Introduction
[5:10] Why AI Could Disrupt Middle Management More Than Engineering
[9:42] Why Predictable Management Work Is Easier to Automate
[14:18] What LLMs Can and Cannot Replace in Technical Teams
[19:06] Why AI Adoption Has to Start With Business Value
[24:15] Hyper Precision, Personalization and Scale
[29:37] Hallucinations, Testing and Human Oversight
[34:21] Why Every AI Initiative Needs Measurable Outcomes
[39:04] Using AI to Expand Your Scope and Stay Relevant
[44:12] Continuous Learning as a Leadership Requirement
[49:06] The Five Principles of the New AI Playbook
[54:18] From "Did We Implement AI?" to "So What?"
Follow Prof. Charles Wood:
■ Book: Artificial Intelligence Management
■ Convergent Lens: https://convergentlens.com
■ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/profwood/
The CTO Playbook:
■ Build your own CTO Playbook at https://www.thectoplaybook.com, the leadership platform built for the full CTO journey, coaching, podcast, and community to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and strategic impact.
■ Follow Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamhorner/
■ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheCTOplaybook
■ Prefer listening? Catch the podcast: https://bit.ly/thectoplaybook
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Join Adam Horner, a CTO with over 30 years in the tech industry, on The CTO Playbook — the podcast dedicated to helping CTOs excel. Perfect for CTOs and tech leaders navigating the complexities of their roles, each episode offers clear insights, innovative strategies, and practical advice from top leaders in tech.
With Adam’s extensive experience mentoring engineers and tech leaders, and over a decade as a CTO, you’ll gain the tools and knowledge to build and refine your own CTO playbook. Whether you're tackling complex projects, fostering innovation, leading teams, or shaping your company's tech strategy, this podcast is your go-to resource.
Adam’s journey from engineer to strategic CTO was challenging. He learned through the school of hard knocks, making avoidable mistakes and facing countless challenges. Often out of his comfort zone and wishing for more guidance, he created this podcast to provide the support and advice he once lacked.
Tune in for engaging interviews, leadership tips, and the latest in technology strategy. Each episode is designed to help you lead with confidence and level up as a CTO.
Listen now to start your journey with The CTO Playbook and build your own playbook to excel in your role.
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