In Shawn "swyx" Wang's third appearance on the podcast, we talk about his recent interview with Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan about AI in biomedical research, and the goal to understand and eventually eradicate all diseases. We also talk about how DevRel is unbelievable back, the challenges of uphill DevRel, the dynamics of the current AI investment bubble, and the new projects he is working on.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:  • Uphill DevRel article  • DevRel is unbelievably back article  • Particle/wave duality article  • The Economics of Superstars  • AI Engineer conference videos  • Swyx's Linkedin
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Growing Marimo's YouTube channel, with Vincent D. Warmerdam
Vincent D. Warmerdam from Marimo shares how they grew their YouTube channel for their Python notebook, using regular Shorts to reach thousands of new viewers each week. He talks about the importance of being genuinely excited about what you’re building and how consistent, authentic content can help both founders and creators connect with their audience. He gives practical advice and real-world insights for anyone interested in DevRel or growing a DevTool channel.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs.Links:  • Vincent's blog  • Vincent's X  • Marimo
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How RevenueCat tore up the sales playbook, with Rik Haandrikman
Rik Haandrikman talks about sales incentives and growth at RevenueCat, and their creative approach to conferences. He explains why their sales team focuses on helping customers evaluate the product in their own way, how aligning incentives shapes company culture and how they make the most out of rare, compelling events.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:  • RevenueCat jobs  • Rik's article  •  Rik's X  • RevenueCat's X
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Baseten CEO and co-founder Tuhin Srivastava on inference and feedback loops
The episode features Baseten CEO and cofounder Tuhin, who shares Baseten’s journey from a small team in the pre-GenAI era to scaling rapidly and raising $150M in Series D funding. The discussion delves into building robust inference infrastructure for AI applications, navigating market shifts, and developing tools that prioritize speed, developer experience, and customer feedback loops.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs.Links:  • Baseten  • Tuhin's Linkedin
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When sales and product led growth meet, with Railway's Angelo Saraceno
In this episode, Angelo Saraceno from Railway shares his experience balancing the technical challenges of building a developer-focused product with the realities of enterprise sales. They discuss how understanding customer needs beyond just features is crucial to growing a startup sustainably. Whether you're a founder or developer, this conversation offers valuable insights into turning good products into successful businesses without losing sight of the bigger picture.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:  • Railway  • Railway's blog  • John McMahon's book  • Angelo's Slack automation article  • Angelo's website  • Angelo's Linkedin
We investigate what it takes to grow developer tools and AI DevTools. Topics include developer marketing, DevRel, developer advocacy and developer experience. Featuring founders and key people from the likes of Vercel, ElevenLabs and OpenAI. Scaling DevTools is sponsored by WorkOS.
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