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    Ronald J. Pestritto on Government by the Unelected

    2026/1/20 | 1h 12 mins.
    Jace Lington and Bennett Nuss chat with Hillsdale College Professor Ronald J. Pestritto about his recent article tracing the rise of the administrative state and the revolution it wrought in the federal government. Pestritto explores the evolution of the administrative state, tracing its roots back to the Progressive Era and the shift from a government based on consent to one grounded in expertise. He argues that this transformation has led to a significant disconnect between elected officials and the bureaucratic agencies that wield substantial power without direct accountability to the electorate. The conversation delves into the implications of this shift, particularly in the context of the Trump administration's attempts to rein in the administrative state and the ongoing debates surrounding judicial oversight and legislative responsibility.

    Notes:
    Government By the Unelected: How It Happened, and How It Might Be Tamed, Ronald J. Pestritto 
    The Original Progressives Are No Guide for Today's Conservatives, Ronald J. Pestritto
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    Jeffrey Pojanowski on the "Faces of Formalism"

    2026/1/07 | 46 mins.
    Jace Lington and Bennett Nuss chat with Notre Dame Law Professor Jeffery Pojanowski about his forthcoming paper, “Faces of Formalism.” The paper explores the complexities of formalism in legal interpretation, discussing its two faces: authority and method. They delve into concrete examples, such as Gorsuch's application of textualism in the Bostock case, and examine the tensions that arise between these two aspects. Pojanowski offers some ideas about how to look for authoritative answers while respecting rules meant to limit judicial discretion.

    Notes:
    Faces of Formalism, Jefferey Pojanowski
    Neoclassical Administrative Law, Jeffrey Pojanowski
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    The Gray Center's 2025 Year in Review

    2025/12/18 | 1h 11 mins.
    Adam White, Jace Lington, and Bennett Nuss reflect on the significant regulatory developments of 2025, focusing on under-reported stories in the administrative state. They discuss the future of the Federal Reserve, the evolving relationships between public and private entities, the impact of repealing disparate impact laws, and the diminishing role of Congress.

    Notes:
    Trump Regulatory Policy: 2025 Compendium, Bridget C.E. Dooling, Notice & Comment Blog
    The Brave New World of Administrative Law, Adam White and Bennett Nuss, 2024 A Hard Look Podcast
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    Eli Nachmany on the Stare Decisis Effects of Loper Bright 1

    2025/11/27 | 58 mins.
    Jace Lington and Bennett Nuss discuss the implications of the Loper Bright decision on administrative law with guest Eli Nachmany. Eli’s forthcoming paper, “Deference Undisturbed,” examines the effects of theLoper Bright decision on prior cases decided under the Chevron framework. They discuss the open legal questions that remain after the end of Chevron, the role of Congress in shaping administrative law, and the future of various deference doctrines.  

    Notes:
    Vacatur as Complete Relief, Eli Nachmany, Cato Supreme Court Review 

    Chevron Deference Was Fun While It Lasted, Eugene Scalia, Wall Street Journal
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    Eli Nachmany on the Stare Decisis Effects of Loper Bright

    2025/11/27 | 21 mins.
    Jace Lington and Bennett Nuss discuss the implications of the Loper Bright decision on administrative law with guest Eli Nachmany. Eli’s forthcoming paper, “Deference Undisturbed,” examines the effects of theLoper Bright decision on prior cases decided under the Chevron framework. They discuss the open legal questions that remain after the end of Chevron, the role of Congress in shaping administrative law, and the future of various deference doctrines.  
    Notes:
    Vacatur as Complete Relief, Eli Nachmany, Cato Supreme Court Review 
    Chevron Deference Was Fun While It Lasted, Eugene Scalia, Wall Street Journal

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About Gray Matters

The C. Boyden Gray Center for the Administrative State, at George Mason University’s Antonin Scalia Law School, supports research and debate on the modern administrative state, and the constitutional issues surrounding it. In this podcast, we’ll discuss some of the questions being debated around modern administration — some new questions, some timeless ones. And you can also get the audio from Gray Center events.Listen to all episodes of Gray Matters at Ricochet.com.
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