The Deep End With Lecrae

What happens when a pastor refuses to separate the gospel from justice? Lecrae sits down with pastor, theologian, and author Charlie Dates for a candid conversation about the Black church, American Christianity, and the cost of speaking up.
Charlie opens up about why he had to tell his congregation he was wrong about a church partnership, how he handles the pressure of money in ministry, and why he believes justice and righteousness belong together. He and Lecrae also talk about the legacy of the Black church, Martin Luther King Jr. and Billy Graham, and the question of whether America is a Christian nation.
They get into faith and Black Greek life, hope for people hurt by the church, fatherhood, and what marriage has taught Charlie about dying to himself.
Let's go to the Deep End!
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In this episode of The Deep End, Lecrae sits down with Egypt Sherrod and Mike Jackson for an honest conversation about love, marriage, and what it takes to build a lasting relationship.
The couple shares how they met, why financial success doesn't determine someone's value, and the importance of honesty when dating. They also open up about the challenges they've faced in their marriage, including pride, resentment, and learning how to communicate through difficult seasons.
Together, they discuss how faith, trust, and personal growth have helped them redefine what it means to love and support one another while building a life together.
0:00 Introduction
03:14 The Power of Your Words
05:07 How Egypt and Mike Met
08:59 Choosing Character Over Financial Success
13:04 Honesty on the First Date
17:47 Should You Date Someone's Potential?
19:39 The Problem with Social Media Relationship Advice
22:12 How Pride Almost Destroyed Their Marriage
26:50 Learning to Love and Respect Each Other
29:03 Communication and Understanding Your Partner
32:43 How Past Hurt Affects Relationships
34:47 Rebuilding Trust Through Consistency
39:06 Finding Peace and Healing Through Faith
42:09 Redefining Success and Finding Joy
46:05 The Reality Behind a Picture-Perfect Marriage
51:22 How Faith Changed Mike's Life
55:12 Fatherhood and Breaking Generational Patterns
59:00 Raising Daughters and Navigating Dating
1:09:11 Learning to Parent with Understanding
1:15:16 Building a Life Abroad
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Is manifestation harmless motivation, or is there more happening beneath the surface?
Former hypnotist Anthony Sereno built an audience of over a million people teaching hypnosis, manifestation, and subconscious reprogramming. But behind the success, he began encountering things he couldn't explain. In this episode of The Deep End, Anthony joins Lecrae to share what led him to walk away from his former practice and take his faith in Jesus seriously.
They unpack manifestation, vision boards, the pursuit of money and fame, and how New Age ideas have made their way into Christian spaces. Anthony shares his perspective on spiritual warfare and deliverance, while Lecrae opens up about his own experience visiting a hypnotist during a season of struggling with his faith and mental health.
It's an honest conversation about discernment, desperation, and what happens when surrendering to God costs you the life you built.

In this episode of The Deep End, Lecrae sits down with Grammy Award-winning gospel artist Tye Tribbett for a candid conversation about faith, fame, and the realities of the gospel music industry.
Tye reflects on his unconventional musical journey, from playing alongside mainstream artists to building a career in gospel music. He also shares the personal failures that changed his understanding of grace, why awards and recognition no longer hold the same weight, and the importance of developing character before pursuing a platform.
Together, Lecrae and Tye discuss the divide between Christian hip-hop and gospel music, the pressure to remain relevant, and the difference between using your gifts for God and building your identity around them.
Ultimately, this conversation challenges artists and believers alike to examine what drives their ambition and whether their pursuit of success is drawing them closer to God.
 
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Does your ancestry determine whether you're one of God's chosen people?
Lecrae sits down with Hebrew Israelite artist Zaydok and pastor and author Jerome Gay for an honest conversation about race, faith, and identity. What do Hebrew Israelites actually believe? Why do different groups disagree? And where do those beliefs align with, or depart from, Christianity?
Together, they examine the controversial 12 Tribes chart, the whitewashing of Christianity, scriptures used to justify slavery, and the difference between honoring your heritage and making it the foundation of your faith. Zaydok also challenges beliefs within his own movement, including claims that salvation is limited by race.
It's a conversation about belonging, what we believe about Jesus, and how to talk through real disagreements without losing sight of one another's humanity.
Where do you draw the line between celebrating your identity and making it an idol? Let us know in the comments.
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