The Deep End With Lecrae

Avery Austin Jr. — known online as GodLogic — has 500K+ subscribers and streams apologetics debates live three times a week. He grew up as a preacher's kid in Lancaster, California. Got ordained at 20. Got stumped by a Jehovah's Witness at a community college. And decided the whole church needed to get equipped.
In this episode of The Deep End, Lecrae plays TikTok devil's advocate — throwing Islam's best arguments, Hebrew Israelite talking points, and the problem of evil at GodLogic live. He answers every single one.
They also go deep on: what happens to the souls you never hear from again, the gap between intellectual certainty and real faith, and what GodLogic prays for after every stream.
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John Bevere spent 40 years avoiding the end times. He thought it made people lazy, argumentative, and passive. Then God told him to study it — and after 1,000+ hours in Scripture, everything changed.
In this episode of The Deep End with Lecrae, John unpacks what he found: the Second Coming isn't an event to fear. It's a wedding to prepare for. And there's a mathematical case — built entirely from Scripture — that it's closer than most people realize. John breaks down why Jesus rebuked Jerusalem for missing the signs of His first coming, how the Dead Sea Scrolls upend everything you thought you knew about the Rapture, and the one Greek word that transforms anxiety about the end times into something far more powerful: eager expectation. 
This isn't prophecy sensationalism. It's 40 years of wisdom finally unlocked — and it will change how you live today.

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_*]:min-w-0 gap-3"> DeVon Franklin is a Hollywood producer, preacher, and New York Times bestselling author. His credits include Miracles from Heaven, Breakthrough, Flamin' Hot, and The Pursuit of Happyness. He is the founder of DeVon Franklin Entertainment. His latest film, Ruth and Boaz, is streaming on Netflix now.
In this episode: DeVon's origin in East Oakland, how his father's death at nine years old became the fuel, what he told his congregation at 16, the Paramount deal collapse, the season with no deal after Flamin' Hot, burning the DeVon Franklin Universe pie chart, the Relationship Goals controversy and why he stands behind it, how life imitated art during Ruth and Boaz, the achievement addiction he finally broke, and an exclusive announcement on his next biblical film.

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Former Muslim, attorney, and apologist Abdu Murray spent nine years studying Islam, Christianity, philosophy, and history. By year two, he had enough evidence to convert. It took seven more years to act on it.
In this conversation, Abdu and Lecrae go deep on why the cross does not insult God's greatness. It proves it. They explore how identity in Middle Eastern culture can make leaving Islam feel impossible, which Quran passages pointed Abdu toward the Bible, and what his nine-year search looked like from the inside.
They also discuss the identity crisis AI is quietly accelerating, why cancel culture is really assassination culture with better branding, why many people are missing the point in the gender conversation, and what it means to answer a person instead of a question.
Abdu also shares, for the first time in this conversation, that his father was murdered in October 2024. What Abdu says about that moment, and how it reshaped the way Abdu sees the problem of evil, is worth the whole episode.
Topics covered: Islam and Christianity, the problem of evil, apologetics, identity and the imago Dei, AI and human worth, gender ideology, just war theory, deconstruction, and what it costs to tell the truth when your whole family is watching.
Abdu Murray is the founder of Embrace the Truth Ministry, author of Fake ID, and host of multiple podcasts reaching millions globally.
Find Abdu at embracethetruth.org | @AbduMurray12 on Instagram
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Lecrae sits down with Michael Miller — co-host of Remnant Radio, church planter, and one of the most scripturally grounded voices in the deliverance space — to talk about what the Bible actually says about demons, healing, spiritual authority, and why the charismatic church keeps producing charlatans. No easy answers. No hype. Just a long, honest look at the stuff most pastors won't touch.
They get into: Michael's journey from a broken home with a Jewish mother and Mormon father to being discipled by Jack Deere. Why the cessationist argument doesn't hold up scripturally. What "demonization" actually means in Greek — and why "possession" is the wrong word. Whether Christians can have demons (spoiler: the early church didn't debate it). The Scottish border clan curse from 1525 that's still showing up in prayer sessions. How to tell a false prophet from a real one. Why prophecy is supposed to be local — and why the YouTube prophets keep getting it wrong. And Lecrae shares his own story: the name he kept praying over for weeks, the girl who couldn't walk, and what happened when he finally said it out loud.
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0:00 The First Demon He Ever Encountered
1:07 Introducing Michael Miller
4:42 A Jewish Mother, a Mormon Father, and a Hidden Bible
7:00 Why He Couldn't Handle the Pentecostal Packaging
8:25 Praying to Be Discipled by Jack Deere (And It Worked)
9:17 [Ad: Talkiatry]
11:30 Lecrae's Background: The Spooky Stuff Was Off Limits
13:56 Why Lecrae Started Digging Into the Supernatural
15:26 How Michael Got Grounded in Scripture on Spiritual Things
18:18 John Wimber Prayed for the Sick for Three Years With Nothing
20:03 The First Time Michael Actually Saw Something
23:10 The Night Before: He Was Frustrated With God
25:17 Who Believes in This and Who Doesn't
27:45 So When It Comes to Demons...
28:32 The Full Story: The Demon in South Africa
33:25 Why Did It Listen to You and Not Her?
38:07 Christian Authority Over Demons: It's Position, Not Gift
40:46 Can Christians Have Demons?
44:29 The Greek Word "Demonize" and Why It Changes Everything
46:56 What Tertullian Said (The Guy Who Invented the Word "Trinity")
49:25 The Scottish Border Clan Curse From 1525
54:09 What Makes a Curse Effective?
59:16 Why Michael Miller Is Not Afraid of Demons
1:01:48 The Woman in Austria: Endometriosis and What Happened Next
1:03:08 What Even Is a Demon? Nephilim, Fallen Angels, and Where Things Get Weird
1:07:44 Lecrae Breaks Down His Charismatic Journey
1:09:13 How Do You Tell a False Prophet From a Real One?
1:11:22 The YouTube Prophets Are Getting It Wrong
1:16:13 Can the Charismatic Church Self-Correct?
1:18:38 What Do You Do If You Know the Gifts Are Real But Keep Seeing Abuse?
1:20:39 Make Prophecy Local Again: The Story of Sally
1:23:36 Lecrae's Own Story: The Name He Kept Hearing
1:28:32 Specific Prayers, Legal Rights, and When You Have to Name the Thing
1:33:24 The Woman in Denmark Who Was Living in Sin (And Didn't Know It)
1:37:18 Can Regular Friends Pray for Your Deliverance?
1:38:27 Where to Find Michael Miller