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  • Sir Andrew Strauss: How to Win the Ashes in Australia (Ep.98)
    Sir Andrew Strauss is the last England Captain to win the Ashes in Australia. So what better time to get him in the hotseat. Aside from the timing being perfect, this is a show I have wanted to do from day one. That is not just because he is one of England’s greatest captains and batsmen, but he has also played an integral role in shaping the success of English cricket across formats in recent years. He transformed white ball cricket as Director of Professional Cricket at the ECB, culminating in that most incredible World Cup win in 2019. In doing so, you could say he laid the foundations for the style of test cricket the team is now playing today. We recorded this before the disaster (if you’re an England fan) that occurred in Perth, but that makes some of the frighteningly accurate observations made in this conversation more impressive. It is of course a reveal of how to win in Australia, but it is much more than that. From dealing with maverick talent to how to sort out domestic cricket, we’re delighted to welcome Andrew Strauss to the Business of Sport.Timestamps:00:00 Intro03:40 Ashes Predictions07:29 Parallels Between the 2010/11 Win and Today’s Team14:46 The Most Nervous Game17:29 Is Modern Sports Stardom Any Different Today?24:13 Breaking Down Central Contracts & Player Income27:08 Players Get More Exposure Than Ever31:12 Balancing Individual Brilliance with Team Structure34:18 How Bat Sponsorship Deals Actually Work41:33 Resetting English Cricket45:56 How Franchise Cricket Is Reshaping Test Player Pathways49:32 Is County Cricket Financially Sustainable?53:18 Why Distribution Isn’t Enough58:20 If You Had to Choose One Sports Asset to Buy01:00:41 How Athletes Transition Into Business Roles01:03:28 How Captains Balance Leadership and Individual Output01:08:00 The Ruth Strauss Foundation01:10:16 Quick-Fire RoundOn today’s show we discuss: Ashes Predictions and How To Win Down Under:The brutal realities of touring Australia. Bounce, conditions, the Kookaburra ball, and the psychological toll of playing in a “goldfish bowl.”Why England have won just one Test in Australia in 14 attempts, and why preparation is everything.The inside story of the 2010/11 Ashes triumph and what that team got right.The psychological battle of opening the batting, staying calm when the ball is flying past your ears, and facing the greatest to ever do it. Including Strauss’s unforgettable encounters with Shane Warne.Running Elite Cricket & Winning a World Cup:What Strauss changed after England’s 2015 World Cup disaster and how it led directly to the 2019 World Cup win.Why he pushed for white-ball specialists, a fearless scoring philosophy, and a total cultural reset.Inside the tensions between formats, franchise cricket, and player availability and the challenges of managing England cricket like a true performance organisation.The Hundred, County Cricket & the Future of the Game:The truth about county cricket’s finances. £40k average salaries, 450 professionals, and no sustainability.Why Strauss believes English cricket needs fewer teams, fewer matches, and an elite first division to compete globally.The insane valuations in The Hundred, why investors bought anyway, and how private capital will reshape cricket whether counties like it or not.What Test cricket will look like in 20 years.A huge thank you to our amazing partners on the show: StrydeBringing sports investment opportunities to your door. Visit http://www.gostryde.com to become part of the movement!
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  • Emily Frazer: From The Joke of Matchroom To The Next Big Thing; The Rise of Multi-Sport (Ep.97)
    Emily Frazer is the CEO of Matchroom Multi Sport. She's led the charge in transforming sports like 9-ball pool into fast-growing, commercially compelling global properties, building new formats, elevating athlete storytelling, and bringing fresh audiences into what we could call a challenger landscape. The Multi-Sport story was told to perfection in the recent Matchroom Netflix series, shining a light on the lesser known side of the organisation at the centre of the boxing world and driving the boom we’ve seen in the darts. The question for Emily is simple: can the success in these other sports be replicated in the multi-sport model?Ahead of the Mosconi Cup next week at Ally Pally (pool’s answer to the Ryder Cup), Emily delivers a compelling reveal on life behind the Matchroom curtain and what it’s going to take to deliver an emerging sport on a global stage. Timestamps:00:00 Intro05:01 What is Multi Sport?16:31 How Early Opportunities Accelerate Learning20:53 How Did Matchroom Become the “Owner” of the Sport?26:35 What’s the Master Plan to Make Nine-Ball a Global Sport?31:46 Is Narrative More Important Than Quality Now?34:14 The Upcoming Mosconi Cup36:33 Do Athlete Brands Matter More Than Teams Now?40:47 Is It Truly a Viable Job for Players?44:11 Where Matchroom’s Core Revenue in Pool Comes From49:42 Should Matchroom Create a Unified Fan Loyalty Program?54:41 Pressure to Match Darts’ Success59:59 Why Pool Is More Accessible Than Snooker01:03:09 Quick-Fire RoundOn today’s show we discuss: From ‘Special Events’ to a Global Multisport Division:How a once-overlooked corner of Matchroom evolved from “the joke department” into one of the company’s fastest-growing verticals.The commercial blueprint Matchroom is applying, from multi-table events to digital-first broadcasting, social virality and new formats.The weight of carrying a whole sport on your shoulders, and why Emily believes that “80% crazy” is an essential part of the job.The belief that with the right innovation, risk, and relentlessness, Pool will become a global powerhouse.Athletes, Pressure & Player Pathways:The human realities of managing athletes in a developing sport. Expectation, frustration, and the emotional weight of leading a tour they rely on to feed their families.Why Pool is one of the rare sports where amateurs can face legends, and how that creates powerful fan moments that drive new fandom.How the rise of local ranking events has unlocked hidden talent in Vietnam, the Philippines, the U.S. and beyond.Commercial Strategy, Media & Monetisation:The economics of Pool today: ticketing, sponsorship, WNT TV, and the importance of viewership for long-term sustainability.Why Pool cannot rely on tradition or federation structures, and must innovate faster and more aggressively than snooker or darts ever did.The long-term vision: a profitable global tour, star-driven marketing, and a world where Pool sits alongside darts and snooker in Matchroom’s “big three.”A huge thank you to our amazing partners on the show: DavidGo and check out the amazing products revolutionising the protein bar at https://davidprotein.comStrydeBringing sports investment opportunities to your door. Visit http://www.gostryde.com to become part of the movement!Mosconi Cup Ticketshttps://www.alexandrapalace.com/whats-on/mosconi-cup/
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  • ASHES SPECIAL | Barmy Army Head Down Under: Behind the Scenes with Sport’s Greatest Community | Chris Millard (Ep94)
    IT’S ASHES WEEK. One of the biggest occasions of the sporting year is here, and with it we have a special show unlike any other we’ve done before. The Barmy Army is so influential it has made it into the Oxford Dictionary: to quote…it is a term for a group of passionate, noisy, and dedicated fans who support the English national cricket team, especially during overseas tours. For over 30 years, they’ve built incredible atmospheres by leveraging trumpets, original songs and bucket hats so fashionable they’re found all over Glastonbury. But did you know behind this infamous group sits a hugely successful business, with a responsibility to bring the best experiences to the thousands of touring fans under their banner. Chris Millard is the man in charge of the Barmy Army, and in a 6 week period that will no doubt have them front and centre of sports news as 40,000 England fans descend on Australia, we thought it was the perfect time to take a look at the organisation that defines fandom and community. This is a side of the Barmy Army you will not have seen before.It’s time to build the hype for as we enter the ultimate cricketing Christmas. We’re delighted to welcome Chris to the Business of SportTimestamps:00:00 Intro03:22 What the Barmy Army Has Planned for the Ashes09:20 What the Barmy Army Is Today12:15 The Revenue Streams14:41 How Bazball Has Boosted Test Cricket Demand16:39 How Touring Groups Collaborate in Cricket23:39 Did Commercial Growth Threaten the Barmy Army’s Values?27:07 How Barmy Army Merch & Licensing Works31:14 How Fan Culture Can Help Strengthen County Cricket34:20 Why Test Cricket Survives Only in a Few Nations37:52 How Packed Calendars Impact Player Welfare43:08 How Iconic Grounds Were Left Off the Ashes List46:03 Predicting the Ashes Outcome51:43 The Long-Term Vision for the Barmy Army BusinessOn today’s show we discuss: The Business Behind the Barmy Army:How a grassroots fan group founded in 1994 has grown into a multimillion-pound sports business.Why the Barmy Army now operates with full-time staff, global partnerships, and a sophisticated travel, merchandise, and events model.The operational challenge of managing over 3,500 official tourists, and more than 40,000 fans, on a single Ashes tour.How it evolved from a group of England fans into a global movement with over two million social followers.Partnerships & Governance in Cricket:Inside the economics of a modern fan brand. From travel packages to apparel, partnerships, and social media monetisation.How collaborations with TNT Sports, retro kit lines, and bespoke tour collections have turned the Barmy Army into a fashion and lifestyle label as much as a supporters’ group.The Barmy Army’s evolving relationship with the ECB, from being seen as a rival to becoming an ally and trusted partner.How the group now collaborates with governing bodies across the world to influence tour schedules, ticketing, and fan logistics.Test Cricket, Tourism & the Global Game:Why the Barmy Army believes Test cricket is still the sport’s heartbeat and how their tours generate up to $750 million in host-country impact.The critical link between tourism, culture, and cricket’s survival, from Barbados to the Ashes.The fight to preserve the long-form game amid scheduling chaos and private league dominance.The obstacles of perception, access, and tradition when expanding into new territories.Why the future of fandom will be driven by authenticity, emotion, and the fans who live the game, not the corporations who sell it.
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  • Dan Biggar: The Fight For the Future of Rugby, Wales’s Golden Generation, & The Power of Henry Pollock (Ep.95)
    Rugby is facing a massive few years. A battle to demonstrate financial sustainability, the need for players to build brands that can compete with sport’s biggest stars, a threat to established systems from challenger leagues; it’s sink or swim time, if that’s not being too dramatic.Dan Biggar is one of the game’s great fly-halves (though he’d never admit it himself): over 100 caps for Wales including 3 World Cups and a 6 Nations Grand Slam, and a 2-time British & Irish Lion. While it pains me to recognise much of this success with any genuine words of congratulations, what we are seeing from him now in his work behind the scenes in the media and wider business world is much easier to support. It’s a great example of the real value an athlete can bring beyond the field. As you’ve just heard, a quite brilliant segment of this chat is Dan opening up on life after retirement and how to adjust as an athlete to a new reality. Yes this is about the state of Welsh rugby, but it’s also a look at the broader game and what needs to happen to ensure rugby can compete for the attention of fans increasingly being pulled in different directions by new and shiny entertainment offerings.Timestamps:00:00 Intro05:49 The Current State of Welsh Rugby10:13 Why Wales’ Rugby Results Have Declined12:17 Inside the WRU’s Unique Funding Model17:26 What Steve Tandy Brings to Wales20:14 Why Gatland Worked Then30:26 Inside the 2015 Rugby World Cup ‘Group of Death’34:31 Life After a Defining World Cup Moment46:37How Dan Biggar Views the PREM Rugby Today50:53 How Competitive Are Welsh Teams Right Now?54:54 Moving Into a New Environment After Rugby01:00:52 How Personal Brands Shape Today’s Athletes01:03:37 The Scheduling Problem Facing Club & Country01:07:37 After Rugby & Media: What Comes Next?On today’s show we discuss: The State of Welsh Rugby:Why Welsh rugby finds itself at a crossroads. From funding issues to failed reform and player development.The controversial “One Wales” plan, the fallout from the WRU’s regional restructuring proposals, and why leadership and clarity remain missing.Inside the WRU’s unique funding model.Why this structure has created dependency, stagnation, and political tension between clubs and the national setup.Why new head coach Steve Tandy represents a complete cultural reset for the national team.The Biggar Years & Playing at the Top:What went right during Wales’s recent golden generation and what went wrong since.The evolution from Warren Gatland’s hard-edged discipline to Tandy’s empathetic, relationship-driven leadership.The psychological toll of success and expectation, and what it really takes to stay at the top for nearly two decades.How contract negotiations, club moves, and personal ambition shaped his career.The Future of Rugby & Athlete Branding:Why players like Henry Pollock are the future of rugby, as entertainers and cultural icons as much as athletes.The value of player branding in driving ticket sales, sponsorship, and engagement in a sport fighting for relevance.Why rugby must embrace individuality, storytelling, and innovation to compete with football, Formula One, and the NFL.A huge thank you to our amazing partners on the show: StrydeBringing sports investment opportunities to your door. Visit http://www.gostryde.com to become part of the movement!SBS: Follow in Dan’s footsteps & join the community powering connectivity in sport https://www.sportsbusinesssyndicate.com/
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  • Tim Bezbatchenko: How Bournemouth Became A Destination For The Best Young Talent (Ep94)
    Multi-club ownership groups have had a tough year in the eyes of many, with high profile cases around Crystal Palace & Lyon as well as Forest & Olympiacos showing the competitive risk of one owner or group having too much control over multiple entities. But, and it is a big but, this model can be a hugely valuable business and performance structure to apply to football.Tim Bezbatchenko is the President of Black Knight Football, the group who owns or has minority ownership in multiple clubs including Bournemouth, Hibernian, and Lorient in France to name a few. It’s an amazing time to be having this chat with Tim due the success Bournemouth are achieving this season, miraculously after another summer of selling some of their best players. This is an insight into how they have built a player trading model to offset the financial challenges of having an 11,000 seater stadium, the plans to develop infrastructure, the value of shared intelligence and analytics across multiple clubs, and most importantly how you protect the badge of each team so they do not just become feeders to the premium asset in the group.This is a proper look at the MCO model from someone who firmly believes that collective value can breed the best business in football. We’re delighted to welcome Tim to the Business of Sport.Timestamps:00:00 Intro04:26 What Black Knight is really about12:07 The business edge of owning multiple clubs17:02 Inside Bournemouth's rise under Andoni Iraola25:45 Bill Foley's mantra: "Always Advance, Never Retreat"31:24 How Bournemouth sells stars yet keeps getting better44:52 Building a sustainable club: revenue, academy & player trading01:01:14 Why Bill Foley chose Bournemouth over an MLS teamOn today’s show we discuss: The Rise of Black Knight Football Group:What it takes to build a multi-club ownership group across five countries and why Bill Foley’s “Always Advance, Never Retreat” mantra is shaping everything from the Premier League to Portugal.How AFC Bournemouth became the flagship club for a growing global network that includes Hibernian, Lorient, and Moreirense.Why multi-club ownership is football’s next frontier and how to build it sustainablyInside the Business Model:The economics behind owning multiple clubs from shared scouting, player development, and data systems to group-wide sponsorship deals.Why player trading drives profitability, and how clubs like Lorient and Moreirense fuel Bournemouth’s long-term success.The art of finding value: buying clubs with strong DNA and fan culture, not just financial upsideHow Black Knight is using its network to develop talent like Junior Kroupi and accelerate their pathway to the Premier League.Why football’s next phase will be defined by structure, not just spending.Building a Sustainable Premier League Club:Inside Bournemouth’s transformation from League Two survival story to Premier League mainstay.How a £45m training ground and planned stadium expansion are reshaping the club’s future.The economics of player trading, matchday revenue, and sponsorships and what it really costs to compete with England’s eliteA huge thank you to our amazing partners on the show: David:Go and check out the amazing products revolutionising the protein bar at https://davidprotein.comStryde:Bringing sports investment opportunities to your door. Visit ⁠http://www.gostryde.com⁠ to become part of the movement!
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