In this episode of the Alcohol Minimalist Podcast, Molly sits down with Dr. Charles Knowles, professor of surgery at Queen Mary University of London and author of Why We Drink Too Much.
This is a deep, science-forward conversation about why humans drink alcohol, why some people lose control while others don’t, and how culture, biology, psychology, and learning all intersect in our relationship with alcohol.
Dr. Knowles shares his personal journey through alcohol dependence, recovery, and ultimately peace—alongside the neuroscience, history, and behavioral science that explain why alcohol can quietly shift from pleasure to reliance.
If you’ve ever wondered “Why me?”, questioned your own drinking without fitting neatly into a label, or felt stuck in the gray area between “fine” and “not fine,” this conversation offers clarity, compassion, and perspective.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode
Why problematic drinking is not a moral failure or lack of willpower
The difference between reward drinking and relief drinking—and why that shift matters
Why consumption alone is a poor measure of alcohol’s impact
The Three C’s of Drinking: Consumption, Consequences, and Control
What “alcohol reliance” means—and why so many people live in this gray area
Why sobriety, abstinence, and neutrality are not the same thing
How emotional sobriety and peace are built after (or alongside) behavior change
Why understanding the brain can help some people change—and why action still matters
The role of culture, normalization, and storytelling in how we relate to alcohol
Why a period of alcohol-free time can be valuable, regardless of long-term goals
Key Concepts Discussed
Alcohol as a learned behavior, not a character flaw
Psychological dependence vs. physical dependence
Cognitive dissonance in gray-area drinking
Neuroplasticity and habit reinforcement
Emotional sobriety as a state of mind, not a rule set
Identity, agency, and discovering who you are without alcohol driving the story
Notable Quote
“Peace is an incredibly important thing—and it’s not until you find it that you realize you never had it.”
About the Guest
Dr. Charles Knowles is a professor of surgery at Queen Mary University of London, a consultant colorectal surgeon, and the author of over 300 peer-reviewed scientific publications. Why We Drink Too Much is his first popular science book, combining rigorous research with lived experience to challenge how we think about alcohol, addiction, and recovery.
Recommended Resource
Why We Drink Too Much: The Impact of Alcohol on Our Bodies and Culture by Dr. Charles Knowles
Final Takeaway
Changing your relationship with alcohol isn’t about labels, perfection, or deprivation. It’s about understanding what’s driving your behavior, questioning old narratives, and creating enough space to build peace—mentally, emotionally, and physically.
This episode is an invitation to look at alcohol with curiosity instead of judgment—and to remember that meaningful change is always possible.
Low risk drinking guidelines from the NIAAA:
Healthy men under 65:
No more than 4 drinks in one day and no more than 14 drinks per week.
Healthy women (all ages) and healthy men 65 and older:
No more than 3 drinks in one day and no more than 7 drinks per week.
One drink is defined as 12 ounces of beer, 5 ounces of wine, or 1.5 ounces of 80-proof liquor. So remember that a mixed drink or full glass of wine are probably more than one drink.
Abstinence from alcohol
Abstinence from alcohol is the best choice for people who take medication(s) that interact with alcohol, have health conditions that could be exacerbated by alcohol (e.g. liver disease), are pregnant or may become pregnant or have had a problem with alcohol or another substance in the past.
Benefits of “low-risk” drinking
Following these guidelines reduces the risk of health problems such as cancer, liver disease, reduced immunity, ulcers, sleep problems, complications of existing conditions, and more. It also reduces the risk of depression, social problems, and difficulties at school or work.
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