Back Row with Amy Odell

Third-quarter earnings are in, and luxury's slump isn't letting up. Kering and LVMH were down, Hermès grew but missed expectations, and Chanel seems like just about the only house that's winning. Amy brings back StyleZeitgeist founder Eugene Rabkin, author of Torn: Fashion and Postmodernism, to ask what's driving the downturn and whether designers can save it.The rest of the conversation, on the Paris protests, Chanelmania, whether the Birkin is over, and Anna Wintour chasing tech money, is for Back Row Premium subscribers. Sign up at backrow.net/subscribe to get newsletter access included with your subscription.CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
02:45 The Great Reset, one year in
07:30 Is McQueen headed for the mall?
09:45 Gucci's wholesale crutch
13:45 LVMH misses & Arnault slips
16:15 Is Dior really "gaining traction"?
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Jill Demling started as Anna Wintour's assistant in 1998, around the same time as Lauren Weisberger, who went on to write The Devil Wears Prada. Anna promoted Jill to entertainment editor, and she spent the next 18 and a half years deciding who got the cover of Vogue. She reveals which cover Anna wouldn't let her forget, how Beyoncé got her first Vogue cover, and why Angelina Jolie raided Gwyneth Paltrow's rack.Jill now hosts the Going Rogue podcast. Check it out on Apple:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/going-rogue/id1814440700YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@UCifqLV2sQB7b9WufQimRyqw And Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/7CIDU8Gib1FRvscacNw4SRCHAPTERS00:00 Introduction02:30 Anna's "next September" test08:00 Egg sandwiches, voicemails & Burger Heaven milkshakes12:45 Lauren Weisberger & the real Emily18:30 What The Devil Wears Prada gets wrong22:30 Why celebrities replaced models on covers33:30 How Beyoncé landed her first Vogue cover41:00 Photo approval & Beyoncé's no-interview cover
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Amy recently joined The Sam Sanders Show to talk about the rise of AI slop in fashion. Thank you to Sam and his team for allowing Back Row to republish the interview here!
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Even the fashion industry can’t escape AI slop.
Fast fashion brands are using AI to pump out new looks and trends, and speed up production at unsustainable rates. It’s a business model that relies much more on algorithmic data than human design. Chances are you’ve even seen plenty of these products in your social media feeds.
Sam chats with fashion journalist Amy Odell, host of the ‘Back Row’ podcast, about AI’s influence in the industry and how we can all be better consumers. Plus, is high fashion on life support? Amy also breaks down the perils of luxury shopping today.
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Jonathan Van Meter spent five years inside Kim Kardashian's world for his new biography, Citizen Kim: The Woman Who Created the Future. He talks about what her rarefied world of fame and wealth is really like, her childhood front-row seat to the O.J. Simpson trial, and how Kanye West got her into the Met Gala. Plus: what Jonathan could and couldn't learn about how the sex tape was released, and whether Kim is laying the groundwork to run for political office.

CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
02:00 How Jonathan Got Five Years of Access
05:30 Inside Kim Kardashian's House (and Her 24 Staffers)
12:00 Kim Air: Kim's Private Jet
30:30 Kim and the O.J. Simpson Trial
40:30 The Kim Kardashian Sex Tape
45:30 The Paris Robbery
48:00 Kanye, Anna Wintour & the Met Gala
55:00 Will Kim Run for Office?

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*SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row newsletter for more coverage like this: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription.*Referenced in this episode:
Facelift confessions, part 1: https://www.backrow.net/p/facelift-confessions-part-1-the-brutal-realities-of-getting-work-done
Facelift confessions, part 2: https://www.backrow.net/p/facelift-confessions-part-2-expect-an-emotional-tollIn 2004, Fox turned plastic surgery into primetime entertainment. The Swan reality show gave contestants about $200,000 worth of surgery each, put them on crash diets, banned mirrors for three months, and then put them in a beauty pageant. Nine million people watched. Erin Lee Carr, director of 'Mommy Dead and Dearest' and 'Britney vs Spears,' goes back to the women 20 years later in her hit Hulu documentary, The Swan: Behind the Mirror — and tells Amy what the documentary couldn't.CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
04:45 Getting the Swans to talk again
10:00 "I almost died for reality television"
19:30 How much choice did they have? "1%"
22:45 Starvation diets and spoonfuls of peanut butter
26:00 The nude photos Dr. Haworth kept
28:50 The $5 million contract
36:50 "Would you do it again?"
40:00 A classic Anna Wintour story


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