The Chuck ToddCast

In this episode of the Chuck ToddCast, Chuck tackles one of the most consequential counterfactuals in modern history: what if 9/11 never happened? He explores how the attacks fundamentally altered the American psyche, shattered a post–Cold War sense of security, and transformed how Americans consume news, driving the demand for instant information and accelerating the technologies that now dominate our lives. The conversation examines how U.S. politics, foreign policy, and polarization might have evolved without the War on Terror—no Patriot Act, no Department of Homeland Security, no Iraq War—and whether the political forces that produced figures like Trump and Obama would have emerged at all. From global relationships with Russia and China to the delayed reckoning over economic inequality and partisan division, this episode traces the ripple effects of an event that reshaped everything, and asks what might have filled the vacuum if it had never occurred. Then, Jonathan Martin, the politics bureau chief and senior political columnist at POLITICO joins the Chuck ToddCast to walk through his bold predictions for the political landscape heading into 2026, starting with the idea that Donald Trump’s second term is less about governing and more about validation, legacy, and self-mythmaking. The conversation explores Trump as a pop-culture figure obsessed with monuments, family dynasty, and loyalty—rather than policy—along with why the country proved vulnerable to a political huckster in the first place. Martin breaks down why a Supreme Court vacancy could reshape the cycle, why GOP turnout may sag without Trump on the ballot, and which Senate races—from Nebraska to Florida to Ohio—could unexpectedly come into play. The episode also looks ahead to the fault lines inside both parties: potential Trump family bids, early jockeying for the post-Trump GOP, and Democratic candidates who may help—or hurt—their own chances. Martin weighs in on foreign policy flashpoints that could define the next two years, from Iran to Venezuela to Trump’s transactional approach with China, as well as internal administration instability and cabinet shakeups. Plus, sharp takes on approval ratings, California’s unsettled political bench, why political dynasties still matter, and—because it wouldn’t be a Chuck Todd conversation without it—a few college football predictions to close things out. Thank you Wildgrain for sponsoring. Visit http://wildgrain.com/TODDCAST and use the code "TODDCAST" at checkout to receive $30 off your first box PLUS free Croissants for life! Timeline: (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements) 00:00 Chuck Todd’s introduction 03:00 “What if” 9/11 never happened? 03:45 9/11 changed how Americans consumed information 04:30 9/11 was the first true “hit” on the homeland 05:30 9/11 create a new sense of vulnerability in America 06:45 The trauma from 9/11 changed the American psyche 08:45 Prior to 9/11, America was living in a post cold-war calm 09:30 In 2000, the west was trying to court Russia into joining them 10:15 Both parties will bullish on integrating China into the world 11:45 Bush would have been more western hemisphere focused 12:45 Without 9/11, Washington would have been more polarized 13:45 The Bush presidency essentially began on 9/11 15:30 9/11 triggered a “need” for immediate information 16:30 Social media is created to provide immediate info 17:15 There’s no Patriot Act, Iraq war, War on Terror without 9/11 18:30 There would be no Department of Homeland Security 19:45 Homeland Security eventually became an immigration agency 21:45 The isolationist strain of MAGA may not materialize 23:15 Some of the responses to 9/11 led to rise of MAGA politics 25:00 9/11 created a new sense of urgency for following the news 26:15 9/11 sped up the adoption of new information technologies 28:15 Do we not have Trump or Obama without hyper-engaged politics? 29:00 John Kerry probably isn’t the nominee in 2004 without 9/11 30:30 What replaces 9/11 if it never happened? 30:45 Financial crisis still happens anyways 31:45 9/11 delayed the “uniparty reckoning” 32:45 Occupy Wall Street would supplant Tea Party as driving force in 2010 34:00 Without Iraq War, there’s less distinction between Clinton & Obama 35:30 9/11 delayed polarization, economic issues by a few years 37:30 “If 9/11 never happened” final conclusions 40:30 “What Ifs” left on the cutting room floor 49:00 Jonathan Martin joins the Chuck ToddCast 51:15 Of his 16 predictions for 2026, which ones stood out the most? 52:00 Trump’s second term is a victory lap, more about validation 53:00 Trump is obsessed with building monuments to himself 54:30 Trump doesn’t take the job seriously 56:30 Trump will likely slap his name on the memorial bridge 57:00 Trump is most like Teddy Roosevelt 58:15 Trump is more a pop culture archetype than a political one 59:00 The country turned out to be vulnerable to a huckster 59:30 Prediction of a Supreme Court seat coming open in 2026 1:00:30 Alito more likely to retire than Thomas 1:01:45 By October, it will be clear that senate is in play 1:03:00 Nebraska Dems cleared field for Dan Osborne 1:04:00 Trump not being on ballot could really suppress GOP turnout 1:05:30 Rumors that Don Jr. could run in Wyoming? 1:07:30 Folks in Jackson Hole with money always exploring political runs 1:08:15 Potential SCOTUS nominees if there’s a retirement? 1:09:45 The senate appointees from FL & OH get no traction 1:11:00 Paxton vs. Crockett would be a fascinating race in TX 1:11:45 Dems have a much better shot of winning in OH than TX 1:14:00 Biden could have cut deals with McConnell if government was split 1:15:15 Predictions on next country Trump hits with air strikes? 1:15:45 Regime in Iran could collapse in 2026 1:17:30 Netanyahu could be seen as most unstable force in middle east 1:18:30 Venezuela could become a huge political problem for Trump 1:20:30 In 1st term, leaks were about Trump, now they’re about cabinet 1:21:15 Kash Patel, Kristi Noem most likely to get booted from administration 1:23:30 GOP has political liabilities in Florida, senate race could be interesting 1:25:45 Could Jared Moskowitz be the wild card in the FL senate race? 1:26:30 Trump could be at 30% approval by Labor Day 1:27:15 Dem candidates that could hurt their chances by writing a book? 1:28:00 Without Covid, Buttigieg is likely the nominee in 2020 1:29:30 Newsom is easy to create a caricature of 1:30:30 Buttigieg is too smart to win in electoral politics 1:31:30 CA governor’s race field still doesn’t feel set 1:34:15 Swalwell can raise money, has backing from Pelosi 1:36:15 "Former mayor of SF” is a title that will sink you nationally 1:37:45 Ro Khanna avoids being associated with California 1:38:30 Which Republicans are most likely to challenge Vance? 1:39:45 A Trump will be a candidate, Donald obsessed with family name in politics 1:41:00 Trump won’t just hand off his coalition to Vance 1:42:15 Trump wants to create a political dynasty 1:44:30 Trump will get cozy with China, then claim he averted WW3 1:45:30 College football predictions 1:59:00 Chuck’s college football playoff reactionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode of the Chuck ToddCast, Chuck tackles one of the most consequential counterfactuals in modern history: what if 9/11 never happened? He explores how the attacks fundamentally altered the American psyche, shattered a post–Cold War sense of security, and transformed how Americans consume news, driving the demand for instant information and accelerating the technologies that now dominate our lives. The conversation examines how U.S. politics, foreign policy, and polarization might have evolved without the War on Terror—no Patriot Act, no Department of Homeland Security, no Iraq War—and whether the political forces that produced figures like Trump and Obama would have emerged at all. From global relationships with Russia and China to the delayed reckoning over economic inequality and partisan division, this episode traces the ripple effects of an event that reshaped everything, and asks what might have filled the vacuum if it had never occurred. Finally, Chuck reacts to his Miami Hurricanes upsetting Ohio State in the college football playoff and makes his predictions for the upcoming games. Thank you Wildgrain for sponsoring. Visit http://wildgrain.com/TODDCAST and use the code "TODDCAST" at checkout to receive $30 off your first box PLUS free Croissants for life! Timeline: (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements) 00:00 Chuck Todd’s introduction 03:00 “What if” 9/11 never happened? 03:45 9/11 changed how Americans consumed information 04:30 9/11 was the first true “hit” on the homeland 05:30 9/11 create a new sense of vulnerability in America 06:45 The trauma from 9/11 changed the American psyche 08:45 Prior to 9/11, America was living in a post cold-war calm 09:30 In 2000, the west was trying to court Russia into joining them 10:15 Both parties will bullish on integrating China into the world 11:45 Bush would have been more western hemisphere focused 12:45 Without 9/11, Washington would have been more polarized 13:45 The Bush presidency essentially began on 9/11 15:30 9/11 triggered a “need” for immediate information 16:30 Social media is created to provide immediate info 17:15 There’s no Patriot Act, Iraq war, War on Terror without 9/11 18:30 There would be no Department of Homeland Security 19:45 Homeland Security eventually became an immigration agency 21:45 The isolationist strain of MAGA may not materialize 23:15 Some of the responses to 9/11 led to rise of MAGA politics 25:00 9/11 created a new sense of urgency for following the news 26:15 9/11 sped up the adoption of new information technologies 28:15 Do we not have Trump or Obama without hyper-engaged politics? 29:00 John Kerry probably isn’t the nominee in 2004 without 9/11 30:30 What replaces 9/11 if it never happened? 30:45 Financial crisis still happens anyways 31:45 9/11 delayed the “uniparty reckoning” 32:45 Occupy Wall Street would supplant Tea Party as driving force in 2010 34:00 Without Iraq War, there’s less distinction between Clinton & Obama 35:30 9/11 delayed polarization, economic issues by a few years 37:30 “If 9/11 never happened” final conclusions 40:30 “What Ifs” left on the cutting room floor 49:15 Chuck’s college football playoff reactionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jonathan Martin, the politics bureau chief and senior political columnist at POLITICO joins the Chuck ToddCast to walk through his bold predictions for the political landscape heading into 2026, starting with the idea that Donald Trump’s second term is less about governing and more about validation, legacy, and self-mythmaking. The conversation explores Trump as a pop-culture figure obsessed with monuments, family dynasty, and loyalty—rather than policy—along with why the country proved vulnerable to a political huckster in the first place. Martin breaks down why a Supreme Court vacancy could reshape the cycle, why GOP turnout may sag without Trump on the ballot, and which Senate races—from Nebraska to Florida to Ohio—could unexpectedly come into play. The episode also looks ahead to the fault lines inside both parties: potential Trump family bids, early jockeying for the post-Trump GOP, and Democratic candidates who may help—or hurt—their own chances. Martin weighs in on foreign policy flashpoints that could define the next two years, from Iran to Venezuela to Trump’s transactional approach with China, as well as internal administration instability and cabinet shakeups. Plus, sharp takes on approval ratings, California’s unsettled political bench, why political dynasties still matter, and—because it wouldn’t be a Chuck Todd conversation without it—a few college football predictions to close things out. Thank you Wildgrain for sponsoring. Visit http://wildgrain.com/TODDCAST and use the code "TODDCAST" at checkout to receive $30 off your first box PLUS free Croissants for life! Timeline: (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements) 00:00 Jonathan Martin joins the Chuck ToddCast 02:15 Of his 16 predictions for 2026, which ones stood out the most? 03:00 Trump’s second term is a victory lap, more about validation 04:00 Trump is obsessed with building monuments to himself 05:30 Trump doesn’t take the job seriously 07:30 Trump will likely slap his name on the memorial bridge 08:00 Trump is most like Teddy Roosevelt 09:15 Trump is more a pop culture archetype than a political one 10:00 The country turned out to be vulnerable to a huckster 10:30 Prediction of a Supreme Court seat coming open in 2026 11:30 Alito more likely to retire than Thomas 12:45 By October, it will be clear that senate is in play 14:00 Nebraska Dems cleared field for Dan Osborne 15:00 Trump not being on ballot could really suppress GOP turnout 16:30 Rumors that Don Jr. could run in Wyoming? 18:30 Folks in Jackson Hole with money always exploring political runs 19:15 Potential SCOTUS nominees if there’s a retirement? 20:45 The senate appointees from FL & OH get no traction 22:00 Paxton vs. Crockett would be a fascinating race in TX 22:45 Dems have a much better shot of winning in OH than TX 25:00 Biden could have cut deals with McConnell if government was split 26:15 Predictions on next country Trump hits with air strikes? 26:45 Regime in Iran could collapse in 2026 28:30 Netanyahu could be seen as most unstable force in middle east 29:30 Venezuela could become a huge political problem for Trump 31:30 In 1st term, leaks were about Trump, now they’re about cabinet 32:15 Kash Patel, Kristi Noem most likely to get booted from administration 34:30 GOP has political liabilities in Florida, senate race could be interesting 36:45 Could Jared Moskowitz be the wild card in the FL senate race? 37:30 Trump could be at 30% approval by Labor Day 38:15 Dem candidates that could hurt their chances by writing a book? 39:00 Without Covid, Buttigieg is likely the nominee in 2020 40:30 Newsom is easy to create a caricature of 41:30 Buttigieg is too smart to win in electoral politics 42:30 CA governor’s race field still doesn’t feel set 45:15 Swalwell can raise money, has backing from Pelosi 47:15 "Former mayor of SF” is a title that will sink you nationally 48:45 Ro Khanna avoids being associated with California 49:30 Which Republicans most likely to challenge Vance? 50:45 A Trump will be a candidate, Donald obsessed with family name in politics 52:00 Trump won’t just hand off his coalition to Vance 53:15 Trump wants to create a political dynasty 55:30 Trump will get cozy with China, then claim he averted WW3 56:30 College football predictionsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Chuck Todd is on vacation, but the news never sleeps! Chuck gives his initial thoughts to the Trump administration's military operation in Venezuela to capture President Nicolas Maduro, the motivations behind it, and why the success of the operation may emboldened Trump to take even riskier actions. Thank you Wildgrain for sponsoring. Visit http://wildgrain.com/TODDCAST and use the code "TODDCAST" at checkout to receive $30 off your first box PLUS free Croissants for life!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nuclear engineer & former Miss America, Grace Vanderhei joins Chuck Todd to break down the realities of nuclear energy—what’s safer than most people think, what genuinely needs fixing, and why public perception has lagged so far behind the science. From how she got into nuclear engineering to how disasters like Fukushima reshaped the industry’s momentum, Grace explains why rare accidents dominate the narrative, even as nuclear power remains one of the safest jobs in the country. The conversation explores America’s aging nuclear infrastructure, the challenges of upgrading decades-old plants, and why rising grid demand from AI is pushing utilities to restart and refurbish reactors instead of building new ones. Chuck and Grace also dig into the promise and limits of small modular reactors, the unresolved problem of nuclear waste storage, and how pop culture—from Homer Simpson to Hollywood—has warped the way we think about nuclear energy, all while pointing listeners to where they can follow Grace’s work and research. Get your wardrobe sorted and your gift list handled with Quince. Don't wait! Go to https://Quince.com/CHUCK for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too! Go to https://getsoul.com & enter code TODDCAST for 30% off your first order. Protect your family with life insurance from Ethos. Get up to $3 million in coverage in as little as 10 minutes at https://ethos.com/chuck. Application times may vary. Rates may vary. Timeline: (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements) 00:00 Chuck Todd’s introduction 00:45 Why the ToddCast decided to do the “New Voices” series 01:45 Grace Vanderhei is a former Miss America, now promoting nuclear energy 02:30 Nuclear energy is generally safe, but when it’s not safe it’s catastrophic 03:30 Environmentalists are split on nuclear power 04:45 Demand for power is way up, nuclear power will be needed to meet it 8:15 Grace Vanderhei joins the Chuck ToddCast 9:30 How Grace got into nuclear engineering 13:00 Advances in the tools engineers use 14:30 Fukushima disaster set back momentum in nuclear industry 15:45 Every nuclear facility stores emergency backup parts close by 17:15 Disasters are rare, but capture the public perception of nuclear 18:45 Nuclear tends to be more associated with weapons than energy 20:45 How big of a concern is America’s aging nuclear infrastructure? 23:15 Difficulties with updating decades old nuclear pants? 24:45 Grid demand from AI has led to restarting old nuclear plants 25:30 Refurbishing vs. building new nuclear plants 26:45 The nuclear plant decommissioning process 28:45 Three mile island wasn’t far into decommissioning before refurbishment 30:45 The development of small, modular nuclear reactors 32:15 Small modular reactors are on submarines, not used commercially yet 33:45 Safe, workable SMR’s are still a few years away 35:30 Other countries have surpassed US’s ability to build nuclear power 36:15 Which popular misconceptions are easiest to debunk? 37:30 There are only 6 safer jobs than working at a nuclear plant 38:45 Environmental community has always been divided over nuclear 40:15 Challenges of storing nuclear waste 41:15 There aren’t great current options for storing commercial nuclear waste 43:45 Is Homer Simpson good or bad for perception of nuclear energy? 45:15 Where you can find Grace’s workSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.