The Accountant Quits Podcast

Even if it’s relatively straightforward to export transactions from block explorers, how do you know for a fact that the data is complete and accurate?
Block explorers have not been designed for accounting purposes, and turning the complexities of on-chain transactions into an enterprise grade data for your accounting is quite a challenge.
Cryptoworth provides the operating system to convert the complex blockchain data from wallets, exchanges, and custodians into your accounting software to facilitate your reporting, audits and tax filings.
Cryptoworth supports around 100 blockchains, 56 exchanges, over 700 DeFi protocols and has already onboarded more than 1,200 users using their platform. 
Their users include web3 industry leaders, including Aave, Axie Infinity, Celo, Moonbeam, Request Finance amongst others.
On Episode 43, I spoke with its co-founder & CEO Geeth Jay.
Topics covered;
Geeth’s background and how he got interested with blockchain (2:24)
Completeness & accuracy of transactions from block explorers (5:17)
Different block explorers for the same blockchain (6:42)
Different block explorers for different blockchains (7:56)
Reconciliation exercises (9:49)
Common transaction deviations (11:12)
Running your own nodes & indexing the data yourself (12:19)
Public v/s private blockchains (14:42)
Overview of Cryptoworth (16:35)
How to get on boarded with Cryptoworth (19:03)
Use cases for using Cryptoworth (21:13)
Difference between using Excel v/s Cryptoworth (23:06)
How is Cryptoworth different to other competitors like Cryptio, Bitwave, Consola, Tres Finance, Integral (25:38)
Joining Web3CFO Club (17:29)
Can Cryptoworth be both a crypto sub ledger & main ledger (28:32)
How does pricing work (30:41)
Features available with minimum pricing package (33:50)
Overview of Cryptoworth Alliance program (35:05)
Challenges for adoption (36:32)
Should accountants specialize on specific chains (39:04)
Roadmap in 2023 (40:09)
DeFi & NFT modules for tracking positions, income & expenses (41:13)
Closing thoughts (43:28)
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MiCA's transitional deadline closed on July 1st, 2026.
Some of the biggest names in the industry lost the ability to serve European clients overnight.
But one jurisdiction rose to become a MiCA licensing hub: Malta.
It's now ranked 4th for CASP (Crypto Asset Service Providers) authorizations, and 2nd for Other Crypto Assets.
In this episode, we spoke with Joseph Axisa, Managing Partner at Axis, a MiCA advisory practice based in Malta, working with some of the industry's most recognisable names, including Arbitrum DAO, Rain, Ether.Fi, Rhinofi, and Legion.cc

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Topics covered:
(0:00) Coming Up
(2:56) Joseph’s story into digital assets
(6:30) Overview of Axis services
(8:16) How companies navigated MiCA compliance
(11:55) Choosing Malta for MiCA compliance
(17:48) Filing requirements post MiCA licence
(19:19) Submitting a MiCA whitepaper
(25:23) Common objections from regulator
(27:45) Get 10% off with Kryptos subledger
(29:10)  Title II whitepaper & Other Category
(31:57) Do all  L1 & L2s need MiCA licence
(32:44)  PSD2 and EMD2 v/s MiCA for payment platforms
(37:29) Interpreting onchain actions and smart contracts for MiCA
(39:56) Etherscan as a  passive front-end
(42:46) Decentralization exemption under  Recital 22
(45:17)  DeFi protocols and MiCA
(47:14) Reverse solicitation v/s direct solicitation
(49:47) Onchain vaults don’t trigger MiCA, but AIFMD
(57:53) How Axis Advisory uses AI
(01:04:00) Closing thoughts
(01:05:09) Favourite quote
(01:05:57) How to reach out to Joseph & Axis

Daniel Lian has built 3 crypto finance functions from scratch: at dYdX Labs, Walrus Foundation, and now fomo. Same job title, three completely different setups.
At dYdX Labs, he was the first finance hire, building treasury from zero. At Walrus Foundation, it meant a multi entity foreign structure including a Cayman Foundation, a token airdrop, and grant programs.
Now at fomo, who recently fundraised $75million through a  Series B, there is no token or foundation, just a lean team building a social trading app.

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Topics covered:
(0:00) Coming Up
(2:27) Story behind joining dYdX
(5:02) Challenges starting out at dYdX
(8:32) Resources for learning onchain finance
(10:14) Managing a token airdrop at Walrus
(12:55) Get 10% off with Kryptos subledger
(14:21) Differences between working for a Lab Co v/s Foundation
(16:15) Setting up finance at fomo without a token
(19:53) Where can finance leaders add more leverage
(21:50) Ops challenges working for a trading app
(24:01) Tech stack - subledger, custody & banks
(26:33) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance
(29:09) Tips on areas to address as a new hire
(30:55) Capital allocation decisions
(33:50) Web2 CFO v/s Web3 CFO
(35:47) Career advice to transition into web3
(37:11) How are you using AI
(39:51) Closing thoughts
(41:09) Favourite quote
(42:15) Reach out to Daniel

Onchain analytics splits into two buckets: Research & Reporting (Dune dashboards, DeFi volume, DAO treasuries) and Risk & Compliance, which layers on attribution (naming wallet clusters) and risk scoring (sanctions, AML exposure) using tools like Chainalysis, TRM Labs, and Elliptic.
This episode focuses on the Risk & Compliance side with Leopoldt Jansen Van Vuuren, Head of Onchain Analytics at Provenance, a compliance firm serving 400+ clients across 18 jurisdictions in VASPs, crypto funds, tokenised offerings, and DAOs.

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Topics covered:
(0:00) Coming Up
(3:13) Leopoldt’s background
(5:58) Attribution v/s risk scoring
(11:16) Tooling like Chainalysis, TRM Labs, Elliptic
(17:25) Chokepoints for bad actors
(20:27) Using mixing protocols like Tornado Cash
(22:12) Get 10% off with Kryptos subledger
(23:37) Choosing between compliance tools
(28:03) Other tools like anchain, Cyvers, Hoptrail
(29:14) Provenance Services
(36:55)  Fractional Compliance Officer model
(41:04) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance
(42:44) Accountability using outsourced model
(46:03) Regulatory update with FATF, Travel Rule, CARF
(49:55) Recurring compliance challenges
(51:53) Comfort letter for fund administrators
(53:57) Verifying wallet ownership
(56:56) New investor subscription process for funds
(58:01) Tokenized funds regulatory update for Cayman Islands
(01:01:14) Using AI for onchain analytics
(01:04:44) Closing thoughts
(01:05:54) Favourite quote
(01:07:11) Reach out to Leopoldt

Roman Schnider spent 15 years at PwC, where he helped build their blockchain assurance practice back in 2016.
In 2019, he became CFO of the Tezos Foundation, managing one of the largest crypto treasuries in the industry, over $500 million in fiat, BTC, and XTZ.
In 2023, he left to launch inandon, a Swiss firm offering CFO as a Service, accounting, and compliance to web3 companies. And in 2025, he set up Blockfort, a Swiss regulated VASP custodian, built on top of Fireblocks.

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Topics covered:
(0:00) Coming Up
(2:39) Roman’s origin story at PwC
(7:31) From Tezos to in and on
(10:12) CFO as a Service explained
(12:43) Common objections from client
(16:19) CFO as a Service deliverables
(18:11) Web3 specific deliverables
(20:09) Get 10% off with Kryptos subledger
(21:36) Lessons learned from managing Tezos Foundation treasury
(27:32) Switzerland as a jurisdiction for foundations
(30:47) Landing 1st clients at in and on
(33:35) Lessons from training the team for digital assets
(38:02) Compliance services
(41:07) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance
(44:06) Blockfort for custody
(50:40) Blockfort v/s Fireblocks
(54:04) Onboarding with Blockfort
(56:11) Using AI safely for clients
(01:00:57) Looking into the future with stablecoins
(01:03:12) Favourite quote
(01:03:55) Reach out to Roman