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The Accountant Quits Podcast

Podcast The Accountant Quits Podcast
Umar Mallam Hassam
Welcome to The Accountant Quits podcast, an idea born from an inquisitive attempt to find one’s calling. I’m Umar and I will be your host on this series where w...

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  • #82: Managing Data in a Multi-Blockchain World with Noves
    As the number of new blockchains and protocols continues to surge, accountants face an increasingly complex challenge in reconciling on-chain data. With no universal standard for blockchain data, and significant variations in how different chains operate, the task becomes even more daunting. Accountants are not engineers, they rely on tools like sub-ledgers and tax tracking platforms to handle crypto accounting and tax compliance. To help us understand how to navigate through managing data in a multi-blockchain world, I spoke with Ben Roy, the CEO & Co-Founder at Noves. Noves offers infinite scalability in on-chain data coverage, enabling seamless retrieval and transformation of data from any chain. Instead of merely providing raw data, Noves enriches and standardizes it into useful formats tailored for accounting and tax purposes. ✅ OUR RESOURCES 💌 Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant ⁠⁠https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter⁠⁠ 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto ⁠⁠https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy⁠⁠  ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits⁠⁠  👉 Twitter(X): ⁠⁠https://x.com/accountantquits⁠⁠  👉 YouTube: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits⁠⁠  🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Ben Roy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-roy-9a9a712/ 🎧 Website For show notes and past guests, please visit ⁠⁠https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered; (0:00) Coming Up (0:55) Episode intro (2:49) Noves origin story (4:32) The current state blockchains, protocols, & tokens (8:06)  Why isn’t blockchain data formatted for accounting and tax reporting (12:24) Will onchain data become more standardized (14:22) Should sub-ledgers tackle the data problem (16:25) What should be the sub-ledger role ( 18:50) Thanks to our sponsor Octav (20:31) How does Noves help with managing onchain data (22:56) Use cases for Noves (24:27) How can accountants use Noves (26:27) API products (29:06) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance (30:46) Positioning against competitors like Datai, Octav, DeBank (33:55) AI agents for onchain data (37:50) Closing thoughts (39:42) Reach out to Ben
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  • #81: Digital Assets Tax Updates for 2025 with RSM US
    Donald Trump’s presidency is stirring up buzz in the web3 communities. Builders and users alike are optimistic about how the new administration could shape the future of digital assets, with promises of clearer regulations and greater adoption of cryptocurrencies on the horizon. But while we wait for these changes to take effect, there are already some major tax updates you need to know. To help us navigate these complex but important updates, I spoke with RSM US, one of the largest accounting firms in the world and a leader in the digital assets space, with some of their web3 clients including Ondo, Stellar, Binance, Paradigm, Bitgo and Consensys. And joining us are Skip Carlson, Digital Assets Market Leader at RSM US, and John Cardone, Senior Tax Director. ✅ OUR RESOURCES 💌 Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant ⁠https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter⁠ 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto ⁠https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy⁠  ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits⁠  👉 Twitter(X): ⁠https://x.com/accountantquits⁠  👉 YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits⁠  🎙️ Follow Episode Guests 1. Skip Carlson, Digital Assets Market Leader: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sterlingcarlson/ 2. John Cardone, Senior Tax Director: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-cardone-436412b1/ 🎧 Website For show notes and past guests, please visit ⁠https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics Covered: (0:00) Coming Up (0:44) Episode intro (2:59) Guests intro & roles at RSM (4:21) Safe harbor relief & wallet-level tracking (9:11) How IRS defines a wallet (11:02) What to look for in a subledger with wallet-level tracking (12:45)  TD 121 and new broker reporting requirements (18:49) Notice 25-7 for taxpayers holding crypto with brokers ( 22:34) Thanks to our sponsor Octav ( 24:16) Created Property Argument & staking rewards (30:09) Role of node operator’s geography for recognizing revenue (31:51) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance (33:30) Frozen staking rewards on exchanges (35:45) Valuing airdrops (38:59) Token migrations and tax liabilities (43:13) New regulations under Trump’s administration (44:33) Stand out US states for crypto (46:26) RSM services for digital assets (51:15) Upskilling RSM employees with blockchain (53:20) Areas to pay attention to in 2025 (56:24) Favorite maxim (57:29) How to reach out to John & Skip
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  • #80: 2024 Wrapped - plus new courses & upgraded community for 2025
    In this special New Year's episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on what The Accountant Quits has been up to in 2024 and giving you an exclusive preview of what’s ahead in 2025. I’ll dive into the milestones we’ve hit, from the Crypto Accounting Academy’s relative success to the launch of the Crypto Accounting Accelerator. Plus, I’ll highlight the growth of our weekly newsletter, the debut of our tools page for navigating crypto accounting, finance, and operations, and key takeaways from the conferences I attended in 2024. But that’s not all, I’m also revealing exciting new courses for 2025, the launch of our community offering, and the highly anticipated accreditation that’s been in the works. ✅ OUR RESOURCES 💌 Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant ⁠https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter⁠ 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto ⁠https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy⁠  ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits⁠  👉 Twitter(X): ⁠https://x.com/accountantquits⁠  👉 YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits⁠  🎧 Website For show notes and past guests, please visit ⁠https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast⁠ Topics Covered; (0:00) Intro (1:14) Crypto Accounting Academy Growth (4:22) Students’ feedback (5:14) New modules (8:59) Crypto Accounting Accelerator launch (9:57) Podcast recipe for consistency (12:13) Building an email list & weekly newsletter (13:59) Share your thought leadership through articles (15:51) Tools library for crypto accounting (16:45) Lessons from conferences in 2024 (19:29) New courses in 2025 (21:48) New community offering (22:35) NASBA accreditation (24:13) Closing thoughts and quote
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  • #79: DAO Services in the Cayman Islands with Karel Olivier from Lemma
    One school of thought argues that DAOs should avoid any legal structure and remain unregistered in all jurisdictions. But having a legal entity allows the DAO to engage in contracts with other real-world entities, and perhaps the biggest of all, A legal entity protects the individual participants of a DAO from unlimited liability. One structure that has gained popularity is the Cayman Islands Foundation structure. This facilitates opening bank accounts, exchange accounts, or dealing with vendors and market makers for the DAO. Now while this setup doesn't need shareholders, it does require local directors, a Supervisor, a Secretary, and a DAO Administrator. On Episode 79, I spoke with Karel Olivier, Lemma’s CEO & Co-Founder, to discuss their range of DAO Administrator services for DAOs in the Cayman Islands. Some of the DAOs that Lemma works with include SuperRare, Balancer, ENS, Gitcoin, Ethena, and more. ✅ OUR RESOURCES 💌 Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy  ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits  👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits  👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits  🎙️ Follow Episode GuestsLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karel-olivier/ 🎧 Website For show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics Covered; (0:00) Coming Up (0:50) Episode intro (2:55) Why Cayman Islands & incorporation set up (5:43) Roles of directors, secretary, supervisor & DAO administrator (8:27) DAO operator v/s DAO administrator (9:36) Should director & DAO operator be the same person (12:30) Role of supervisor with governance (15:23) Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy (18:11) Pre-TGE, TGE & Post-TGE (25:11) Highlights of the 2024 amended VASP Act (27:28) Paragraph 8b on vested interest for directors (30:08) Governance process for DAOs & tools (33:59) ENS governance process (35:37) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance (37:18) Opening a bank account & crypto-friendly banks (39:48) Other important service providers (42:15) Common mistakes around grants program (52:36) Lemma services for pre-TGE, TGE, post-TGE (56:04) Story behind Lemma’s name (57:55) Filing requirements for DAO foundations (59:45) Financial reporting of DAO to the community (1:02:15) Closing thoughts (1:04:03) Does Lemma work with other jurisdictions (1:05:47) Karel’s favorite quote (1:07:32) Reach out to Karel
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  • #78: Becoming a Web3 CFO with Zac Hogg from Solana Foundation
    A recurring theme among the CFOs I've interviewed is their common starting point: a lot of them started out at the Big4 accounting firms. I call these places boot camps for accountants - you’re surrounded by some of the brightest minds in accounting, working on massive clients, and the name on your resume alone gets people to take you seriously. Yes, the hours are grueling, and the starting pay is modest. But for those willing to embrace the grind, the payoff isn’t just a paycheck - it’s the foundation for a career that stands out in the crowded accounting space. On Episode 78, I spoke with Zac Hogg, the Financial Controller at the Solana Foundation. Zac’s journey started with nearly three years at PwC in their assurance department before he made the leap into the industry, working in companies like eToro & now the Solana Foundation. ✅ OUR RESOURCES 💌 Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant ⁠https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter⁠ 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy  ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits  👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits  👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits  🎙️ Follow Episode Guests Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zachoggcpa/  🎧 Website For show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics Covered: (0:00) Coming Up (0:56) Episode intro (2:59) Experience working at PwC (9:29) Getting a job at eToro (15:04) Why work in web3 (17:06) Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy (19:53) Getting hired at Solana Foundation (22:28) First responsibilities (26:33) Helpful resources when starting out (30:52) Size of the team (33:45) Solana’s growing ecosystem & impact on Finance team (35:35) Web3 tools that integrate with Solana (43:31) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance (45:10) Tools to track staked assets & staking rewards on Solana (48:16) Subledgers & staking features (50:31) External audit learnings (58:42) Web2 accountant v/s web3 accountant (1:03:40) Exciting projects on Solana (1:06:48) Career opportunities in web3
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Welcome to The Accountant Quits podcast, an idea born from an inquisitive attempt to find one’s calling. I’m Umar and I will be your host on this series where we look into the impact of blockchain in accounting. From topics around the accounting treatment of cryptocurrencies, the new framework of triple entry accounting, the challenges at hand for audit and tax, and many more, we will look into how the profession of accounting is evolving and how accountants should prepare themselves for the future of work. Website - www.theaccountantquits.com
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