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What if the prescription wasn't a pill, but cash? Rx Kids gives expecting and new mothers up to $7,500, no questions asked. Laura Keen from GiveDirectly explains why giving money to everyone — not just the poorest — actually works better, why nearly every eligible mom in Flint signed up, and what happened to preterm births, evictions, and depression when communities invested in families from day one. Plus, how a program centered on babies united both sides of the political aisle.

References for Our Discussion
◼️The US town that pays every pregnant woman $1,500: ‘We’re not OK with our babies being born into poverty’ 
◼️Direct Unconditional Cash Transfers Boost Well-Being for Mothers and Babies 
◼️Perinatal Cash Transfers and Birth Outcomes: A Population-Based, Quasi-Experimental Study of the Rx Kids Unconditional Cash Prescription During Pregnancy and Infancy 
◼️Hardship and Hope: The Relationship Between Unconditional Prenatal and Infant Cash Transfers, Economic Stability, and Maternal Mental Health and Well-Being
◼️To End Extreme Poverty, Give Cash — Not Advice | Rory Stewart | TED
◼️New research: Cash for pregnant moms in Flint led to healthier births and millions in healthcare savings 

Guest
◼️Laura Keen, U.S. Program Director, GiveDirectly

Host
◼️Gordon Thane, BMSc, MPH, PMP®

Producer
◼️Gordon Thane, BMSc, MPH, PMP®
◼️Abhinya Gulasingam

Production Notes
◼️ Music from Johnny Harris x Tom Fox: The Music Room

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Flint, Michigan was once known as one of America's most prosperous industrial cities. Decades of deindustrialization and a water crisis changed that, but crisis isn't the whole story. Laura Keen of GiveDirectly joins the podcast to explore the resilience behind the popular headlines, the gaps in America's safety net, and what the expanded Child Tax Credit revealed about child poverty. All of it set the stage for Rx Kids — one of the most ambitious social programs in the country.

References for Our Discussion
◼️The US town that pays every pregnant woman $1,500: ‘We’re not OK with our babies being born into poverty’ 
◼️Direct Unconditional Cash Transfers Boost Well-Being for Mothers and Babies 
◼️Perinatal Cash Transfers and Birth Outcomes: A Population-Based, Quasi-Experimental Study of the Rx Kids Unconditional Cash Prescription During Pregnancy and Infancy 
◼️Hardship and Hope: The Relationship Between Unconditional Prenatal and Infant Cash Transfers, Economic Stability, and Maternal Mental Health and Well-Being
◼️To End Extreme Poverty, Give Cash — Not Advice | Rory Stewart | TED
◼️New research: Cash for pregnant moms in Flint led to healthier births and millions in healthcare savings 

Guest
◼️Laura Keen, U.S. Program Director, GiveDirectly

Host
◼️Gordon Thane, BMSc, MPH, PMP®

Producer
◼️Gordon Thane, BMSc, MPH, PMP®
◼️Abhinya Gulasingam

Production Notes

◼️ Music from Johnny Harris x Tom Fox: The Music Room

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She studied philosophy at UPenn, sharpened her Spanish watching telenovelas with a host mom in silk robes and kitten heels, then moved to Peru and built staircases so families wouldn't fall carrying water. Laura Keen's path wound through cocoa farms in West Africa, anti-trafficking work in the Amazon, and the inner workings of fair trade — each stop ultimately leading her to GiveDirectly and a radically simple idea that's reshaping how we think about poverty. 

References for Our Discussion
◼️The US town that pays every pregnant woman $1,500: ‘We’re not OK with our babies being born into poverty’ 
◼️Direct Unconditional Cash Transfers Boost Well-Being for Mothers and Babies 
◼️Perinatal Cash Transfers and Birth Outcomes: A Population-Based, Quasi-Experimental Study of the Rx Kids Unconditional Cash Prescription During Pregnancy and Infancy 
◼️Hardship and Hope: The Relationship Between Unconditional Prenatal and Infant Cash Transfers, Economic Stability, and Maternal Mental Health and Well-Being
◼️To End Extreme Poverty, Give Cash — Not Advice | Rory Stewart | TED
◼️New research: Cash for pregnant moms in Flint led to healthier births and millions in healthcare savings 

Guest
◼️Laura Keen, U.S. Program Director, GiveDirectly

Host
◼️Gordon Thane, BMSc, MPH, PMP®

Producer
◼️Gordon Thane, BMSc, MPH, PMP®
◼️Abhinya Gulasingam

Production Notes

◼️ Music from Johnny Harris x Tom Fox: The Music Room

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If you enjoy our podcasts, be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating on Apple Podcast or Spotify, and spread the word to your friends to help us get discovered by more people. You can also interact directly with the podcast episodes on Spotify using the new “comment” feature! We’d love to hear what you think.

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Imagine surviving a snake bite only to battle depression for years. Half of hospitals can't properly treat snake bites and almost all healthcare workers struggle to administer life-saving anti-venom in many ways. Dr. David Lalloo illuminates a crisis killing more people than many familiar diseases, yet receiving a fraction of the funding. 

From recent strides in quality control to universal antivenom approaches and simple prevention measures, this conversation reveals the challenges of snakebite envenoming and the promising solutions that could finally end it.

References for Our Discussion
◼️Strike Out Snakebite: The Global Snakebite Taskforce
◼️Snakebites kill 130,000 people a year. This UK lab may have the answer
◼️Why giant statues of snakes popped up in Geneva

Guest
◼️Professor David Lalloo

Host
◼️Gordon Thane, BMSc, MPH, PMP®

Producer
◼️Gordon Thane, BMSc, MPH, PMP®
◼️Abhinya Gulasingam

Production Notes

◼️ Music from Johnny Harris x Tom Fox: The Music Room

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Right now, someone is being bitten by a venomous snake. Over the course of a year, 138,000 deaths and 400,000 disabilities. Yet snake bite remains one of the world's most neglected health crises.
Professor David Lalloo explains why this preventable tragedy persists—from the science of venom to the economics of anti-venom, and why the right treatment might not exist where people need it most.

References for Our Discussion
◼️Snakebites kill 130,000 people a year. This UK lab may have the answer
◼️Why giant statues of snakes popped up in Geneva

Guest
◼️Professor David Lalloo

Host
◼️Gordon Thane, BMSc, MPH, PMP®

Producer
◼️Gordon Thane, BMSc, MPH, PMP®
◼️Abhinya Gulasingam

Production Notes

◼️ Music from Johnny Harris x Tom Fox: The Music Room

Leave Us Some Feedback
If you enjoy our podcasts, be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating on Apple Podcast or Spotify, and spread the word to your friends to help us get discovered by more people. You can also interact directly with the podcast episodes on Spotify using the new “comment” feature! We’d love to hear what you think.

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