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Product Marketing Adventures

Elle Grossenbacher
Product Marketing Adventures
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  • Product Marketing Adventures

    Use a PMM AI agent like a Docebo PMM

    2026/2/03 | 57 mins.
    Product marketers, you know this pain. You need insights yesterday, but the data is scattered across calls, surveys, dashboards, and internal docs. In this episode, Emily Pick shares how she used AI agents to run a multi-layered messaging gap analysis in just two hours, turning what normally takes weeks into a repeatable process. The big lesson is not magic prompts. It is getting clear on inputs first, then using automation to pull the right data, and finally using AI to pressure-test narratives and messaging angles fast.
    We also cover why feedback loops matter if you want the insights to stick. Emily shares how she validates findings with product, demand gen, and stakeholders so the work gets sharper and earns trust. Then we finish with a messaging critique of Granola.ai, an AI note-taking tool with a refreshingly clear promise for people in back-to-back meetings, plus a smart “Crunched” campaign. The opportunity is emotional differentiation. In a crowded market, the story is not just better notes. It is being present in the meeting.
    Key Takeaways

    Start with inputs, not tools. Define the data that actually matters before you touch AI
    Automate collection so you can spend time on narrative, not admin
    Use AI to explore and test messaging angles quickly, not to replace strategy
    Build feedback loops to validate insights and increase stakeholder buy-in
    Messaging wins when it is consistent, specific, and emotionally resonant

    LINKS

    Messaging Critique:
    Granola.ai
    https://www.granola.ai/

    Connect with Emily: 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilypick/
    Connect with Elle:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elle3izabeth/
  • Product Marketing Adventures

    Craft product launch tiers like an Atlassian PMM

    2026/1/20 | 1h 9 mins.
    Product launches are never “just a launch.” Some releases quietly drive retention, others reshape the business, and treating every launch like a Tier 1 moment creates burnout internally and noise externally. In this episode, Ashley Faus, Head of Lifecycle Marketing at Atlassian, breaks down how Atlassian thinks about launch tiers and how PMMs can use tiering to align teams, set expectations, and ship with more clarity and less chaos.
    Ashley walks through what actually makes a tiering framework work, starting with auditing how launches have been run in your org, then aligning tiers to impact across customers, the company, and the ecosystem. She shares how to build buy-in through a cross-functional roadshow, and how to map tactics to tiers based on intended impact, not a checklist of activities.
    We also take a look at the messaging of Contentstack in our messaging critique segment. We go through a real example of channel mismatch, where a strong billboard promise did not match the vague website headline, and what changed when feedback forced the messaging to become clearer and more consistent. The takeaway is simple: even the best launch plan falls apart if the message people land on does not match the message that got their attention in the first place.

    Key Takeaways

    Launch tiers create clarity by aligning effort to impact, not internal workload
    Audit past launches to build a framework your org will actually adopt
    Get cross-functional buy-in through a roadshow before you lock the tiers
    Map tactics to the tier’s impact, not a bigger list of activities
    Messaging consistency across channels is non-negotiable for launch success

    LINKS

    Messaging Critique:

    Contentstack:
    https://www.contentstack.com/

    Connect with Ashley:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyfaus/
    Connect with Elle:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elle3izabeth/
  • Product Marketing Adventures

    Prove Product Marketing Value Like a Cordial PMM

    2026/1/06 | 46 mins.
    Every product marketer knows the feeling of walking into a meeting, bracing to prove your worth because most people do not really understand what product marketing actually does. We are all experts at crafting messaging and launching products, but translating that work into business results that leadership can see and believe in is where so many PMMs get stuck. Today, we're talking about how to demonstrate product marketing value in a way that is simple, credible, and impossible to misunderstand. Julien Sauvage, CMO at Cordial and former PMM leader at Salesforce, Gong, and Clari, joins us to share his expertise.

    Julien explains his practical playbook for proving impact, based on his experience at Gong where he directly linked messaging changes to sales outcomes. He shares how to start with a single metric, build a narrative, train your sales team, and use data to measure adoption and results. This approach proves value and creates a culture of continuous improvement and alignment with business priorities.

    We also break down the messaging strategies of UserGems and ZoomInfo, showing why clarity and specificity matter for every brand, no matter the size. Julien’s advice for PMMs is to focus on business outcomes, keep your approach flexible, and make your narrative impossible to ignore. Tune in for actionable strategies and real-world examples that will help you make your product marketing impact clear and compelling.

    Key Takeaways:

    Start with one clear metric to define and measure your impact
    Build a narrative and enable your sales team with hands-on training
    Use data to track adoption and outcomes, then refine your approach
    Prioritise clarity and specificity in your messaging, regardless of your brand’s size
    Keep your strategy flexible and always align with business priorities

    LINKS

    Messaging Critique:

    ZoomInfo: https://www.zoominfo.com/ 
    UserGems: https://www.usergems.com/ 

    Connect with Julien:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julien-sauvage/ 

    Connect with Elle:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elle3izabeth/
  • Product Marketing Adventures

    The PMM Summit Series: Coaching Hour with Yi Lin Pei

    2025/12/09 | 1h 14 mins.
    You're tweaking resume bullets at midnight and second-guessing every word whilst everyone else on LinkedIn seems to have the perfect career story. Here's the brutal truth: most PMMs never get real feedback on their resume, messaging, or career direction. We're all just guessing what hiring managers care about and whether our stories actually land. That guessing ends today as we kick off the PMM Summit Series with Yi Lin Pei, renowned PMM coach and career strategist who's helped over 300 PMMs get hired in as little as 30 days and get promoted within months.

    Yi Lin tackles the real conundrums keeping you stuck, starting with transforming your resume from boring task list into compelling movie trailer that makes hiring managers itch to learn more. We dissect real-world PMM resumes to uncover what actually works, then dive into listener challenges including Josh (drowning in tasks after team downsizing) and Elena (struggling to gain strategic recognition). Yi Lin reveals practical frameworks like the impact versus effort matrix for prioritization and the crucial transition from transactional PMM to partnership-focused strategist.

    We also analyse the messaging strategies of Gong and Outreach, breaking down how Gong positions as "operating system for revenue teams" whilst Outreach champions "AI revenue workflow." The segment reveals why strong, unique points of view matter more than feature lists and how both companies own distinct strategic positions. Yi Lin's insights prove that PMMs who advance think strategically about their own careers with the same rigour they apply to product launches.

    LINKS

    Resources:

    Product Marketing Resume Sample

    Guide to Enhancing the PMM+Sales Relationship

    Product Marketing Prioritization Process Newsletter

    Messaging Critique:

    Gong: https://www.gong.io/ 
    Outreach: https://www.outreach.io/ 

    Connect with Yi Lin: 

    LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/yilinpei 
    Website: https://www.courageous-careers.com/ 
    Connect with Elle:

    Website: www.productmarketingadventures.com  
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elle3izabeth/
  • Product Marketing Adventures

    Sell Your Vision like a Postman PMM

    2025/11/11 | 57 mins.
    You're leading a product marketing initiative you genuinely believe in, but every direction you turn, someone else is fighting for the same limited resources, stakeholder attention, and executive patience. If you don't sell your vision, your project gets cut or starved of support before it ever has a chance to shine. That's the reality for PMMs inside big organisations, where the work isn't just about go-to-market strategy but winning the time and space to actually do it right.
    John McKiernan joins us as a product marketing leader at Postman who previously led the launch for Jira Product Discovery, the fastest growing product in Atlassian's history. John shares how he's mastered internal buy-in using frameworks that simplify complexity, narratives that create emotional connection, and experimentation that builds credibility when everyone's fighting for limited resources.

    He reveals his strategy of treating internal projects like public product launches by giving them brands and compelling stories. John walks us through his Race Car Growth Framework that uses analogies like growth engines and turbo boosts to simplify complex strategies for executives. Central to this approach is genuine commitment to experimentation that builds trust with stakeholders who've been burned by overpromised initiatives before.

    We also critique the messaging of Lovable, an AI-powered software development platform that builds full-stack applications from natural language prompts. John spots opportunities to strengthen their narrative by aligning storytelling with measurable outcomes and integrating clear evidence of success that ties back to tangible business objectives.

    Key Takeaways: 
    • Treat internal initiatives like external product launches with brands and compelling narratives 
    • Use the Race Car Growth Framework to simplify complex strategies for executive audiences 
    • Build credibility through documented experimentation rather than gut-feel proposals 
    • Align product storytelling with measurable outcomes and stakeholder KPIs

    LINKS
    Lenny’s Racecar Growth Framework 

    Lovable (messaging critique):  https://lovable.dev/ 

    Connect with John: 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-mckiernan-1a6b2719/ 

    Connect with Elle:

    Website: www.productmarketingadventures.com  
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elle3izabeth/

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About Product Marketing Adventures

Product Marketing Adventures is the only PMM show that goes beyond theory and into the real execution of product marketing. In each episode, experienced product marketers co-host two segments of the show: first a case study example of their work, followed by a messaging critique of companies we admire. Listeners enjoy a fun conversation packed with practical guidance to leverage in your product marketing career.
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