Scaling Agencies That Convert: Tyler Pigott on Building Sales Systems That Drive Growth
2026/1/12 | 53 mins.
Tyler Pigott, Senior Director of Sales at StoryBrand and Co Founder at Agency Builders, joins the Pixel Perfect Podcast for a grounded conversation about what it really takes to scale an agency on purpose. Instead of relying on word of mouth or a few big wins, Tyler lays out how founders can move from hope driven pipelines to sales systems that consistently convert. Drawing on his experience leading sales teams and coaching agency owners, he shares how a clear vision, a defined why, and strong offers work together to create momentum that lasts instead of quick spikes that fade.Across the discussion, Tyler and Adam dig into the decisions that separate agencies that grow steadily from those that feel stuck. They explore how to shape offers that make it easy for clients to say yes, how messaging clarity shortens sales cycles, and when it is time to move beyond referrals and invest in a formal sales motion. Tyler breaks down the core components of a scalable sales system, from qualification and follow up to pricing, packaging, and the consultative behaviors that earn trust in every conversation.The episode also spends time on the human side of selling. Tyler talks about building sales teams that feel like advisors, not order takers, and how founders can define the metrics that actually matter for their stage of growth. He shares practical ideas for improving conversion quickly by tightening up a few key steps rather than overhauling everything at once. For agency leaders who want to grow in a way that feels aligned with their values, this conversation offers a practical playbook for clarifying vision, strengthening offers, and building sales systems that support both revenue and relationships.
Orchestration Over Ownership: Ivan Fernandes on Building Agencies That Last
2026/1/05 | 43 mins.
Ivan Fernandes, a globally recognized marketing management consultant and M&A advisor, delivers a reality check on where agencies stand as AI, consolidation, and client sophistication collide. In this conversation with Adam Weil, Ivan argues that most agency leaders aren't asking the hard questions soon enough. They're waiting to see where things land instead of paying attention to the signals happening right now, from how consulting firms are carving out transformation work to how tech platforms are absorbing media budgets. The expertise that built agencies over the past two decades won't be enough going forward. What matters now is orchestration, vertical integration, and building intellectual property that creates recurring value, not just billable hours.The discussion digs into what this transformation actually requires. Ivan makes the case for agencies to stop trying to own everything and instead become orchestrators who partner with specialists, connecting the right capabilities at the right time while building products and platforms that clients can buy independently of services. He walks through how vertical integration works in practice, not as a grand strategy requiring massive investment, but as a deliberate move to capture more of the value chain around what you already do well, whether that's adding content production to social campaigns or offering CRM integration alongside website builds. Throughout, Ivan emphasizes that smaller agencies have the advantage here because they can pivot faster, but only if they're willing to challenge their assumptions about what makes them valuable.Ivan also tackles the uncomfortable truths about valuation, positioning, and exit readiness. He calls out the gap between how agencies think they create value and how buyers or investors actually measure it, pointing to the need for clear IP, scalable systems, and ecosystems that function beyond founder dependency. His advice is grounded in decades of working across independent agencies, holding companies, and private equity, blended with a blunt assessment of what's broken in the current model. For agency leaders wrestling with how to future proof their business or prepare for growth, Ivan offers a clear eyed framework built on focus, partnerships, and the one question every founder should ask their clients: how can I help you get promoted?
Built to Change: How Modern Agencies Evolve in the Age of Intelligence
2025/12/03 | 54 mins.
In this episode, Adam Weil sits down with Carl Smith, Owner of The Bureau, to unpack how the agency model is shifting as AI becomes deeply embedded in the work clients expect. Carl shares why he believes the traditional expertise model is reaching its limit. With clients now tapping into the same tools and information as agencies, the real value is no longer about knowing what can be done. It is about guiding clients toward what they should do and knowing where AI falls short.The conversation explores what this evolution looks like in practice, from moving away from transactional deliverables to building true partnership models with shared KPIs, accountability based pricing, and long term collaboration. Carl challenges the idea that scale is the only path forward and outlines a future centered on smaller, highly specialized teams working closely with a handful of committed clients. Throughout the discussion, he highlights the human skills that matter more than ever like reading a room, earning trust, and knowing when to push back.Carl also digs into the operational side of this shift. He talks about treating business development as a relationship driven function rather than a volume play, the growing role of fractional leadership, and how marketplaces of specialized agencies can work together to support complex client needs. His perspective comes from hundreds of conversations within The Bureau community along with lessons from his own years running shops. For agency leaders navigating an AI saturated market, Carl offers a grounded path forward that centers on focus, collaboration, and the irreplaceable value of human judgment.
From Founder to Facilitator: Peter Kang on Scaling Agency Businesses with Purpose
2025/10/08 | 49 mins.
In this episode, Adam Weil sits down with Peter Kang, Co-founder of Barrel Holdings, to unpack the disciplined habits and systems that scale agency businesses for the long term. Peter dives deep into the philosophy that transformed his single agency, Barrel, into a thriving portfolio of seven specialized firms. He shares the framework behind his "Agency Habits," emphasizing that sustainable growth isn’t about heroic, one-time fixes but rather small, consistent actions that compound over time.The conversation explores the untapped potential of referral networks, with Peter outlining a strategic approach to cultivating relationships with former clients, investors, and even competitors to create a reliable stream of opportunities. He also offers a candid take on why so many agencies drop the ball, explaining the operational stresses that lead to subpar work and how to build systems that maintain quality even during rapid growth. For any agency owner feeling strapped for time, Peter provides a clear-eyed, actionable guide to focusing on what truly matters: building a durable business through discipline and genuine connection.Looking ahead, Peter shares his perspective on AI in the agency world, as a productivity enhancer best applied where it improves communication, operations, and client trust. For agency leaders, his message is clear: sustainable growth comes not from heroic one-off efforts, but from discipline, systems, and a relentless focus on relationships.
Finding Your Lane: John Harris on Scaling Independent Agencies Through Clarity, Collaboration, and Smart Growth
2025/8/26 | 40 mins.
In this episode, Adam Weil sits down with John Harris, President & CEO of Worldwide Partners, Inc., a global network of over 90 independent marketing agencies in 50+ countries. John shares his vantage point from working daily with agencies across continents and industries, offering a candid, optimistic view of the current agency landscape. They dive into what sets thriving agencies apart from those struggling to adapt, from having a crystal-clear positioning to maintaining an “always-on” marketing approach and investing consistently in their own brand.John makes a compelling case against the "spray and pray" approach to new business, advocating instead for a focused, marketing-led strategy built on deep expertise. He challenges agencies to find their niche and "pick a lane," arguing that specialization opens up more opportunities than it limits. The conversation also tackles AI, with John urging leaders to reframe it not just as a cost-cutting tool, but as a catalyst to reinvest in strategic value and evolve outdated, time-based pricing models. Ultimately, he provides a clear and actionable roadmap for independent agencies, highlighting why nimble, focused agencies are winning more business than ever.Throughout the discussion, John’s optimism shines as he reminds listeners that success hinges on clarity, consistency, and the courage to say "no" to misaligned opportunities. For agencies looking to finish the year strong, his advice is simple: double down on what you do best, focus on organic growth, nurture existing relationships, and lean into the collaborative power of independence.

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