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Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations

Kirsten W. Larson
Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations
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  • Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations

    Ep. 19 Getting Nonfiction Freelance Gigs with Aubre Andrus

    2026/02/06 | 31 mins.
    Work-for-Hire Author Shares How She Wrote 50+ Kids Books | Writing Career Tips & Publishing Paths

    Join award-winning author Aubre Andrus as she reveals how she built a thriving nonfiction writing career through work-for-hire publishing! With 50+ books for Scholastic, National Geographic Kids, American Girl, and more, Aubre shares insider tips on breaking into children's book publishing WITHOUT an agent.

    In this episode, you'll discover:

    What work-for-hire really means (and why it's more creative than you think)

     How to network with editors and land your first work-for-hire gig

    The skills publishers look for when hiring freelance authors  How to write fast without sacrificing quality

    Tips for self-publishing children's books (including what Aubre wishes she'd done differently)

    How work-for-hire can be an "author bootcamp" for your career

    Featured Books: • Chi Chi's Story (Scholastic) • America Celebrates (Quarto) • The Lookup Series (self-published STEM biographies) • Smart Girl's Guide series (American Girl)

    Perfect for: Children's book authors, nonfiction writers, freelance writers, aspiring authors, teachers, librarians, and anyone exploring alternative publishing paths.

    Connect with Aubre Andrus: Website: AubreAndrus.com

    Resources Mentioned: • Writing for the Educational Market by Laura Purdie Salas • Darcy Pattison's "Publish" (self-publishing guide) • SCBWI conferences

    [00:00:00] What Is Work-for-Hire? The Writing Prompt Approach

    [00:01:00] Real Examples: From Travel Guides to Quiz Books

    [00:03:00] Journey from Magazine Editor to 50+ Book Author

    [00:06:00] Breaking Down Work-for-Hire vs Traditional Publishing

    [00:09:00] Essential Skills for Landing Work-for-Hire Gigs

    [00:12:00] Networking Strategies & Getting Your Foot in the Door

    [00:15:00] Managing Tight Deadlines & Writing Fast

    [00:17:00] Research Strategies for Fast Nonfiction Writing

    [00:19:00] Why Self-Publish? The Lookup Series Story

    [00:22:00] Self-Publishing for Kids: Costs, Challenges & Kickstarter Tips

    [00:25:00] Choosing Your Publishing Path: Agent vs Work-for-Hire vs Self-Publishing

    [00:27:00] Writing to Market & What Makes Books Sell

    [00:29:00] Upcoming Books & Final Advice for Nonfiction Authors
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    Ep 18 The Art of YA Narrative Nonfiction with Deborah Heiligman

    2026/01/02 | 54 mins.
    Join host Kirsten W. Larson for a deep-dive craft conversation with award-winning nonfiction author Deborah Heiligman—known for Vincent and Theo, Charles and Emma, Torpedoed, and her newest YA biography, Loudmouth: Emma Goldman vs. America, A Love Story.

    In this episode of Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations, Deborah breaks down her entire narrative nonfiction process:

    • How she researches using primarily primary sources

    • How to build tension-packed scenes in nonfiction

    • Why young adult biography is about telling a story, not being a scholar

    • How she finds her mantra for each book

    • Why she starts her biographies in the middle

    • The surprising challenges of writing Loudmouth

    • What she hopes young readers take away from Emma Goldman’s story

    Whether you're writing children’s nonfiction, YA biography, narrative nonfiction, or simply love craft discussions with master writers, this episode is rich with insights you won’t want to miss. 📚

    Books discussed:

    • Loudmouth: Emma Goldman vs America, A Love Story

    • Vincent and Theo

    • Charles and Emma

    • Torpedoed

    • She Persisted: Clara Lemlich

    🔗 Learn more about Deborah Heiligman:
    deborahheiligman.com

    🔗 Learn more about host Kirsten W. Larson:
    kirstenwlarson.com

    00:00 – Welcome to Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations

    00:39 – Introducing Loudmouth & Why Emma Goldman

    02:04 – From Clara Lemlich to Emma Goldman

    03:51 – Who Was Emma Goldman?

    05:36 – Writing Biography: Hook, Theme & Mantra

    08:55 – Finding the Book’s Shape & Mantra

    11:45 – The Messy Process of Finding What a Book Is About

    13:29 – Deborah’s Research Process: Primary Sources First

    17:10 – When Secondary Sources Matter

    19:11 – Avoiding Bias & Forming Your Own Interpretation

    23:05 – When Research Turns Into Writing

    25:56 – Choosing Where to Start a Nonfiction Story

    27:57 – Building Mystery in Nonfiction Structure

    30:51 – Crafting Scenes in Narrative Nonfiction

    33:14 – When Research Contradicts Itself

    37:01 – Balancing Emotion, Fact, & Tension

    43:22 – Nonfiction Details: What You Can and Can’t Include

    45:45 – YA vs. Adult Nonfiction: What’s the Difference?

    49:34 – What She Hopes Readers Take Away

    50:16 – The Amazing Scene That Didn’t Make the Book

    52:30 – Where to Find Deborah Heiligman

    53:40 – Closing Thoughts & How to Support the Podcast

    Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q3KYjmcvyBGfeYBuTqY60dE8koU5eae8/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=111347193035867287487&rtpof=true&sd=true
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    Ep. 17 Traveling for Research with Sandhya Acharya

    2025/12/05 | 32 mins.
    How do you write an authentic story rooted in a real place and culture?

    In this episode of Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations, host Kirsten W. Larson talks with Sandhya Acharya, author of Living Bridges: The Hidden World of India’s Woven Trees, illustrated by Avani Dwivedi.

    Discover how Sandhya turned her immersive travel research in Meghalaya, India, into a stunning informational fiction picture book about the living root bridges made from ficus trees and tended by the Khasi people.

    You’ll learn:

    ✔️How a spark of inspiration led to years of research and discovery

    ✔️The role of immersive, on-the-ground research in shaping authentic children’s stories

    ✔️Ways to respectfully connect with experts and communities to ensure cultural accuracy

    ✔️How to balance fiction and nonfiction in informational picture books

    ✔️Tips for capturing sensory details and emotional impressions while in the field

     

    This conversation is a must-listen for children’s book authors, nonfiction writers, and educators seeking to bring rich, authentic details into their stories.

    📖 Living Bridges: The Hidden World of India’s Woven Trees is available wherever books are sold. Learn more on Sandhya's website. https://www.sandhyaacharya.com/

    🔗 Transcript, summary, and writing resources at Kirstenwlarson.com.

    Key moments:

    00:00 – Introduction: Living Bridges and Authentic Storytelling

    01:00 – Inspiration: A Spark from Bridges and Gratitude

    05:00 – Research from Afar: Falling Down the Rabbit Hole

    07:00 – From Nonfiction to Informational Fiction

    09:00 – Traveling to Meghalaya: Immersive Research in Action

    12:00 – Writing with All Five Senses

    15:00 – Cultural Authenticity and Community Collaboration

    18:00 – The Power of Fictional Elements in True Stories

    23:00 – Collaboration with Illustrator Avani Dwivedi

    27:00 – What’s Next for Sandhya
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    Ep. 16 - Writing Across Genres and Age Categories in Kid Lit

    2025/11/07 | 55 mins.
    🎙️ Episode 16: Writing Across Genres and Age Categories in KidLit

    How do successful children’s authors move seamlessly between board books, picture books, early readers, middle grade, and even books for adults—without losing their voice or audience?

    Host Kirsten W. Larson sits down with award-winning authors Marzieh Abbas (A Dupatta Is…, Yasmeen Lari: Green Architect, Aarzu All Around) and Valerie Bolling (Let’s Dance!, Ride Roll Run: Time for Fun!, A Flea for Justice, Goal Setting in the Writing Classroom) to discuss how they write “all the things.” You’ll hear how they:

    Balance fiction, nonfiction, and informational fiction

    Adjust craft for different age levels

    Use mentor texts to grow across forms

    Manage career focus and creative bandwidth

    Say yes to opportunities that expand their writing lives

    Perfect for children’s authors, teachers, and anyone curious about the creative and business sides of kidlit.

    🔗 https://marziehabbas.com/

    🔗 https://www.valeriebolling.com/

    📚 Learn more: kirstenwlarson.com | writers.kirstenwlarson.com

    00:00 Ep. 16 - Writing Across Genres and Age Categories in Kid Lit

    00:07 Title: Writing Across Genres and Age Categories in Kid Lit

    00:38 Chapter 1: Meet Our Guests

    01:55 Chapter 2: Exploring Different Forms of Writing

    09:53 Chapter 3: Craft Considerations Across Genres

    42:44 Chapter 4: Career Impact of Writing Across Genres

    50:39 Chapter 5: Future Writing Goals
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    15 Fostering a Love of ALL Kinds of Nonfiction with Melissa Stewart

    2025/10/17 | 47 mins.
    In this episode of the Nonfiction Kid Lit Craft Conversations podcast, host Kirsten W. Larson interviews award-winning nonfiction author Melissa Stewart. They discuss Stewart's five kinds of nonfiction classification system, its impact on writers, educators, and publishers, and the importance of expository nonfiction. Stewart shares insights on finding the perfect hook for manuscripts, how nonfiction authors connect emotionally with their topics, and how her research process shapes engaging books for young readers. They also spotlight Stewart's new book "From BAM! to BURP," including her initial inspiration during a school visit.

    00:00 Welcome to Nonfiction Kid Lit Craft Conversations

    00:17 Introducing Melissa Stewart and Her Work

    01:30 Exploring the Five Kinds of Nonfiction

    06:25 Impact on Educators, Librarians, and Publishers

    08:56 Addressing Misconceptions About Expository Literature

    13:39 Emotional Connection in Nonfiction Writing

    18:02 The Importance of a Strong Hook

    21:05 Finding the Perfect Hook: A Journey

    24:44 Staying Organized as a Prolific Author

    27:20 The Phases of Research

    28:40 Deciding What Stays and What Goes

    31:11 Introducing 'From BAM! to Burp!'

    31:47 The Hook and Approach for Complex Topics

    33:52 Personifying a Carbon Atom

    37:23 Trends in Children's Nonfiction

    40:58 Upcoming Book: Monarch and Mourning Cloak

    46:00 Final Thoughts and Advice for Writers

    46:29 Conclusion and Podcast Outro

    Find more resources on Melissa's website: https://melissa-stewart.com/

    Kirsten's website: https://kirstenwlarson.com/

    Support the podcast through our Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/shop/NonfictionKidlitPodcast

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About Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations

Ready to take a deep dive into the craft and business of nonfiction kidlit? In Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations, Kirsten W. Larson, author of ”Reimagining Your Nonfiction Picture Book,” chats with creators of nonfiction new releases about the craft and business of writing nonfiction for children and teens.
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