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    SpaceX's $75B IPO Comes With $1.2B in Bitcoin | CoinDesk Daily

    2026/06/12 | 1 mins.
    SpaceX's record-breaking IPO.

    SpaceX raised $75 billion in the largest IPO in history and began trading on Nasdaq today. The company holds 18,712 bitcoin worth roughly $1.2 billion, giving SPCX investors indirect BTC exposure. CoinDesk's Sam Ewen hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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    This episode was hosted by Sam Ewen. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.
  • CoinDesk Podcast Network

    Are Crypto Perpetuals Futures or Swaps? Kalshi vs. John Lothian

    2026/06/12 | 25 mins.
    CoinDesk's The Policy Protocol hosts Rebecca Rettig and Renato Mariotti unpack the CFTC's 267-page proposed rule-making around prediction markets and event contracts, plus the letter from crypto CEOs backing the BRCA. And, a debate between John Lothian and Udesh Jha, Head of Exchange Analytics at Kalshi, over whether crypto perpetuals are properly classified as futures or swaps.

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    Read more from Ari Redbord about the mixer indictment under 1956: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ari-redbord_in-the-midst-of-debate-around-clarity-activity-7470924721635794944-8yUy?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios&rcm=ACoAADHl20UBUd56sB8eTJ0w5gv3WIBQo2eJ6f0

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    Timecodes:

    00:00 Welcome to The Policy Protocol

    01:10 CFTC's 267-Page Prediction Markets Rule

    03:10 60+ CEOs Back the BRCA

    05:30 The Perpetuals Debate

    07:43 John Lothian's Case: Do Perpetuals Look Like Swaps?

    09:45 Kalshi's Udesh Jha on Funding Rates and Cost of Carry

    12:43 Would Swap Status Shut Out Retail?

    16:45 Is Kalshi Making the Rules Up?

    19:25 John's Closing: Market Manipulation Concerns

    20:46 Udesh's Closing: 'Regulation First'

    23:29 Person of the Week: State Regulators

    23:38 Illinois' Digital Asset Trading Tax

    24:20 NY DFS Aligns With Genius
  • CoinDesk Podcast Network

    Are Crypto Perpetuals Futures or Swaps? Kalshi vs. John Lothian

    2026/06/12
    CoinDesk's The Policy Protocol hosts Rebecca Rettig and Renato Mariotti unpack the CFTC's 267-page proposed rule-making around prediction markets and event contracts, plus the letter from crypto CEOs backing the BRCA. And, a debate between John Lothian and Udesh Jha, Head of Exchange Analytics at Kalshi, over whether crypto perpetuals are properly classified as futures or swaps.

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    Read more from Ari Redbord about the mixer indictment under 1956: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ari-redbord_in-the-midst-of-debate-around-clarity-activity-7470924721635794944-8yUy?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios&rcm=ACoAADHl20UBUd56sB8eTJ0w5gv3WIBQo2eJ6f0

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    Timecodes:

    00:00 Welcome to The Policy Protocol

    01:10 CFTC's 267-Page Prediction Markets Rule

    03:10 60+ CEOs Back the BRCA

    05:30 The Perpetuals Debate

    07:43 John Lothian's Case: Do Perpetuals Look Like Swaps?

    09:45 Kalshi's Udesh Jha on Funding Rates and Cost of Carry

    12:43 Would Swap Status Shut Out Retail?

    16:45 Is Kalshi Making the Rules Up?

    19:25 John's Closing: Market Manipulation Concerns

    20:46 Udesh's Closing: 'Regulation First'

    23:29 Person of the Week: State Regulators

    23:38 Illinois' Digital Asset Trading Tax

    24:20 NY DFS Aligns With Genius
  • CoinDesk Podcast Network

    Inside the Race to Fix Zcash's Shielded Pool Vulnerability | Markets Outlook

    2026/06/11 | 16 mins.
    The bug that tanked ZEC with Josh Swihart.

    On today's Markets Outlook, ZODL CEO Josh Swihart joins CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie to break down the Zcash vulnerability discovered with the help of AI, including how it was found, fixed, and what it means for the protocol's future. Plus, he weighs in on privacy coins vs. government pushback, formal verification as the new security standard, and why Zcash is more battle-hardened than ever.

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    Timecodes:

    00:00 - Zcash Bug Found by AI After Four Years

    03:26 - What Went Through Josh’s Mind When He Found Out

    04:47 - Could the Bug Have Been Exploited?

    05:47 - How the Bug Helps the Zcash Ecosystem

    07:27 - Zcash vs. Other Privacy Protocols

    09:54 - Will Governments Push Back on Privacy Coins?

    11:45 - Formal Verification and Finding Future Vulnerabilities

    14:08 - What Other Protocols Can Learn from This

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    Check out CoinDesk's latest episode of Public Keys from the NYSE: https://youtu.be/zn3D_adn6nI

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    Register now for CoinDesk’s Policy and Regulation event on September 24, 2026: ⁠https://policy-regulation.coindesk.com/⁠.

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    This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.
  • CoinDesk Podcast Network

    Saylor and Mallers Clash Over Strategy's Dilution | CoinDesk Daily

    2026/06/11 | 1 mins.
    Saylor and Mallers' debate at BTC Prague.

    Strategy executive chairman Michael Saylor and Twenty One Capital CEO Jack Mallers debated Strategy's capital structure at BTC Prague. Mallers challenged Saylor on dilution and how out-of-the-money convertible debt factors into mNAV calculations. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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    This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.
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