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BTC jumps 10% on the day after Trump's White House meeting with crypto CEOs.

Bitcoin climbed toward $72,000 after President Trump urged Congress to pass the Clarity Act at a White House crypto event. Treasury debt buybacks and a rally in crypto equities added fuel. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

With Bitcoin surging past $72K and showing signs of a broader breakout, 10x Research CEO and Founder Markus Thielen joins Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook to explain why he turned bullish early and why he believes the cycle low is already behind us. From Fed tailwinds and institutional flows to the key levels that could unlock a new all-time high, Markus breaks down what's driving the move. Plus, we look inside Symbiotic's partnership with Centrifuge to offer instant USDC liquidity.

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Timecodes:

00:00 - Markus Thielen Joins Markets Outlook

00:37 - Where Does Bitcoin End the Year?

02:02 - When Do We See a New ATH?

05:32 - Brand New Rails: Symbiotic x Centrifuge

08:44 - Is Bitcoin Still a Retail Product?

12:03 - $1 Million Bitcoin by 2030?

15:20 - On-Chain Signals to Watch Right Now

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This interview was recorded on August 19th before bitcoin's most recent rally.

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

John Wang, head of crypto at Kalshi, joins Sam just days after the company hit a $40 billion valuation and one year into John's tenure, which has seen prediction markets go from niche internet community to mainstream financial instrument. They cover the World Cup trading frenzy, why crypto is now the second largest market on the platform, and how Kalshi built the first CFTC-regulated perp exchange in the US from the ground up, doing $1 billion in its first week and $5 billion in its first month.
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Timecodes:

0:00 - Cold open on prediction markets going mainstream

0:25 - Introduction: John Wang, head of crypto at Kalshi

0:46 - Reflecting on Kalshi's growth over the past year

2:03 - Sports' economic impact and the Knicks/World Cup effect

3:24 - CLARITY Act, midterms hub, and regulatory unlocks

4:08 - Launching the first CFTC-regulated perp market

6:26 - Explosive early perps adoption (billion in week one)

7:55 - Risk tools: stop loss, take profit, and Kalshi Social

9:12 - Agentic trading and API-driven automation
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Anthropic beats OpenAI in Q2 revenue.

Anthropic more than doubled its revenue to $11.6 billion and posted a small operating profit, overtaking OpenAI for the first time. OpenAI's loss widened to $12.3 billion as it paused some frontier training over safety concerns. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

MSTR down 73% since last year.

Michael Saylor says a Strategy share buyback isn't a priority, but he'd consider it if MSTR trades at a deep enough discount to net asset value. The stock is down about 73% year-over-year as Strategy builds a $4.8 billion cash reserve. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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This episode was hosted by Uyen Truong. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.