CoinDesk Podcast Network

On this episode of CoinDesk's Public Keys from the New York Stock Exchange, host Jennifer Sanasie sits down with Michael Tannenbaum, CEO of Figure Technology Solutions, to unpack the company's record quarter, its self-described "Rule of 150," and why it sees blockchain as a standardization engine for capital markets.

Then, Lance Vitanza, Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at TD Cowen, explains why the 2026 digital asset treasury shakeout has clarified the model rather than broken it—and what separates the companies built to last from the rest.

Plus, Sid Coelho-Prabhu, Head of Coinbase Business, breaks down Coinbase's bet on AI agent payments, why stablecoins like USDC are emerging as the currency of agentic commerce, and how the x402 protocol could reshape the way businesses get paid.

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Chapters/Timecodes:

00:00 Welcome to Public Keys

00:20 Figure's Record Quarter and the "Rule of 150"

00:50 Figure CEO Michael Tannenbaum Joins

04:05 Figure as the "Fannie Mae of Blockchain"

06:44 Cutting Diligence Costs and Fighting Loan Fraud

08:10 Unlocking $35 Trillion in US Home Equity

09:57 Responding to the Morpheus Research Report

12:16 The Digital Asset Treasury Shakeout of 2026

12:55 TD Cowen's Lance Vitanza Joins

15:00 Why Strategy Is Built for a Bitcoin Bear Market

17:02 Strive, Smarter Web and Nakamoto in the Win Column

20:00 Treasury Companies vs. Spot Bitcoin ETFs

23:19 Coinbase Bets on Payments from AI Agents

23:41 Coinbase Business Head Sid Coelho-Prabhu Joins

24:45 How AI Agents Are Already Spending Money

27:03 Why Stablecoins Are Winning Agentic Payments

30:25 Inside the x402 Payment Protocol

32:06 What Still Needs Solving in Agentic Payments

Michael Saylor's war chest.

Strategy raised about $2 billion last week and created a new "USD Cash" pool, giving it $6.69 billion in dollar liquidity that can be used to buy more bitcoin, repurchase shares, or repay debt. The company left its 840,447 BTC untouched for a second straight week. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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This episode was hosted by Uyen Truong. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

Why is BTC ripping?

Bitcoin surged past $77,000 for its biggest weekly gain since March 2023. The rally isn't really about price — it's a reaction to a new U.S. Treasury bond-buyback plan that markets are reading as a step toward broader liquidity support. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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This episode was hosted by Uyen Truong. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

CoinDesk's The Policy Protocol hosts Rebecca Rettig and Renato Mariotti open on President Trump's White House remarks about bringing Hyperliquid onshore, then dig into Judge Vernon Oliver's Connecticut ruling that slammed the CFTC's emergency order in the Kalshi fight. Alexander Zozos, General Counsel of Superstate and a former SEC staffer, joins the hosts to break down what “Reg Crypto” actually does: two fundraising exemptions plus a safe harbor that acts as a "barbell" on when securities laws apply, solving crypto's "Hotel California" problem of checking in but never checking out. Plus, Rebecca and Renato debrief on whether the rule is a foundation or a window, and name crypto lawyers as their Person of the Week.

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Register now for CoinDesk's Policy and Regulation event on September 22, 2026: policy-regulation.coindesk.com.

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Chapters/Timecodes:

00:00 Welcome to The Policy Protocol

01:54 Hot Topic: Trump Talks Hyperliquid at the White House

04:36 Renato's Hot Topic: Kalshi, the CFTC, and Loper Bright

06:34 The SEC Drops Its 'Reg Crypto' Rulemaking

06:42 Alexander Zozos of Superstate Joins the Show

06:55 What Is Reg Crypto? The 30,000-Foot View

10:04 Foundation or Window? The Rogue Regulator Question

12:16 Inside the SEC: How a 400-Page Rule Gets Made

17:40 Does the Exit Ramp Depend on the CLARITY Act?

20:04 Rebecca and Renato Debrief

21:44 Person of the Week: Crypto Lawyers

BTC jumps 10% on the day after Trump's White House meeting with crypto CEOs.

Bitcoin climbed toward $72,000 after President Trump urged Congress to pass the Clarity Act at a White House crypto event. Treasury debt buybacks and a rally in crypto equities added fuel. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.