CoinDesk Podcast Network

CoinDesk's The Policy Protocol hosts Rebecca Rettig and Renato Mariotti unpack the CFTC's 267-page proposed rule-making around prediction markets and event contracts, plus the letter from crypto CEOs backing the BRCA. And, a debate between John Lothian and Udesh Jha, Head of Exchange Analytics at Kalshi, over whether crypto perpetuals are properly classified as futures or swaps.

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Read more from Ari Redbord about the mixer indictment under 1956: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ari-redbord_in-the-midst-of-debate-around-clarity-activity-7470924721635794944-8yUy?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios&rcm=ACoAADHl20UBUd56sB8eTJ0w5gv3WIBQo2eJ6f0

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Timecodes:

00:00 Welcome to The Policy Protocol

01:10 CFTC's 267-Page Prediction Markets Rule

03:10 60+ CEOs Back the BRCA

05:30 The Perpetuals Debate

07:43 John Lothian's Case: Do Perpetuals Look Like Swaps?

09:45 Kalshi's Udesh Jha on Funding Rates and Cost of Carry

12:43 Would Swap Status Shut Out Retail?

16:45 Is Kalshi Making the Rules Up?

19:25 John's Closing: Market Manipulation Concerns

20:46 Udesh's Closing: 'Regulation First'

23:29 Person of the Week: State Regulators

23:38 Illinois' Digital Asset Trading Tax

24:20 NY DFS Aligns With Genius

CoinDesk's The Policy Protocol hosts Rebecca Rettig and Renato Mariotti unpack the CFTC's 267-page proposed rule-making around prediction markets and event contracts, plus the letter from crypto CEOs backing the BRCA. And, a debate between John Lothian and Udesh Jha, Head of Exchange Analytics at Kalshi, over whether crypto perpetuals are properly classified as futures or swaps.

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Read more from Ari Redbord about the mixer indictment under 1956: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ari-redbord_in-the-midst-of-debate-around-clarity-activity-7470924721635794944-8yUy?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios&rcm=ACoAADHl20UBUd56sB8eTJ0w5gv3WIBQo2eJ6f0

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Timecodes:

00:00 Welcome to The Policy Protocol

01:10 CFTC's 267-Page Prediction Markets Rule

03:10 60+ CEOs Back the BRCA

05:30 The Perpetuals Debate

07:43 John Lothian's Case: Do Perpetuals Look Like Swaps?

09:45 Kalshi's Udesh Jha on Funding Rates and Cost of Carry

12:43 Would Swap Status Shut Out Retail?

16:45 Is Kalshi Making the Rules Up?

19:25 John's Closing: Market Manipulation Concerns

20:46 Udesh's Closing: 'Regulation First'

23:29 Person of the Week: State Regulators

23:38 Illinois' Digital Asset Trading Tax

24:20 NY DFS Aligns With Genius

The bug that tanked ZEC with Josh Swihart.

On today's Markets Outlook, ZODL CEO Josh Swihart joins CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie to break down the Zcash vulnerability discovered with the help of AI, including how it was found, fixed, and what it means for the protocol's future. Plus, he weighs in on privacy coins vs. government pushback, formal verification as the new security standard, and why Zcash is more battle-hardened than ever.

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Timecodes:

00:00 - Zcash Bug Found by AI After Four Years

03:26 - What Went Through Josh’s Mind When He Found Out

04:47 - Could the Bug Have Been Exploited?

05:47 - How the Bug Helps the Zcash Ecosystem

07:27 - Zcash vs. Other Privacy Protocols

09:54 - Will Governments Push Back on Privacy Coins?

11:45 - Formal Verification and Finding Future Vulnerabilities

14:08 - What Other Protocols Can Learn from This

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Check out CoinDesk's latest episode of Public Keys from the NYSE: https://youtu.be/zn3D_adn6nI

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Register now for CoinDesk’s Policy and Regulation event on September 24, 2026: ⁠https://policy-regulation.coindesk.com/⁠.

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

Saylor and Mallers' debate at BTC Prague.

Strategy executive chairman Michael Saylor and Twenty One Capital CEO Jack Mallers debated Strategy's capital structure at BTC Prague. Mallers challenged Saylor on dilution and how out-of-the-money convertible debt factors into mNAV calculations. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

SpaceX’s IPO is three times oversubscribed at $250 billion, and Hut 8 has closed a $4.25 billion, BBB-rated note for its Beacon Point AI data center.

Welcome back to The Blockspace Podcast! Reuters has reported that SpaceX’s IPO round could come in at $250 billion, a 3x oversubscription from the company’s planned $75 billion. Plus, Cormint CEO Jamie McAvity joins us to give an optimistic outlook on bitcoin mining with hashrate stagnant – even as hashprice flirts with all-time lows. For other news, we cover Keel’s $458 million convertible note; Hut 8’s $4.25 billion senior secured note for its Beacon Point data center, the second investment-grade bond for project-level financing for the burgeoning AI firm; Crusoe hitting pause on a proposed 10 GW data center in Wyoming; and OpenAI’s plans for its own 10 GW, $500 billion project in Ohio.

Check out our latest report, “What’s a Megawatt Worth?” where we quantify the trillion dollar opportunity for bitcoin miners venturing into the AI sector. 

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