CoinDesk Podcast Network

$7 trillion goes digital.

Amy Oldenburg, Morgan Stanley's Head of Digital Asset Strategy, breaks down how one of the world's largest wealth platforms is going all-in on crypto, from a Bitcoin ETF that crossed $200 million in just three weeks to spot crypto trading coming to their full advisory platform later this year. On the mainstage at CoinDesk’s Consensus, she makes the case that the TradFi vs. DeFi battle is over, and it's all just finance now.

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Timecodes:

00:00 - Amy Oldenburg at Consensus Miami 2026

00:47 - Morgan Stanley's Digital Asset Strategy

01:52 - The Bitcoin ETP Hits $200M in Three Weeks

05:21 - Morgan Stanley's Early Lead in Crypto Access

08:38 - Advisor Education When Clients Know More Than the Advisors

10:38 - What Comes Next: Tokenization and Redemptions

12:35 - The DeFi vs TradFi Battle

13:43 - A Decade-Long Project, Not a 2026 Project

Payment giants in stablecoin?

Stripe, Visa and Mastercard are close to launching a new stablecoin platform, with Coinbase considering joining. The total stablecoin market sits around $320 billion, dominated by Tether's USDT at $187 billion. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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This episode was hosted by Uyen Truong. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

Is big money choosing Solana?

Kyle Samani, co-founder of Forward, breaks down his latest deal on the main stage at Solana, a minority stake in Henri, a reinsurance RWA yielding 12-13%, funded by a Galaxy debt facility at 3.5%. He makes the case for why Solana has quietly become the dominant chain for institutional payments, tokenized equities, and real world assets. From Western Union and Visa to Meta and PayPal, the biggest names in finance are all building on the same rails. Plus, why he thinks most altcoins are bleeding out, Ethereum L2s are in trouble, and why this bear market might be the best investing opportunity in crypto right now.

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Timecodes:

00:00 - Kyle Samani at Consensus Miami 2026

02:08 - Bear Markets Are Where Winners Are Born

03:30 - Why Solana Is Winning Payments and RWAs

06:00 - DTCC's Tokenized Equities Pilot and SEC's Project Crypto

08:48 - Building a Market Maker With Claude Code

10:00 - Agentic Payments and the x402 Protocol

13:46 - Why Institutions Pick Public Chains Over Walled Gardens

15:43 - Why Solana: Gas, On-Ramps, Neutrality

17:21 - Are Ethereum L2s in Trouble?

Tom Lee says Strategy's BTC sale is "bottom behavior."

Bitmine's Tom Lee told CoinDesk that the record 11-day bitcoin ETF outflow streak and Strategy's first BTC sale since 2022 are just typical signs of a market bottom. CoinDesk's Sam Ewen hosts "CoinDesk Daily." 

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This episode was hosted by Sam Ewen. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

Diving deeper on AI with Gary Vaynerchuk.

Gary Vaynerchuk, Chairman of VaynerX and CEO and Creator of VeeFriends, joins Gen C to discuss why we are living through the most consequential technological moment since electricity. Sam and Gary dig into his long-held conviction that NFTs are a generational collectible, not a fad, his bold thesis that the rise of AI will trigger a massive IRL comeback, and why agentic commerce will make brands more important, not less.

Links mentioned from the podcast:
Gary’s Twitter: https://x.com/garyvee
Vayner Website: https://vaynerx.com/
VeeFriends Website: https://veefriends.com/

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"Gen C" features host Sam Ewen. Executive produced by Uyen Truong.