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  • #382 - Sponsor Spotlight - HYPR
    This episode is sponsored by HYPR. Visit hypr.com/idac to learn more.In this episode from Authenticate 2025, Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman are joined by Bojan Simic, Co-Founder and CEO of HYPR, for a sponsored discussion on the evolving landscape of identity and security.Bojan shares his journey from software engineer to cybersecurity leader and dives into the core mission of HYPR: providing fast, consistent, and secure identity controls that complement existing investments. The conversation explores the major themes from the conference, including the push for passkey adoption at scale and the challenge of securely authenticating AI agents.A key focus of the discussion is the concept of "Know Your Employee" (KYE) in a continuous manner, a critical strategy for today's remote and hybrid workforces. Bojan explains how the old paradigm of one-time verification is failing, especially in the face of sophisticated, AI-powered social engineering attacks like those used by Scattered Spider. They discuss the issue of "identity sprawl" across multiple IDPs and why consolidation isn't always the answer. Instead, Bojan advocates for a flexible, best-of-breed approach that provides a consistent authentication experience and leverages existing security tools.Connect with Bojan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bojansimic/Learn more about HYPR: https://www.hypr.com/idacConnect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.comChapter Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction at Authenticate 202500:23 - Sponsored Episode Welcome: Bojan Simic, CEO of HYPR01:11 - How Bojan Simic Got into Identity and Cybersecurity02:10 - The Elevator Pitch for HYPR04:03 - The Buzz at Authenticate 2025: Passkeys and Securing AI Agents05:29 - The Trend of Continuous "Know Your Employee" (KYE)07:33 - Is Your MFA Program Enough Anymore?09:44 - Hackers Don't Break In, They Log In: The Scattered Spider Threat11:19 - How AI is Scaling Social Engineering Attacks Globally13:08 - When a Breach Happens, Who's on the Hook? IT, Security, or HR?16:23 - What is the Right Solution for Identity Practitioners?17:05 - The Critical Role of Internal Marketing for Technology Adoption22:27 - The Problem with Identity Sprawl and the Fallacy of IDP Consolidation25:47 - When is it Time to Move On From Your Existing Identity Tools?28:16 - The Role of Document-Based Identity Verification in the Enterprise32:31 - What Makes HYPR's Approach Unique?35:33 - How Do You Measure the Success of an Identity Solution?36:39 - HYPR's Philosophy: Never Leave a User Stranded39:00 - Authentication as a Tier Zero, Always-On Capability40:05 - Is Identity Part of Your Disaster Recovery Plan?41:36 - From the Ring to the C-Suite: Bojan's Past as a Competitive Boxer47:03 - How to Learn More About HYPRKeywords:IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, Bojan Simic, HYPR, Passkeys, Know Your Employee, KYE, Continuous Identity, Identity Verification, Authenticate 2025, Phishing Resistant, Social Engineering, Scattered Spider, AI Security, Identity Sprawl, Passwordless Authentication, FIDO, MFA, IDP Consolidation, Zero Trust, Cybersecurity, IAM, Identity and Access Management, Enterprise Security
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  • #381 - Beyond Human: Taming the Wild West of Non-Human Identities with Steve Rennick
    In this episode, Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman are joined by Steve Rennick, Senior Leader for IAM Architecture at Ciena, for a wide-ranging discussion on the most pressing topics in identity today.The conversation kicks off with a practical look at vendor demos, sharing best practices for cutting through the slideware and getting to the heart of a product's capabilities. From there, they dive deep into the complex world of Non-Human Identities (NHI). Steve shares his practitioner's perspective on why NHIs are such a hot topic, the challenges of managing them, and the risks they pose when left unchecked.The discussion covers:Why traditional IAM approaches fail for non-human identities.The importance of visibility and creating a standardized process for NHI creation.The debate around terminology: NHI vs. machine identity vs. service accounts.The reasons for NHI's current prominence, including threat actors shifting focus away from MFA-protected human accounts.Practical, actionable advice for getting a handle on legacy service accounts.The emerging challenge of IAM for AI and the complexities of managing agentic AI.The critical role of authorization and the future of policy-based access control.Whether you're struggling with service account sprawl, preparing for an AI-driven future, or just want to run more effective vendor demos, this episode is packed with valuable insights.Connect with Steve: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-rennick/ARIA (Agent Relationship-Based Identity & Authorization) LinkedIn Post from Patrick Parker: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/patrickparker_ai-agent-authorization-activity-7335265428774031360-braE/Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.comCHAPTER TIMESTAMPS:00:00:10 - Introduction & The Art of the Vendor Demo00:08:02 - Steve Rennick's Take on Vendor Demos00:12:39 - Formal Introduction: Steve Rennick00:14:45 - Recapping the Identiverse Squabble Game Show00:17:22 - The Hot Topic of Non-Human Identities (NHI)00:22:22 - Is NHI a Joke or a Serious Framework?00:26:41 - The Controversy Around the Term "NHI"00:30:24 - How to Simplify NHI for Practitioners00:34:06 - First Steps for Getting a Handle on NHI00:37:20 - Can Active Directory Be a System of Record for NHI?00:45:08 - Why is NHI a Hot Topic Right Now?00:51:19 - The Challenge of Cleaning Up Legacy NHIs00:58:00 - IAM for AI: Managing a New Breed of Identity01:03:33 - The Future is Authorization01:06:22 - The Zero Standing Privilege Debate01:10:39 - Favorite Dinosaurs and OutroKEYWORDS:NHI, Non-Human Identity, Machine Identity, Service Accounts, Vendor Demos, IAM for AI, Agentic AI, Authorization, Zero Trust, Zero Standing Privilege, Secrets Management, IAM Strategy, Cybersecurity, Identity and Access Management, Steve Rennick, Ciena, IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald
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  • #380 - Unpacking Bias and AI in Identity Systems with Sebastian Rohr
    In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, Jim McDonald interviews Sebastian Rohr, the Chief Troublemaker at Umbrella Labs. They discuss the evolution of identity management, the challenges of digital identity, and the importance of national ID systems. Sebastian shares his personal journey into the identity field, the impact of digital identities on individuals, and the challenges faced in developing countries regarding identity verification. The conversation also touches on the role of AI in identity management, the importance of community in the identity space, and the cultural significance of German Unification Day.Connect with Sebastian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastianrohr/Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.comChapters00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction05:13 Sebastian's Origin Story in Identity11:00 The Evolution of Identity Verification15:24 Challenges in Identity Verification Technology20:13 The Importance of Birth Registration26:58 Real-World Stories from Identity Management32:30 Tips for Identity Practitioners35:22 Finding the Right Balance in Digital Transformation36:21 EUDI: The Future of Digital Identity40:02 Addressing Bias in Identity Systems44:11 The Impact of AI on Identity Management52:20 The Rise of Identity Beer: Community and Connection59:40 Celebrating German Unification DayKeywordsidentity, decentralized identity, digital identity, identity verification, national ID systems, AI in identity, identity management, global identity challenges, identity beer, German unification
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  • #379 - The Strategic Importance of Identity Security in Enterprises with Eve Maler
    In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Eve Maler, founder and CEO of Venn Factory joins host Jim McDonald. They discuss the significance of identity in the corporate world; detailing Eve's new book aimed at educating CEOs on the importance of treating identity as a strategic asset rather than mere infrastructure. They explore concepts like the evolving role of identity in security, the increasing risks posed by AI and cybersecurity threats, and the potential for organizational paralysis without proper identity management. Eve emphasizes the need for cross-functional focus and strategic ownership of identity functions within companies. The episode concludes with insights into public speaking and preparation, providing listeners with practical advice and industry insights.Connect with Eve: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evemaler/Chapters00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:32 The Story Behind 'Venn Factory'02:09 Eve Maler's Book for CEOs04:42 The Importance of Digital Identity10:53 AI and Its Impact on Executives17:25 Organizational Challenges in Identity Management23:49 The Role of Identity in Organizations24:44 Escaping Organizational Paralysis25:08 Valuing Identities in the Digital Age28:13 B2B Identity Dynamics35:21 The Rise of Identity Security42:32 Public Speaking Tips and Lighter NotesConnect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com
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  • #378 - Death and the Digital Estate (DADE)
    This episode of the Identity at the Center podcast delves into the complex topic of death and the digital estate (DADE). Jim McDonald hosts Dean Saxe, Heather Flanagan, and Mike Kiser, who discuss the importance of planning for digital assets after death, the cultural implications of digital identity, and the evolving role of technology in managing these assets. They emphasize the need for individuals to take proactive steps in documenting their digital estate and the challenges posed by varying legal frameworks and cultural perspectives. The conversation also touches on the future of digital identity in the age of AI and the ethical considerations surrounding it.Episode Links:Death and the Digital Estate (DADE) Community Group: https://openid.net/cg/death-and-the-digital-estate/Connect with Dean: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deanhsaxe/Connect with Heather: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hlflanagan/Connect with Mike: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-kiser/Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.comChapters00:00 Introduction to Identity at the Center Podcast00:10 Introduction to the Death and Digital Estate (DADE) group03:07 The Role of Identity in Digital Estates06:01 Understanding Digital Estate and Its Components09:09 Community Groups vs. Working Groups in Standards11:59 The Importance of Digital Estate Management15:09 Cultural Perspectives on Digital Death18:12 Legal and Ethical Considerations in Digital Estates20:59 Future of Digital Estate Planning24:03 Conclusion and Call to Action31:33 Cultural Frameworks and Digital Estates35:12 The Importance of Protocols in Digital Estate Management39:30 Navigating Digital Wills and Estate Planning42:19 Challenges in Digital Recovery and Access45:18 Actionable Steps for Digital Estate Planning48:52 Personal Reflections on Digital Legacy50:57 The Future of Digital Remembrance54:25 Final Thoughts and Community EngagementKeywordsdigital estate, death, identity management, OpenID Foundation, digital assets, cultural perspectives, technology, legal considerations, AI, planning guide
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Identity at the Center is a weekly podcast all about identity security in the context of identity and access management (IAM). With decades of real-world IAM experience, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman bring you conversations with news, topics, and guests from the identity management industry. Do you know who has access to what?
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