Growing Interest with Mary Holland Nader

As the co-founder and CEO of Good American, founding partner of SKIMS, and one of the most successful self-made women in business, Emma Grede has built an empire. But she didn't come from money, didn't finish college, and wasn't always comfortable with numbers.

In this episode of Growing Interest, Mary Holland Nader sits down with Emma to explore the money mindset shifts behind her success—and what the rest of us can learn from them.

They get into the psychology of money, from emotional spending and overcoming a fear of numbers to negotiating for more, knowing your worth, and understanding when to prioritize ownership over a paycheck. Emma also opens up about navigating money in friendships, relationships, and business, and why women need to stop apologizing for wanting more.

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We spend a lot of time talking about how to build wealth. But how do you protect it? This week, Mary sits down with Caitlin Sarian, better known as Cybersecurity Girl, to find out what hackers and scammers know about us that we don’t, and the everyday habits that could be making our money easier to steal.

After nearly a decade working behind the scenes in cybersecurity, including leading Global Cybersecurity Advocacy and Culture at TikTok, Caitlin has seen how people actually get hacked, what makes someone an easy target, and why the stereotype that scams only happen to older people could be making the rest of us more vulnerable.

Caitlin breaks down:

- the money scams she’s seeing right now

- the “harmless” online behaviors hackers love

- whether it’s safe to give AI your financial information

Plus, she gives Mary Holland her 60-second cybersecurity checklist and reveals the changes she’s made in her own life after spending years around some of the smartest hackers in the world.

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What happens when your sister is also your roommate, business partner—and the person you split the money with?

Jean and Cherie Luo, better known as the Tiger Sisters, walked away from careers at Goldman Sachs, Snap, and LinkedIn to bet on themselves. Since then, they’ve built one of the biggest business podcasts on Spotify, launched Sisters Matcha, and say they became self-made millionaires before turning 26.

But Mary Holland wants to know what happens behind the numbers.

Jean and Cherie get candid about:

- how they actually split money and equity as sisters

- whether everything is really 50/50

- putting their own money into their businesses

- what happens when one sister brings in a deal.

They also break down the very different goals of starting their media company versus matcha business, whether four Ivy League degrees were worth the price tag, and the moment they actually started to feel rich.

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Vivian Tu, aka CEO and Founder of Your Rich BFF and Ask Dolly (which you can find here: askdolly.com/MHN), has built a career telling millions of people what to do with their money. But building wealth is only half the story. What happens to it when you're gone?

Vivian joins Mary Holland to talk about the money decisions most of us would rather avoid: when you actually need a will, who needs a trust, what happens to your money if you die without a plan, and whether you can really control how your family spends an inheritance from beyond the grave.

She also gets candid about her own money journey - from translating bills for her immigrant parents and trading stocks at J.P. Morgan to becoming BuzzFeed's top salesperson, and leaving corporate America to build Your Rich BFF.

Vivian and Mary get into:

- The financial calculation Vivian made before quitting her corporate job

- The financial advice Vivian has trouble following herself

- Who really needs a will—and how early you should get one

- Whether you need to be rich to have a trust fund

- The wild things people can put into an inheritance

- How wealthy families protect money for future generations

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Jason Tartick has lived a few very different financial lives: corporate banker, reality TV personality, entrepreneur, investor, author, podcast host, and creator. He’s become known for breaking the taboo around money—asking the questions most people are afraid to ask and bringing radical transparency to conversations about how we earn, spend, invest, and build wealth.

Now, Jason joins Mary Holland with the mic turned on him, getting candid about his own money habits, career pivots, investments, and relationships.

They get into:- What it was really like leaving the security and credibility of banking for The Bachelorette- How his relationship with money has changed as his career—and income—have evolved- The business behind his talent agency and how he makes money from it- How he thinks about buzzy investments like AI and crypto- How early you should start talking about money with someone you're dating- The financial red flags to look out for in a relationship

From career pivots and investing to salaries, relationships, and the money conversations we’d rather avoid, this episode is a reminder that financial transparency isn’t about having all the right answers—it’s about being willing to ask the right questions.

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DISCLOSURE: This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute investment, financial, legal, or tax advice. All investing involves risk, including loss of principal. Guests and the host may own securities discussed on this show, and nothing said here is a recommendation to buy or sell any security. Always do your own research and consult a licensed financial advisor before making financial decisions. This podcast is not produced, reviewed, or endorsed by Mary & Pip Investments LLC, a registered investment advisor, nor its affiliates. Nothing said here reflects the views, advice, or services of that firm.
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