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This Is A Voice

Jeremy Fisher and Dr Gillyanne Kayes
This Is A Voice
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  • This Is A Voice

    When A Song Doesn't Land - What to look for and how to fix it

    2025/12/12 | 38 mins.
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    Most singers can learn the notes and the words. That isn’t the part that gets in the way. The real block sits under the surface. It’s the moment where the song should land and somehow doesn’t. You can feel it. The audience can feel it. Something is missing.

    In this episode, we dig into that missing piece
    How singers learn songs too fast
    How the ear follows the recording but not the key
    How interpretation can be lovely but still empty
    And how inhabiting a song changes everything

    We talk through the internal logic sitting inside every piece of music
    The logic of the harmony
    The logic of the text
    The tiny decision points singers often sail past without noticing
    The moments of energy change, tempo change, key change, and emotional shift that carry the story

    There are real examples from our masterclasses, including:
    A classical song that suddenly locked into tune once the chords were stripped back.
    A singer who delivered a perfect interpretation but didn’t sound like himself until we dug for his version of the truth.
    A musical theatre song that revealed its turning point in the silence between phrases.

    00:00 Why your song isn't landing
    01:24 A shift in vocal technique
    03:32 Being honest about your background
    05:17 Helping a singer with tuning
    08:39 Learning the song but not the key
    10:15 Change points help you map the song
    11:23 Do you memorise too quickly?
    12:23 The Speed Run and other techniques
    13:40 Acting without acting training
    16:14 Green Finch and Linnet Bird
    19:23 Not For The Life Of Me - Hidden in the text
    21:47 Gimme Gimme - When ARE decisions made?
    24:03 I Remember Sondheim
    25:54 I Don't Sound Like Me!
    30:30 Interpretation versus Inhabitation
    35:06 The "studio-perfect" voice myth
    37:44 This is our context, what's yours?

    If you teach singers, this episode gives you tools to diagnose why a performance isn’t landing.
    If you’re a singer, it shows you how to slow down, listen differently, and find the place where your voice actually sits inside the song.

    Tell us how you approach learning or teaching songs.
    What do you notice, break down, strip back, or question?
    We’d love to hear it.

    I Cain't Say No (Oklahoma) analysed by FlyNorthTheatricals https://www.tiktok.com/@flynorththeatricals/video/7566630322780081439

    Remember to like and subscribe for more insightful episodes. Leave a comment below on what inspired you the most! 👇

    You can find out about our Teacher Accreditation for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders and start your own journey here 
    https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

    We've also got this ↓ 

    For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson. 
    Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/
     
    If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort26. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme 

    Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating 
    Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251 
    Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB  
     
    Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS 
     
    Find us - follow us on the socials! 
    🐦 Twitter - https://twitter.com/Vocalprocess   
    📸 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/vocalprocess  
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  • This Is A Voice

    A Million Downloads - Then Burnout Hit. With Dr Marisa Lee Naismith

    2025/11/11 | 36 mins.
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    Burnout can creep up quietly - until one day you realise you’ve got nothing left to give.

    In this honest, wide-ranging conversation, Dr Gillyanne Kayes, Jeremy Fisher and guest Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (host of A Voice and Beyond) talk about burnout in the performing arts: how it happens, what it feels like, and what recovery really takes.

    We explore:

    The link between trauma, stress, and burnout

    Boundaries and learning to say “I don’t have the capacity”

    Why people-pleasing drives exhaustion

    The real brain changes in burnout and how to reset

    What it means to honour yourself as a creative

    This episode includes insights from Stress Burnout Reset by Kerry Norton, reflections on somatic recovery, and practical tools for singers and teachers finding their way back to balance.

    00:00 Intro and Phlegm Alert
    02:10 When Burnout Creeps Up On You
    03:23 Losing Everything and Working Harder
    05:39 Adversity vs Trauma
    07:53 Burnout in the Performing Arts
    08:41 Self-Worth and People-Pleasing
    11:11 Learning To Say No And Setting Boundaries
    15:19 The 24-7 Access Problem
    19:28 The Power Of Saying "I Don't Have The Capacity"
    22:07 What Burnout Does To The Brain
    25:25 Recovery Tools and Somatic Practices
    33:45 Maria's Final Reflections - Honouring Yourself

    Watch, reflect, and share your experience of burnout in the comments.

    Remember to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon for more insightful episodes. Leave a comment below on what inspired you the most! 👇

    You can find out about our Teacher Accreditation for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders and start your own journey here 
    https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

    We've also got this ↓ 

    For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson. 
    Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/
     
    If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort26. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme 

    Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating 
    Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251 
    Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB  
     
    Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS 
     
    Find us - follow us on the socials! 
    🐦 Twitter - https://twitter.com/Vocalprocess   
    📸 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/vocalprocess  
    📖 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/vocalprocess

     #vocalprocess #teacheraccreditation #voicetraining
  • This Is A Voice

    Student Burnout, Time Poverty & The Perfectionism Trap. With Dr Ayan Panja & Richard Delaney

    2025/10/28 | 28 mins.
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    If you’ve ever felt exhausted, cynical or “not good enough,” this episode will help you spot the signs, set boundaries and start recovering - without guilt.
    What really causes burnout in musicians, singers, teachers, and students?
    In this second episode of This Is A Voice on burnout, Dr. Gillyanne Kayes and Jeremy Fisher discuss the physical, emotional, and systemic roots of burnout - with two special guests offering different perspectives.

    Dr Ayan Panja (NHS GP, Saving Lives In Slow Motion podcast) explains why burnout isn’t just “being tired” - and what really happens when empathy and perfectionism collide.

    Richard Delaney (Programme Leader, BA Hons Acting: Contemporary and Devised at Royal Central School of Speech & Drama) reveals how time poverty and constant assessment are burning out a generation of creative students.

    Plus, Gillyanne and Jeremy share their own stories of freelance burnout, people-pleasing and finding balance as performers and coaches.

    Listen now and share it with a friend who might need it.
    Featuring clips from Saving Lives In Slow Motion (used with permission).

    You can find out about Ayan's work and join his podcast on https://drayan.co.uk/

    You can find out about Richard's work on https://www.richardddelaney.com/

    Remember to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon for more insightful episodes. Leave a comment below on what inspired you the most! 👇

    You can find out about our Teacher Accreditation for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders and start your own journey here 
    https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

    We've also got this ↓ 

    For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson. 
    Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/
     
    If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort26. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme 

    Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating 
    Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251 
    Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB  
     
    Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS 
     
    Find us - follow us on the socials! 
    🐦 Twitter - https://twitter.com/Vocalprocess   
    📸 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/vocalprocess  
    📖 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/vocalprocess

    #vocalprocess #teacheraccreditation #voicetraining
  • This Is A Voice

    From Exhaustion to Recovery - Our Burnout Stories, with guest Franka van Essen

    2025/10/14 | 32 mins.
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    Burnout isn’t just “being tired.” For many musicians, singers, and creatives, it creeps in quietly until suddenly you can’t think clearly, you can’t create, and you feel stuck in cycles of exhaustion.

    In Season 12 Episode 1 of This Is A Voice, Jeremy Fisher and Dr. Gillyanne Kayes open up about their own experience with burnout, how it affected their work and creativity, and what they did to recover. 

    They’re joined by singer and coach Franka van Essen, who explains burnout through the lens of Polyvagal Theory - and why creatives often toggle between burnout, boredom and overdrive.

    We talk about:

    The real signs of burnout (that you might be ignoring)

    Why freelancing makes burnout more likely

    How Polyvagal Theory can help you recognise the “zones” you live in

    Practical ways to step back into rest, creativity, and connection

    If you’ve ever felt exhausted, disconnected, or wondered “is this burnout?”, this episode will help you recognise it - and give you hope that you can recover.
    #burnout #singerburnout #polyvagaltheory  #musicianmentalhealth #vocalcoach  #singingteacher 
     
    00:00 Mood swings and despair
    01:19 What burnout looks like
    02:56 Measuring burnout
    05:21 Jeremy’s change of behaviour
    07:12 Franka on how burnout can start
    09:19 Singing teachers and burnout
    12:16 Musicians and task switching
    13:49 Polyvagal theory and the zones
    17:10 Toggling between the zones
    19:01 Compassion fatigue
    22:25 Household boundaries
    25:08 A plate of raspberry puddings
    25:44 Getting back in the green zone
    28:44 Learning to say no
    You can contact Franka van Essen on 
    http://www.voice2blossom.nl/
    Instagram and Facebook voice2blossom
    LinkedIn Franka van Essen

    And Franka’s short course on Polyvagal Theory for singers, teachers and coaches is included in our monthly Learning Lounge membership here 
    https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/

    Remember to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon for more insightful episodes. Leave a comment below on what inspired you the most! 👇

    You can find out about our Teacher Accreditation for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders and start your own journey here 
    https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

    We've also got this ↓ 

    For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson. 
    Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/
     
    If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort26. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme 

    Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating 
    Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251 
    Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB  
     
    Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS 
     
    Find us - follow us on the socials! 
    🐦 Twitter - https://twitter.com/Vocalprocess   
    📸 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/vocalprocess  
    📖 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/vocalprocess

     #vocalprocess #teacheraccreditation #voicetraining
  • This Is A Voice

    Stop Chasing Perfection - Start Singing For Connection. With Melissa Forbes

    2025/8/26 | 26 mins.
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    What does it take to be an effective singing leader? 
    Why is community music is so vital for social health? 
    How can positivity counteract our innate negativity bias?
    In this powerful follow-up with Dr Melissa Forbes, we talk about how singing transforms lives far beyond the stage. From rethinking the deficit mindset of traditional music training to leading groups for people with Parkinson’s, Melissa challenges us to see singing through a new lens: 
    Connection, not perfection.

    Whether you're a singer, teacher, coach, or someone who just loves voices, this episode will shift how you think about music, leadership and human connection.
    #musicleadership #positivity #mentalhealth 
    00:00 The singing skill no-one talks about
    05:09 Performative versus Experiential music
    07:28 What makes a great singing leader?
    09:52 Singing for health and Parkinson’s choirs
    15:02 A moving story about the power of choirs
    19:04 Negativity bias & deficit mindset in music training
    22:36 Helping people see beyond their limitations
    24:46 Melissa’s three-word mantra

    Remember to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon for more insightful episodes. Leave a comment below on what inspired you the most! 

    You can find out about our Teacher Accreditation for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders and start your own journey here 
    https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

    We've also got this ↓ 

    For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson. 
    Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/
     
    If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, book a Discovery Call with Gillyanne here https://DrGillyanneKayesJeremyFisherInspirationSession.as.me/ACCREDITATIONCHAT

    Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating 
    Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251 
    Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB  
     
    Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS 
     
    Find us - follow us on the @VocalProcess socials! 

     #vocalprocess #teacheraccreditation #voicetraining

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About This Is A Voice

Voice experts and bestselling authors Dr Gillyanne Kayes and Jeremy Fisher have been chatting about voice for more than 20 years - this time they've switched the microphone on. Vocal technique? check. Musicals? check. The weird things you can do with your voice? check. Includes AMA on voice, singing, speaking, performance techniques, voice exercises and so much more.
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