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This Is A Voice

Jeremy Fisher and Dr Gillyanne Kayes
This Is A Voice
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  • This Is A Voice

    When Singers Thrive. Michelle Robinson on Motivation, Teaching and Wellbeing in the Voice Studio

    2026/03/24 | 28 mins.
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    In this episode of This Is A Voice, Jeremy Fisher and Dr Gillyanne Kayes welcome back psychologist Michelle Robinson for a deeper conversation about the singer-teacher relationship, motivation, wellbeing, and what voice training can learn from sport psychology.

    Michelle introduces Self-Determination Theory, breaking down the three psychological needs that help people flourish: autonomy, competence and relatedness. Michelle, Gillyanne and Jeremy explore how these ideas apply to singers, teachers, performance and the learning environment.

    The episode also highlights:
    *  why external validation never really lasts
    * how teaching can support both artistry and wellbeing
    * the difference between performing “correctly” and performing authentically
    * what classical music training can learn from more person-centred approaches
    * Michelle’s own distressing experience of music college, and how difficult teaching relationships can leave a lasting mark
    * her research into singer-teacher relationships, including a new questionnaire designed to measure closeness, commitment and complementarity
    * why musicians deserve the more holistic support that athletes often receive

    This is an honest, thoughtful episode about voice, identity, teaching and the kind of support that helps artists thrive.

    Remember to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon for more insightful episodes. Leave a comment below on what inspired you the most! 👇

    You can find out about our Teacher Accreditation for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders and start your own journey here 
    https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

    We've also got this ↓ 

    For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson. 
    Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/
     
    If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort26. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme 

    Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating 
    Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251 
    Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB  
     
    Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS 
     
    Find us - follow us on the socials! 
    🐦 Twitter - https://twitter.com/Vocalprocess   
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     #vocalprocess #teacheraccreditation #voicetraining
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    Why some singing lessons change your life and others break you

    2026/03/10 | 37 mins.
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    What if the teacher-student relationship in a singing lesson is not just the backdrop to vocal training, but the engine that shapes confidence, motivation, wellbeing and even performance anxiety?

    In Season 12 Episode 7 of This Is A Voice, we’re joined by Michelle Robinson (singer, psychologist and researcher) to explore what the research says about relationship quality in one-to-one music teaching, and why it can determine whether learning feels safe and survivable, or tense and threatening.

    We talk about:
    Why the teacher–student relationship is mutually influential (it’s not one-way)
    The three core ingredients of healthy learning relationships: Closeness, Commitment, Complementarity
    How relationship quality links to motivation, autonomy, and wellbeing
    The master–apprentice tradition, where it helps, where it can harm
    What “good teaching” looks like in micro-behaviours, not slogans
    Repairing ruptures, rebuilding trust, and creating studios where singers can truly sound like themselves

    This one is for singers, vocal coaches, singing teachers, choral directors and people who cares about high standards without fear-based training.
    00:00 – Why relationships matters more than we admit
    01:34 – Meet Michelle: singer → psychologist → researcher
    06:37 – “The relationship is mutually interdependent”, what that really means
    08:26 – What does the teacher need?
    10:48 – Jeremy’s hard lesson about different energies
    17:51 – TWO humans in the room
    24:30 – The 3 pillars: closeness, commitment, complementarity
    29:02 – When “closeness” becomes unhealthy (blurred boundaries)
    31:34 – IS there an inherent power dynamic?
    33:09 – Students and safeguarding

    👍 If you found this helpful, hit like, subscribe and share it with a teacher or singer who needs to hear it. Leave a comment below on what inspired you the most!

    #singing #vocalcoach #voiceteacher #performinganxiety #musiceducation #psychology

    You can find out about our Teacher Accreditation for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders and start your own journey here 
    https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

    We've also got this ↓ 

    For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson. 
    Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/
     
    If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort26. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme 

    Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating 
    Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251 
    Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB  
     
    Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS 
     
    Find us - follow us on the socials! 
    🐦 Twitter - https://twitter.com/Vocalprocess   
    📸 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/vocalprocess  
    📖 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/vocalprocess

     #vocalprocess #teacheraccreditation #voicetraining
  • This Is A Voice

    Singer Interrupted - Love Singing & Hate Performing - here's why that matters

    2026/02/10 | 30 mins.
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    In this episode of This Is A Voice (S12 Ep6), Jeremy Fisher and Dr Gillyanne Kayes continue the story from “The Secret Singer” (Ep5) and go deeper into what happens when a singer’s path gets interrupted.

    Gillyanne shares what came after stopping singing in her late 20s, how she rebuilt confidence (slowly and with care), and why her “happy ending” wasn’t about chasing the stage again. We talk identity, grief, agency and the surprisingly liberating idea that loving singing doesn’t require loving performance.

    Then we zoom out into the bigger picture, how singing skills transfer into teaching, leadership, presenting, training and research. Plus, we unpack the difference between rehearsal and performance as totally different nervous system tasks, and why connection with the audience can change everything.

    If you’re a singer, teacher, vocal coach, choir leader, or anyone who’s ever felt like you need to “prove” your voice, this one’s for you.

    Chapters

    00:00 “Singer Interrupted”
    01:14 The happy ending (and the grief)
    02:45 Returning to singing, rebuilding confidence, technique + agility
    05:12 Seven years off singing, and why that can still lead somewhere good
    06:15 “Performing spoils my day/week”, permission to redefine success
    08:22 Singing identity vs public performance
    10:45 What would your happy ending be if you didn’t have to prove anything?
    12:19 Teaching, training, presenting, research, performance changes shape
    16:47 Connection with the audience, social engagement, polyvagal lens
    18:24 Transferable skills singers forget they have
    20:04 Rehearsal vs performance, what the audience changes
    24:09 Starting from your real emotion, plus “it’s OK to be crap for 10 minutes”
    28:37 Nervous system expectations in performance, what helps

    Mentioned:
    Melissa Forbes, Stop Chasing Perfection, Start Singing for Connection (This Is A Voice Season 11, Ep13 https://youtu.be/r5-Lq4ithDc

    Safe Space 2 - Polyvagal Theory for Performance - our new online course with Franka van Essen
    https://vocal-process-hub.teachable.com/p/safe-space-2-polyvagal-theory-for-performance-with-franka-van-essen

    The Master-Apprentice survey - please fill in this survey (10-20 mins)
    https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/Master-Apprentice-Model-In-Singing-Teaching
     

    If this episode resonates, drop a comment, what part hit home for you? And tell us, where do you “perform” even when you’re not on a stage?

    Remember to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon for more insightful episodes. Leave a comment below on what inspired you the most! 👇

    You can find out about our Teacher Accreditation for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders and start your own journey here 
    https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

    We've also got this ↓ 

    For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson. 
    Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/
     
    If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort26. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme 

    Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating 
    Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251 
    Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB  
     
    Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS 
     
    Find us - follow us on the socials! 
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    The "Not Good Enough" story and the recording never played - special guest episode

    2026/01/27 | 41 mins.
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    In this episode of our This Is A Voice podcast, we do something we've never done before.

    We have a “special guest”, not in the studio but on a recording, one that hasn't been played for more than 40 years. You'll have to listen to the first few minutes to discover who the special guest is!

    This conversation goes straight into the stuff singers quietly carry:
    The feeling that “good enough” is a place you never reach.
    How training can install a deficit narrative.
    Why the master-apprentice model can turn learning into permission-seeking.
    How confidence regresses when the teacher-student dynamic isn’t handled with care.

    There’s also a very practical tangent Gillyanne and I both care about.
    If you never sing music with scales written in them, stop treating scales like the goal. Build exercises from the repertoire you actually perform. Stop singing scales, start practising riffs!

    We close the episode with a second archival excerpt. Same “special guest”. Same question underneath it all.
    What would change if you stopped auditioning for permission, and started making music from ownership?

    ***Apologies for the slightly variable sound quality, our microphones weren't working properly***

    Credits
    Archival excerpt 1, Handel (German aria excerpt “Meine Seele hört im Sehen”)

    Archival excerpt 2, Mozart (Concert Aria K490, "Non temer, amato bene")

    Special guest singer: ???
    Violin: Penelope Wayne Shapiro
    Piano: Jamie Clarke
    Recorded 1983

    Master-Apprentice Survey link: https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/Master-Apprentice-Model-In-Singing-Teaching

    The Birmingham Vocal Coach blog on Rethinking Vocal Coaching https://www.thebirminghamvocalcoach.co.uk/blog

    Remember to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon for more insightful episodes. Leave a comment below on what inspired you the most! 👇

    You can find out about our Teacher Accreditation for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders and start your own journey here 
    https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

    We've also got this ↓ 

    For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson. 
    Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/
     
    If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort26. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme 

    Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating 
    Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251 
    Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB  
     
    Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS 
     
    Find us - follow us on the socials! 
    🐦 Twitter - https://twitter.com/Vocalprocess   
    📸 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/vocalprocess  
    📖 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/vocalprocess

     #vocalprocess #teacheraccreditation #voicetraining
  • This Is A Voice

    When A Song Doesn't Land - What to look for and how to fix it

    2025/12/12 | 38 mins.
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    Most singers can learn the notes and the words. That isn’t the part that gets in the way. The real block sits under the surface. It’s the moment where the song should land and somehow doesn’t. You can feel it. The audience can feel it. Something is missing.

    In this episode, we dig into that missing piece
    How singers learn songs too fast
    How the ear follows the recording but not the key
    How interpretation can be lovely but still empty
    And how inhabiting a song changes everything

    We talk through the internal logic sitting inside every piece of music
    The logic of the harmony
    The logic of the text
    The tiny decision points singers often sail past without noticing
    The moments of energy change, tempo change, key change, and emotional shift that carry the story

    There are real examples from our masterclasses, including:
    A classical song that suddenly locked into tune once the chords were stripped back.
    A singer who delivered a perfect interpretation but didn’t sound like himself until we dug for his version of the truth.
    A musical theatre song that revealed its turning point in the silence between phrases.

    00:00 Why your song isn't landing
    01:24 A shift in vocal technique
    03:32 Being honest about your background
    05:17 Helping a singer with tuning
    08:39 Learning the song but not the key
    10:15 Change points help you map the song
    11:23 Do you memorise too quickly?
    12:23 The Speed Run and other techniques
    13:40 Acting without acting training
    16:14 Green Finch and Linnet Bird
    19:23 Not For The Life Of Me - Hidden in the text
    21:47 Gimme Gimme - When ARE decisions made?
    24:03 I Remember Sondheim
    25:54 I Don't Sound Like Me!
    30:30 Interpretation versus Inhabitation
    35:06 The "studio-perfect" voice myth
    37:44 This is our context, what's yours?

    If you teach singers, this episode gives you tools to diagnose why a performance isn’t landing.
    If you’re a singer, it shows you how to slow down, listen differently, and find the place where your voice actually sits inside the song.

    Tell us how you approach learning or teaching songs.
    What do you notice, break down, strip back, or question?
    We’d love to hear it.

    I Cain't Say No (Oklahoma) analysed by FlyNorthTheatricals https://www.tiktok.com/@flynorththeatricals/video/7566630322780081439

    Remember to like and subscribe for more insightful episodes. Leave a comment below on what inspired you the most! 👇

    You can find out about our Teacher Accreditation for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders and start your own journey here 
    https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

    We've also got this ↓ 

    For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson. 
    Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/
     
    If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort26. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme 

    Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating 
    Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251 
    Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB  
     
    Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS 
     
    Find us - follow us on the socials! 
    🐦 Twitter - https://twitter.com/Vocalprocess   
    📸 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/vocalprocess  
    📖 Facebook - https://www.face

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About This Is A Voice

Voice experts and bestselling authors Dr Gillyanne Kayes and Jeremy Fisher have been chatting about voice for more than 20 years - this time they've switched the microphone on. Vocal technique? check. Musicals? check. The weird things you can do with your voice? check. Includes AMA on voice, singing, speaking, performance techniques, voice exercises and so much more.
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