Cybersecurity has built its learning model around breaches, but as Wendy Nather explains, the real value lies in the incidents that almost happened. In this CYBR.SEC.CAST episode with hosts Michael Farnum and Sam Van Ryder, she makes the case for shifting focus to near-misses: the attacks stopped by a single decision, control, or moment of awareness. These unseen saves reveal how defenses actually work in real time, yet they rarely get shared due to trust, legal, and cultural barriers. Until the industry starts capturing and learning from these quieter wins, it will continue optimizing for failure instead of understanding success.
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The Security Poverty Line: https://www.scrut.io/post/risk-grustlers-ep-20-the-security-poverty-line
1Password talks and expo activity during RSAC 2026: https://1password.com/blog/rsa-2026-leading-the-way-to-secure-agentic-ai
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EPISODE 66 Timestamps:
00:00 – 01:30 – Intro, guest setup, and Wendy Nather background
01:30 – 07:00 – CyberSecCon announcements and community initiatives
07:00 – 09:30 – Wendy’s early career: liberal arts → sysadmin → Switzerland
09:30 – 12:30 – Transition into cybersecurity and global security leadership
12:30 – 15:30 – Analyst career, Duo Security, Cisco, and 1Password
15:30 – 18:30 – Career philosophy: ditching the ladder, focusing on impact
18:30 – 22:00 – Current role: advising, speaking, training, and strategy work
22:00 – 25:30 – RSA talk intro: “Less Blood, More Bits” concept
25:30 – 31:00 – The power of near-miss stories and why they matter
31:00 – 36:00 – Real-world near-miss examples and lessons learned
36:00 – 41:00 – Threat intelligence sharing challenges and trust barriers
41:00 – 45:00 – ISACs vs. informal “steak and ale” intelligence sharing
45:00 – 49:00 – Why scaling trust and sharing remains unsolved
49:00 – End – Wrap-up and closing thoughts
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