This conversation I have with my friend Laurie Shopland opened with a prayer, and what surfaced in that prayer set the tone for everything that followed. Laurie's story includes a stranger who walked up to her husband in a church lobby one Sunday, told him he was actually there to talk to her, and delivered a word so specific that she's read it at least once a week ever since. In this conversation, we trace how she got from ritual religion and real anger at God... to 4:30am morning prayer with her husband, a three-year TED Talk journey through two rejections, and what it looks like when God starts inviting you further out than feels financially safe.Laurie Shopland is a coach and speaker from Canada who works at the intersection of emotional wellbeing, identity, and truth-telling. She recently gave a TEDx Talk on truth-telling and the misuse of non-disclosure agreements, and she's on a path of what she describes as being a lighthouse to the nation.Here's what we explore:▪️ Why we discount what God says to us through other people... even when it's exactly right▪️ Laurie's faith story: from a denomination of ritual (not relationship), through loss and anger at God, to a Holy Spirit moment she didn't go looking for▪️ What secular corporate coaching looks like when you know every moment of peace is the Holy Spirit▪️ The fear underneath the invitation to bring God more explicitly into her work, and the financial scarcity sitting under that▪️ Three years and two rejections: the TED Talk journey and why the timing couldn't have been any earlier▪️ Learning to stop softening what you hear from God and just stand in it▪️ A vision of a clock and a little toy, and why those two images have become her daily anchorChapters:00:00 Intro and Introducing Laurie Shopland02:06 Opening Prayer03:32 The Vision Story: When God Confirmed Himself Through a Stranger09:41 Laurie's Faith Story: From Ritual Religion and Anger to a Holy Spirit Encounter13:58 Helping People Find Peace in Corporate Settings Without Saying "God"17:15 The Fear of Going Further With God-Language at Work20:41 Three Years, Two Rejections, and the Perfect Timing of a TED Talk27:20 What Daily Listening to God Actually Looks Like31:05 Learning to Speak With Authority About What You Hear From God40:50 The Clock and the Stillness: Trusting God's TimingIf something in this conversation landed for you, I'd just love for you to sit with it... and notice what God might want you to receive from it.🔗 Check out Laurie's work - https://shoplandcoaching.com/🔗 See Laurie's TEDx Talk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Ftcp5WOf4🔗 Join The Receive Academy - https://receiveacademy.com/🔗 Sign up for the next Hearing God Challenge - https://hearinggodchallenge.com/