The Dev Interrupted Podcast is the premier podcast made exclusively for software engineering leaders. Hosts Dan Lines, Conor Bronsdon, and Ben Lloyd Pearson inv...
Are Only 20% of Devs Happy? | Stack Overflow’s Erin Yepis
This week, Dev Interrupted dives into the 2024 Stack Overflow Developer Survey, revealing a surprising statistic: only 1 in 5 developers are happy in their jobs. Stack Overflow's Senior Analyst of Market Research and Insights, Erin Yepis, joins host Ben Lloyd Pearson to discuss the survey's findings and explore the reasons behind this widespread dissatisfaction. From salary woes and workplace settings to the ever-present burden of technical debt, they dissect the factors impacting developer happiness.Later, Dan Lines offers his perspective, drawing on LinearB's data to pinpoint three key challenges to developer satisfaction. He also shares valuable strategies for tackling technical debt, a growing concern as more companies transform into software-driven businesses.Show Notes:2025 Engineering Benchmarks Insights WebinarRefactoring x Dev Interrupted Survey2024 Stack Overflow Developer SurveyCheck out Erin’s blogSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever
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Making Sense of Agentic AI | ThoughtWorks Birgitta Boeckeler
There’s AI agents. There’s AI tooling. Do either drive business impact or are they just more things your dev team is supposed to stay on top of?Birgitta Boeckeler, Global Lead for AI Assisted Software Delivery at ThoughtWorks, joins the show to discuss the practical applications of AI in software delivery. She shares her research on AI agents, highlights areas where AI hasn't lived up to the hype, and offers concrete examples of useful AI tools for development teams.Dan Lines then joins the conversation to provide his perspective on how engineering leaders can leverage these insights to effectively implement AI within their own teams. He also discusses LinearB's efforts in helping software teams measure the business impact of AI.Show Notes:2025 Engineering Benchmarks Insights WebinarRefactoring x Dev Interrupted SurveyBirgitta’s LinkedInBirgitta’s websiteMartin Fowler MemosSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever
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Open Source Meets AI | Red Hat's Scott McCarty
Open source has transformed software development, but can it do the same for AI?In this episode of Dev Interrupted, Conor Bronsdon talks with Scott McCarty, Senior Principal Product Manager at Red Hat, about the potential of open source AI to revolutionize enterprise DevOps. They discuss the challenges and opportunities of open source AI, including licensing, security, and the need for community-driven development. McCarty argues that open source AI is crucial for building trust and ensuring that AI benefits everyone, not just a select few.Show Notes:2025 Engineering Benchmarks Insights WebinarRefactoring x Dev Interrupted SurveyScott’s LinkedInSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever
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Back to First Principles | Productiv CTO Ashish Aggarwal
Everyone knows the era of growth at all costs is over, but where does that leave us? And specifically, where does that leave founders? The answer is straightforward: founders have to start thinking like business people. This week, Conor Bronsdon interviews Ashish Aggarwal, founder and CTO of Productive and an active investor in over 30 companies.Ashish shares his insights on how startups are adapting to the new “efficient growth” environment, why this paradigm shift is an opportunity for founders, and how the pressures of efficiency have created incentives for companies to move towards geo-distributed teams instead of co-located teams.Show Notes:Refactoring x Dev Interrupted SurveyAshish’s LinkedIn2024 State of SaaS Consolidation ReportSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever
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The Real Measure of Success in Platform Engineering | MassDriver CEO Cory O'Daniel
It’s time we recognize the idea of a ‘Golden Path’ is unrealistic.In this episode of Dev Interrupted, host Dan Lines is joined by Cory O'Daniel, CEO of MassDriver, to discuss Cory’s provocative article 'DevOps is Bullshit'. They cover the pitfalls of DevOps, the evolution of cloud operations and whether or not platform engineering is the solution the industry needs .Cory shares insights on why many organizations struggle with DevOps implementation, the impact of cloud technology on traditional operations, and how internal developer platforms are reshaping the industry.Topics:01:03 Where has DevOps gone wrong?04:19 Have we changed or does DevOps mean something different?11:51 Platform engineering in 202420:10 How can platform engineering leaders measure success?26:40 Why are new hires being put in charge of DevOps?29:53 Getting buy in for a better platform engineering experience39:13 Are internal developer platforms a fad? Show Notes:Refactoring x Dev Interrupted SurveyCory O'DanielMassdriver - Standardize Infrastructure | Enhance Developer Experience | Enable Self-ServiceCory O’Daniel k8s/acc (@coryodaniel) / XDevOps is BullshitBridging Cloud Talent GapSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever
The Dev Interrupted Podcast is the premier podcast made exclusively for software engineering leaders. Hosts Dan Lines, Conor Bronsdon, and Ben Lloyd Pearson invite expert guests from around the world to explore strategy and day-to-day topics ranging from dev team metrics to accelerating delivery. Join us weekly for new episodes.
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